NOA Part Duex'

[Political Hack]

A little birdie told me that Ole Miss will receive a 2nd Notice of Allegations (NOA) in roughly 6-8 weeks, placing the time frame sometime near the end of March or during the month of April. This comes from someone I trust that did not attend State or Ole Miss, but has a lot of connections in collegiate sports. I don't know how he knew the timeline, but he seemed very confident about it.

I found this a little surprising because I was under the assumption that the 2nd investigation is ongoing. That would be one of only two reasons to split the letters. The other reason to split the letters/sanctions??? I've been told, allegedly, the 2nd NOA is completely focused on issues that took place after June 2013. That is a critical date as the NCAA changed their rules at this time about how hard they can pursue head coaches for violations that occur during their tenure. In other words, based on the latest skuttle butt, the NCAA could very easily be looking to implicate Hugh Freeze for recruiting violations. The first letter will be a straight left jab, the second will be a Mike Tyson upper cut. I was told that academic issues and recruiting violations will be a part of the 2nd NOA as well, which seems a little odd to me because I thought the academic fraud issue was all prior to 2013. If the NCAA finds academic fraud that spans two head coaches, multiple administrators, and lasted several years, there is zero doubt in my personal opinion that a Loss of Institutional Control (LOIC) finding will be levied. Further, I have been told that the NCAA has interviewed kids that signed with Ole Miss this year. If that's true, the NCAA investigation spans nearly a decade. Nothing, I repeat NOTHING, about this investigation is minor. Academic fraud and recruiting violations that implicate multiple sports staffs, spanning nearly a decade, that have already resulted in an 8-year show cause for a former Associate Athletics Director is horrible news.

Gentlemen, grab your popcorn. Should make for an interesting offseason.

[JDog13]

If you're reading this, you're the resistance.

[Behrdawg]

But Hugh is clean... And he scored high on his ACT, too**

[AlmostPositive]

Perfect storm for Ole Miss. The NCAA needs an image makeover and Ole Miss is the perfect target. It will be hammer time.

For your added viewing pleasure, by the time they start recovering from sanctions, Ole Miss will be facing more and more calls for a name change. "Ole Miss" is probably in its last decade. Good luck, con artists formerly known as R*b*ls.

[Statecoachingblows**]

Wait a minute...good news on a Monday morning?? The end is near!

[starkvegasdawg]

I hope they hammer Hugh so bad he chips a tooth when he sees his show cause.

[Dawgology]

I want to believe this. I hope your source is correct...but when I see info filtering out that hints at some of the stuff we have been talking about or told will be included in this NOA are not, in fact, in it but will be saved for later worries me. Maybe it will all come out in the wash but usually when you start hearing a story change its not a good sign. Hope I'm wrong.

[thf24]

Is there any precedent saying how soon after that sanctions will be levied? I think I saw during the basketball game Saturday that Louisville will receive a NOA for their investigation in June, but isn't expected to receive sanctions until spring of next year.

[starkvegasdawg]

I'm not sure the story has changed. I was always under the impression this initial NOA was just the appetizer and would not amount to a whole lot but the second one was the one that was going to be the prison shower raping of the program. The first was just going to be some light salad tossing.

[starkvegasdawg]

Is there any precedent saying how soon after that sanctions will be levied? I think I saw during the basketball game Saturday that Louisville will receive a NOA for their investigation in June, but isn't expected to receive sanctions until spring of next year.

I think the school has 90 days from receipt of the NOA to give their official response. After that I am not sure what the timelime is for the NCAA to respond. Assuming they get their second one 4/1 then they would have until 7/1 to respond. After that I am not sure.

[Ralph]

This fits the timeframe of my original thought that NCAA would wait until OM responds to first NOA before sending a second to get them in a catch 22.

[Political Hack]

I want to believe this. I hope your source is correct...but when I see info filtering out that hints at some of the stuff we have been talking about or told will be included in this NOA are not, in fact, in it but will be saved for later worries me. Maybe it will all come out in the wash but usually when you start hearing a story change its not a good sign. Hope I'm wrong.

I don't know what the 1st NOA is about, but it's widely speculated that only 5-10 of the allegations pertain to football. I'm told the 2nd NOA should focus completely on football. So the Bjork mantra, of "it's only our track and WBB teams "mostly"" is going to fly out the window with this one.

I think the first one will be bad regardless. Sanctions across 3 sports is awful. Just letting y'all know that the all popular defense of "it's just our fast kids and women-folk" won't hold water come round two.

[Bucky Dog]

I hope this all happens but the big thing I think everyone wants to hear is the Network set up to pay all of these players, from the coaches to bag men and anything else involved with it. Tell me about the Tunsil inducements and that 2013 class, and this past one as well. I don't want to sound too greedy, because if this all gets them what they deserve, assuming it is proven to be true, then so be it.

[Political Hack]

I think the school has 90 days from receipt of the NOA to give their official response. After that I am not sure what the timelime is for the NCAA to respond. Assuming they get their second one 4/1 then they would have until 7/1 to respond. After that I am not sure.

I think it's telling that the NCAA is having them respond to the first one before sending them them another one. Doesn't seem like they're too happy...

[TrapGame]

This fits the timeframe of my original thought that NCAA would wait until OM responds to first NOA before sending a second to get them in a catch 22.

Very interesting.

Looks like UNM has their asses in a sling.

[defiantdog]

I think it's telling that the NCAA is having them respond to the first one before sending them them another one. Doesn't seem like they're too happy...

The NCAA is expecting OM to conduct self sanctions for the first NOA.

[Ralph]

The way I "hope" this goes is OM responds to first letter by saying we did this and that to correct the issues, then boom another letter covering more recent events and then OM will have a hell of a time defending the 2nd letter. If NCAA does this, it certainly means they've got OM in a choke hold imo.

[Political Hack]

The NCAA is expecting OM to conduct self sanctions for the first NOA.

And if OM claims they have done a complete investigation and "that's it" without addressing the additional allegations, the NCAA will say they weren't forthcoming and hammer them come round 2. It's OM's chance to tell all and impose serious self-sanctions. If they don't, the NCAA has the gun loaded ready for round 2.

The only thing and repeat ONLY thing that has ever given me pause in any of this is not knowing whether or not the NCAA has the stones to play hard ball. The way they're apparently staggering the NOA's is a pretty strong indicator that they are playing hard ball.

[starkvegasdawg]

So where do you put the odds of Bucky getting a show cause?

[Mjoelner34]

From what I can gather, unless one or more special circumstances occur, the statute of limitations on the investigation is 4 years. Remember that the 4 years is dated backwards from when the NOA is delivered. This sets the 4 year date at January 2012. Now, they keep stomping their feet saying that except for the Tunsil vehicle, the other football stuff was minor and occurred under Nutt. Well, Houston Dale Nutt Jr. was not the coach for UNM in January 2012. So, for Nutt to be brought up in the NOA, one or more of those special circumstances had to have occurred under his watch. Those circumstances which can extend the investigation beyond 4 years are: (1) the eligibility of a current student-athlete, (2) a pattern of willful violations that began before the four-year windows but continue into the four-year window or (3) a blatant disregard for certain fundamental rules (recruiting, extra benefits, academics, ethical conduct) or (4) an effort to conceal violations. So UNM, which is it? Are you a ‘willful violator’ causing an extension of the investigation in-turn sending you racing toward a LOIC or is it really Bucky that is dirty and the violations didn't occur until after 2012? I suspect the answer is just simply ‘yes’.