Rosebowl Say Ole Miss has A Player That Lied to NCAA

[WSOPdawg]

OM is looking at a minimum penalty of 30 schollys over 3 years- thats the absolute minimum.

It may be 40-45 over 3 with what is coming out. But either way- its happening by next Summer.

What's cool is how we've moved from the 15-20 schollie reduction range (remember when TCUN swore up and down it was 9 over 3 ?) to a minimum of 30 over 3 to (please sweet baby Jesus) 40-45 over 3. That, my fellow Bulldog friends, would be glorious!!!

[Dawg-gone-dawgs]

Realistically, will they see any bowl bans, show causes, etc. What are the odds?

I think there will be some people (State fans) really disappointed at the end of this.

[WSOPdawg]

I am wondering if they get another NOA if repeat violator status is in play though. That would be bad.

Todd, I think that's a very real possibility, especially given the fact that the NCAA has apparently caught TCUN in numerous lies trying to cover up cheating violations since the 1st NOA was delivered that was based on "exemplary cooperation" (what a joke of a term).

[Thick]

I think there will be some people (State fans) really disappointed at the end of this.

Not a chance. No way in hell does the NCAA waste 3 plus years to slap them on the wrist. There will be show cause (at least 3) for current staff members, and OM AD is preparing for 30 plus on scholly reductions and a 2 year bowl ban. The reason Bjork and Freeze have not canned anybody is because their actions were known and at times directed by Freeze.

[starkvegasdawg]

I think there will be some people (State fans) really disappointed at the end of this.

If this is true then the members of this board need to form Elite Recruiting, LLC. There has to be enough people here that can scrounge up enough coeds willing to get on their knees a few times a year to help entice recruits to come here. Even make it a competition among the girls. If the 5 star you go down on ends up signing you win free tuition for a semester. If it's a 4 star you win free books for a semester. Get the #1 player at a position and it's free tuition and books for a year.

[thf24]

The reason Bjork and Freeze have not canned anybody is because their actions were known and at times directed by Freeze.

That and they've already claimed innocence and been caught lying about it. No one from Bjork down has anything to gain from coming clean at this point.

[Liverpooldawg]

Todd, I think that's a very real possibility, especially given the fact that the NCAA has apparently caught TCUN in numerous lies trying to cover up cheating violations since the 1st NOA was delivered that was based on "exemplary cooperation" (what a joke of a term).

You have to already be on probation for that.

[BeardoMSU]

If this is true then the members of this board need to form Elite Recruiting, LLC. There has to be enough people here that can scrounge up enough coeds willing to get on their knees a few times a year to help entice recruits to come here. Even make it a competition among the girls. If the 5 star you go down on ends up signing you win free tuition for a semester. If it's a 4 star you win free books for a semester. Get the #1 player at a position and it's free tuition and books for a year.

Easy. State fans just need to go all in on conceiving future hot daughters. Give all the sons away for adoption. This would be a Spartan-esque approach to reproduction that would set us up for 1000 years.***

[WSOPdawg]

You have to already be on probation for that.

Normally, in a rational world I would agree. But TCUN's actions have been nothing but irrational (to a degree arguably unimaginable by the NCAA).

Because the NCAA is unable to bring this investigation to a close due to continuously turning over new violations, I'm not sure ALREADY being on probation means what we think it means in the traditional, rational sense.

[Liverpooldawg]

Easy. State fans just need to go all in on conceiving future hot daughters. Give all the sons away for adoption. This would be a Spartan-esque approach to reproduction that would set us up for 1000 years.***

That's not really Spartan-esque, especially for the boys, but it might work.****

[MadDawg]

If this is true then the members of this board need to form Elite Recruiting, LLC. There has to be enough people here that can scrounge up enough coeds willing to get on their knees a few times a year to help entice recruits to come here. Even make it a competition among the girls. If the 5 star you go down on ends up signing you win free tuition for a semester. If it's a 4 star you win free books for a semester. Get the #1 player at a position and it's free tuition and books for a year.

Ok, but can't we come up with our own tactics instead of just copying the bears??

[Liverpooldawg]

Normally, in a rational world I would agree. But TCUN's actions have been nothing but irrational (to a degree arguably unimaginable by the NCAA).

Because the NCAA is unable to bring this investigation to a close due to continuously turning over new violations, I'm not sure ALREADY being on probation means what we think it means in the traditional, rational sense.

What they need to do is just go ahead and drop some kind of hammer. That will get them under the repeat offender clause. Do you believe that UM will quit what they are doing once it happens?

[BeardoMSU]

That's not really Spartan-esque, especially for the boys, but it might work.****

Well, there aren't many cliffs in Starkville where the "undesirables" could be tossed from, Pool.***

[msudawglb]

I am wondering if they get another NOA if repeat violator status is in play though. That would be bad.

see, that's what I'm thinking is going on here. I think the NCAA delivered their first NOA a week or so before signing day to see how Mississippi would handle it. Would they tell the recruits before signing day or hide the facts? Would they still sign all of the kids that are verbally committed or cut ties with those who they cheated to get? I think after the Tunsil draft night fiasco the NCAA went out to question all of those 2016 4* and 5* commitments that signed. I think the NCAA is loading up to hammer Mississippi more based on how they handled the most recent commits because they cheated after being delivered a NOA.

[Liverpooldawg]

Well, there aren't many cliffs in Starkville where the "undesirables" could be tossed from, Pool.***

Not too many boys would survive Navy Seal style training at age 7 either!*****

[MadDawg]

I think there will be some people (State fans) really disappointed at the end of this.

I think the more likely scenario is that both fanbases aren't going to be too thrilled at the end of this. As with most things, reality lies somewhere in the middle. It's not going to be as bad as we want it to be, but it's certainly not the "nothing to see here, carry on" scenario the bears have been promoting.

[starkvegasdawg]

Ok, but can't we come up with our own tactics instead of just copying the bears??

That's where the free tuition and books come in. Tsun just uses em up til their jaws give out and tosses them away. We'll take care of them by providing the chance to get a degree. We take care of our MSU family.

[BossDawg]

Not a chance. No way in hell does the NCAA waste 3 plus years to slap them on the wrist.

Oh no no....haven't you heard? I have some UM buddies that are "REALLY connected" and they have assured me this is all one big witch hunt because the NCAA just can't let things go. The NCAA hates to see them winning and they're digging and digging trying to find ANYTHING, but they haven't found one violation yet. Not one single thing. Didn't you know?

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[Liverpooldawg]

Oh no no....haven't you heard? I have some UM buddies that are "REALLY connected" and they have assured me this is all one big witch hunt because the NCAA just can't let things go. The NCAA hates to see them winning and they're digging and digging trying to find ANYTHING, but they haven't found one violation yet. Not one single thing. Didn't you know?

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I had one tell me that the other night too. I asked him if he had seen the NOA. He said it was all about women's basketball, track, and Houston Nutt.

[starkvegasdawg]

I had one tell me that the other night too. I asked him if he had seen the NOA. He said it was all about women's basketball, track, and Houston Nutt.

He must not know mistakes were made.