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Originally Posted by
Liverpooldawg
Nope DUI is a serious crime. Driving while drunk doesn't only affect you, it has the potential to kill others. I wouldn't draft him now if I was a GM.
If you were a GM you wouldn't be able to field a team. Good Lord, it's a mistake, one that a lot of people make. Thank God nobody was hurt, and thank God the NFL isn't full of people who won't take a guy because he made ONE MISTAKE.
Seriously, if you were the GM of my team, I'd find another team to pull for.
Last edited by blacklistedbully; 03-12-2016 at 11:28 PM.
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Originally Posted by
Liverpooldawg
I wouldn't draft him now if I was a GM.
It must be challenging for you to continuously type increasingly stupid posts. Just when I think you've peaked you reach back and go a little more. You're talented.
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Originally Posted by
BoomBoom
assuming he actually was drunk. last time i drove back to the Cotton District at 1am on a weekend, i got pulled over for touching the line on my right as i made a hard right turn off old 182. then was told i blew a .07 when all i'd had was 2 Coors Lights. time before that i was pulled over for no seat belt. still got the ticket after i blew solid. that area is worse than Gordo or Reform at that time of night on a weekend.
This is not uncommon with SPD, sadly, and not just in the CD.
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Originally Posted by
Dawg61
It must be challenging for you to continuously type increasingly stupid posts. Just when I think you've peaked you reach back and go a little more. You're talented.
Hate to say I agree with you, but...
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Junior Member
Thanks for the support 61. There are ways to make a point without endangering a fine young mans future. I really do applaud law enforcement fo all they do, but sometimes you have to look at the total picture and make a call that even though it might not be completely legal, it is the right call. Btw. Any chance that Barney has ties to AJ Browns family?? Now that's one that should have a hard time driving in Starkville
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Originally Posted by
blacklistedbully
If you were a GM you wouldn't be able to field a team. Good Lord, it's a mistake, one that a lot of people make. Thank God nobody was hurt, and thank God the NFL isn't full of people who won't take a guy because he made ONE MISTAKE.
Seriously, if you were the GM of my team, I'd find another team to pull for.
And THAT says it all about the NFL these days. What if he had hit your kid last night? Would you still say it was only a mistake?
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First let me say what an idiot for drinking and driving. Now he needs to be on the phone and get Mitchell Creel out of Greenville, go to court and beat it. Mitchell's unreal at beating DUI's. That will at least keep it off his record. Maybe he can tell the GM's see, I wasn't guilty.
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For those of you talking about GM's no longer looking upon Dak in good graces, remember, this is the same league that continues to employ Greg Hardy... And Dak is an Apple to his Orange.
Actually, Dak isn't even a food group**
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
The SPD is in no way to blame. They just did their job. Dakota has to be smarter and not give Turtle any nights off now that he is NFL-bound. Its a mistake he will hopefully learn from
We hope that's the case. I'm sure it is most of the time.
But I sat on a jury that found a DUI arrest not guilty because of the cop's approach. First, the cop was hanging out watching folks leaving a bar. Sounds OK but it's not an approved police practice. Next, he says he pulled the guy over for weaving "between the lines". The video showed the car move a little from side to side over a stretch but never got near the center line or the side line. Wasn't weaving.
Then after he pulled the guy over and started on the field sobriety tests, the guy did fine. I think the guy tested slightly over the limit back at the station, but as a jury we couldn't see justification for ever pulling the guy over in the first place.
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Some of you are having real trouble separating the severity and seriousness of a DUI, from draft status.
1. DUIs are serious and inexcusable. End of story. SPD did their job. Period.
2. Does this mean Dak is a bad person, has a problem, and not capable of running a football team? Absolutely not.
3. Does this mean Dak's draft status will fall? It certainly won't help, but scouts and coaches know Dak better than us. To them, it just may be an unfortunate incident but not indicative of the player's character.
4. Does this make him riskier? Yes. Hard to say how much.
Point, any team making a decision off of this DUI is behind because the point is to know the player. You make decision off of knowing the player. Not by politics
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How much more story do you really need to know?
