DAN COACHING QBS

[Reason2succeed]

I give guys credit for winning bowl games because the alternative is losing them. If he was losing bowl games after good season we be complaining about that but for the most part Mullen is able to get his team up one last time to put an exclamation on the season.

I think that the first season is kind of a wash because it was with the deplorable talent left by Croom. The other season that I kind of see a mulligan was the year we started against Oklahoma State and Tyler Russell and a starting safety got hurt in the same game. Most teams fall apart in that situation and do not recover but Mullen was able to piece together another bowl team.

I agree that we could recruit better at OL but I trust that you're not saying anything that Mullen doesn't know. When it becomes time I'm sure that as a professional he will send Hevesy packing if he needs to. Until then you've got to assume that Hev is giving Mullen exactly what he wants and is meeting expectations.

Don't forget that lots of OL don't like spread offenses. The only reason why OM is pulling the OL they are is because they are throwing major $ around. If not no OL would be signing up for playing for a team that had all that talent and the #1 LT in the nation and still couldn't run the ball consistently up the middle. Once OM is busted you may see and uptick in our in State OL recruiting. Maybe. If not Mullen will deal with it.

[QuadrupleOption]

Now, take out the Greatest "LEADER" quarterback out of that percentage and what is his winning percentage?

That's the stupidest ****ing thing I've ever read.

"Oh yeah, well if Mullen hadn't won all those games with players he recruited then he'd have a losing record!!!!!!"

No shit?

[tireddawg]

To add, saban was a 7 win coach at the other msu prior to getting the Lsu job

He won 9 his last year, but I get your point.

[Jack Lambert]

I don't know if a NFL team will pay 4 million for a QB coach and he needs to get to another level before he gets a head coaching job.

[Todd4State]

I give guys credit for winning bowl games because the alternative is losing them. If he was losing bowl games after good season we be complaining about that but for the most part Mullen is able to get his team up one last time to put an exclamation on the season.

I think that the first season is kind of a wash because it was with the deplorable talent left by Croom. The other season that I kind of see a mulligan was the year we started against Oklahoma State and Tyler Russell and a starting safety got hurt in the same game. Most teams fall apart in that situation and do not recover but Mullen was able to piece together another bowl team.

I agree that we could recruit better at OL but I trust that you're not saying anything that Mullen doesn't know. When it becomes time I'm sure that as a professional he will send Hevesy packing if he needs to. Until then you've got to assume that Hev is giving Mullen exactly what he wants and is meeting expectations.

Don't forget that lots of OL don't like spread offenses. The only reason why OM is pulling the OL they are is because they are throwing major $ around. If not no OL would be signing up for playing for a team that had all that talent and the #1 LT in the nation and still couldn't run the ball consistently up the middle. Once OM is busted you may see and uptick in our in State OL recruiting. Maybe. If not Mullen will deal with it.

And yet on my candidates I listed you degrade their wins. Seems fair.

[msbulldog]

Reason2Succeed- you are adding in bowl wins- I'm talking regular season. And his 1st season does count by the way

Nobody is saying he hasn't done a good job. But we have only seriously challenged for the West title once in 7 years. And that is not going to change until we recruit better upfront. State and Vandy are the only 2 SEC teams without a 4-star OL recruit on their rosters in 2016. OL recruiting has held us back the last few seasons with nothing pointing to that problem being rectified.

Martinas Rankin being the #1 JUCO prospect would at least count for 4 stars.

[Dawg61]

I'm not 34. I manage a Taco Bell for Taco Tuohy

As to your question- I'm not for running anybody off except Hevesy. But I dont forget our HC begging for the Georgia job, talking contract with Miami until Mark Richt snaked him, and talking contract with Maryland and then getting cold feet. Dan Mullen isnt the only coach that can win here.

Nobody is going to pay Dan what we pay him. He realizes that now. Time to get over him flirting with other schools.

[mic]

Also it's time for the AD to TELL CDM to stop courting other jobs every year..

[lamont]

Nobody is going to pay Dan what we pay him. He realizes that now. Time to get over him flirting with other schools.

Only thing Mullen realizes now is how fast he got dropped by Miami when Richt became available

[fishwater99]

I'm not 34. I manage a Taco Bell for Taco Tuohy

As to your question- I'm not for running anybody off except Hevesy. But I dont forget our HC begging for the Georgia job, talking contract with Miami until Mark Richt snaked him, and talking contract with Maryland and then getting cold feet. Dan Mullen isnt the only coach that can win here.

THIS...

[Homedawg]

Now, take out the Greatest "LEADER" quarterback out of that percentage and what is his winning percentage?