"The QB and the receiver weren't on the same page there, but hey its only week eleven". (Jack Cristil)
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All you bleeding hearts. On here. He didn't hit or kill anyone. Once stopped the SPD could have said, hey pal. We are going to get you home this one time. If this happens again you are toast!! Instead, I am sure they treated him as if he had killed someone. Common sense and handling things in a rational way have left our society. I am confident now that some of you would actually vote for Hilary or Bernie?? If you are in that contingent then you need way more help than Dak
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Originally Posted by
MafiaDawg
But he didn't
By the Grace of God.
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He's a young un who made a mistake. The NFL is full of people who do way worse than get dui's. Heck my brother in law works for Baldwin County Sherrifs dept and he's gotten more than one NFL player for dui. I don't drink and wished that nobody would get in a car after they drank. I don't condone what he did and there will be consequences for him but This is not a pattern of behavior for Dak and until he proves me wrong I'm in his corner.
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Originally Posted by
Liverpooldawg
And THAT says it all about the NFL these days. What if he had hit your kid last night? Would you still say it was only a mistake?
Your having trouble hashing this out. DUI is terrible but doesn't mean you are a bad guy. It only means you made a mistake.
The result of Dak hitting or not hitting someone while driving under the influence, has nothing to do with what type of person he is.
Let me ask this, would you not draft someone that hit someone while texting and driving? What's the difference? Texting and driving is dumb but isn't indicative of the character, leadership, and intelligence of the person. It's just a dumb, unacceptable mistake.
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Originally Posted by
DancingRabbit
We hope that's the case. I'm sure it is most of the time.
But I sat on a jury that found a DUI arrest not guilty because of the cop's approach. First, the cop was hanging out watching folks leaving a bar. Sounds OK but it's not an approved police practice. Next, he says he pulled the guy over for weaving "between the lines". The video showed the car move a little from side to side over a stretch but never got near the center line or the side line. Wasn't weaving.
Then after he pulled the guy over and started on the field sobriety tests, the guy did fine. I think the guy tested slightly over the limit back at the station, but as a jury we couldn't see justification for ever pulling the guy over in the first place.
So YOU let a guy that was legally over the limit get away scot free? WOW.
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Originally Posted by
Liverpooldawg
So YOU let a guy that was legally over the limit get away scot free? WOW.
How bout the guys we entrust to enforce the law actually be responsible to know the law, and follow the law themselves..
I know, crazy concept**
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Your having trouble hashing this out. DUI is terrible but doing mean you are a bad guy. It only means you made a mistake.
The result has of Dak hitting or not hitting someone while driving under the influence, has nothing to do with what type of person he is.
Let me ask this, would you not draft someone that hit someone while texting and driving? What's the difference? Texting and driving is dumb but isn't indicative of the character, leadership, and intelligence of the person. It's just a dumb, unacceptable mistake.
There is no difference. It's a comment on judgement and decision making. It's also a BIG comment on character. It's going to hurt Dak BAD because those things were Dak's biggest pluses in the draft. Somebody will still draft him, but it cost him some money, as it should. He is very lucky it didn't cost him or worse, someone else, a lot more. Stop making excuses like the Rebs do.
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Originally Posted by
Liverpooldawg
And THAT says it all about the NFL these days. What if he had hit your kid last night? Would you still say it was only a mistake?
If Dak had hit and killed my child, I'd be heart-broken. But knowing what kind of young man Dak has shown himself to be, I'd still call it a mistake. A tragic mistake, but a mistake nonetheless.
And I'd bet everything I own that young man would be as torn up about it as I would. I'd mourn my child and I'd mourn for Dak as well, knowing he, too,would have to live with the consequences of his actions.
Sometimes good people make bad decisions, and sometimes those bad decisions end in tragedy. That doesn't make them bad people.
You are vastly overreacting and are coming across as an intolerant priss with her panties in a wad. For all the tremendous good Dak has done, for all the fine examples he has set in his 4 years at MSU, you are ready to throw him under the bus for one mistake.
I'm quite sure I'd take Dak every day of the week and twice on Sundays over you for the Model Citizen award.
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