Huh? So those years don't count? That's like saying, what would Phil jackson's winning percentage be without Jordan w the Bulls and Shaq and Kobe w the Lakers. Hell at keast Dan recruited dak, Jackson was handed all of his studs.

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

Miss State 1991-2016 has been totally different than before Jackie. It's a new age and we have SEC money. We were one of the bottom 20% moneywise in the 80's- now we are in the top 50% of college football in money and facilities. We pay top 25% to a HC. Its no more woe is us

Our last 25 years shows we can be a force in the SEC and we have had 2 of our top coaches in school history

But every team gets SEC money and most of the larger schools have alumni bases that double or triple ours. That means they have more donations and MORE MONEY. Hell, just look at the dependencies of the recruiting budgets across the SEC.

[confucius say]

THIS...

Agreed. But we know he can, and win at levels never before seen at our school (modern era) over a length of time. Why screw with that?

[Todd4State]

Agreed. But we know he can, and win at levels never before seen at our school (modern era) over a length of time. Why screw with that?

Because if the next guy is unsuccessful we can always fire the next guy until we find someone that can succeed. Getting rid of Dan wouldn't kill our program. Just like getting rid of Polk didn't kill the baseball program.

[JDog13]

How can you a holes type that much?

[Dawg61]

Only thing Mullen realizes now is how fast he got dropped by Miami when Richt became available

You trying to run him off has gotten old

[Reason2succeed]

How can you a holes type that much?

I had the benefit of a great Mississippi State education among my other scholastic achievements. Hahahaha!

(And being educated and disciplined doesn't make me an a hole).

The idea that we can just cycle through coaches until we find a real winner is real dumb and won't work. It will show that we have an unrealistic fanbase and administration that top candidates would not be attracted to. Plus, during all those experimental years we would have to wait 3/4 years for that coach to get his players in to see if he is any good.

Go ask Tennessee how that worked out for them. Yes, Fulmer had slumped but they haven't been right since they dumped him. Dooley and Kiffin were absolute train wrecks and the jury is still out on Butch Jones. And Tennessee has way more money, fans and more tradition that we do.

[JDog13]

I had the benefit of a great Mississippi State education among my other scholastic achievements. Hahahaha!

(And being educated and disciplined doesn't make me an a hole).

The idea that we can just cycle through coaches until we find a real winner is real dumb and won't work. It will show that we have an unrealistic fanbase and administration that top candidates would not be attracted to. Plus, during all those experimental years we would have to wait 3/4 years for that coach to get his players in to see if he is any good.

Go ask Tennessee how that worked out for them. Yes, Fulmer had slumped but they haven't been right since they dumped him. Dooley and Kiffin were absolute train wrecks and the jury is still out on Butch Jones. And Tennessee has way more money, fans and more tradition that we do.

Oh, my bad. I wasn't talking to you.

[Todd4State]

I had the benefit of a great Mississippi State education among my other scholastic achievements. Hahahaha!

(And being educated and disciplined doesn't make me an a hole).

The idea that we can just cycle through coaches until we find a real winner is real dumb and won't work. It will show that we have an unrealistic fanbase and administration that top candidates would not be attracted to. Plus, during all those experimental years we would have to wait 3/4 years for that coach to get his players in to see if he is any good.

Go ask Tennessee how that worked out for them. Yes, Fulmer had slumped but they haven't been right since they dumped him. Dooley and Kiffin were absolute train wrecks and the jury is still out on Butch Jones. And Tennessee has way more money, fans and more tradition that we do.

Obviously the intent is to hire someone that will win. Not making a decision because someone else might not work leads to stagnation and never reaching your potential. You're operating under the assumption that Dan is the absolute best we could do and there's no truth in that.

People said the same thing about Jackie at one time. And yet he left, we were on probation AND hired an unsuccessful head coach and our program is still in good shape overall.

There are a lot of talented coaches that would be happy to come here get paid millions and put up with our "unrealistic expectations" which should be elevated to championship level after 2014. Not let's just be happy with 8 wins and the Belk Bowl.

[Dawgcentral]

I think we're going to see many head coaching changes in the SEC in the next 2-3 years. Miles could be gone just for not winning the west this year. Saban could leave Bama by retiring, or simply due to the fact that lunatic Bama fans think they should win the NT every year. Smart has 5 years maybe, but if he averages 9-10 wins a years he's no better than Richt. Malzahn is flopping. Freeze could be shown a show cause. Think the ruffled frat boy can win at S.C.?

JWS was the Dean of SEC coaches at 10 years. This is year 8 for Mullen.

All I can say is Stricklin better have his short list updated and maintain some good contacts around the country. Dan says he likes Starkville since his kids were born there, but many of us have moved our kids for a better opportunity. There are a few programs around the country that would pay 5M for Dan if he could get us to Atlanta.