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Thread: New DC Name: Southern Cal LB/recruiting coordinator Peter Sirmon

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    DeShea has more experience. Mullen could have hired him. This is a crappy hire. But I'm not surprised. You can dig all you want but nothing qualifies him to be a DC in the SEC, nothing. I need some of you to find the diamonds in my sewage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PendingTransaction View Post
    DeShea has more experience. Mullen could have hired him. This is a crappy hire. But I'm not surprised. You can dig all you want but nothing qualifies him to be a DC in the SEC, nothing. I need some of you to find the diamonds in my sewage.
    So I'm guessing it's safe to say that you can be counted in the X's and O's camp instead of the recruiter camp***

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Very nice hire that might help us get some West Coast talent. We don't really have anyone else on the staff with that kind of background.

    I'll be interested to see if we run a 4-3 or a 3-4.
    I was wondering the same thing. In that interview he said there running a 34 D. We have the talent to run that. Green could bring hell off the end from an OLB spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoseBrown View Post
    So I'm guessing it's safe to say that you can be counted in the X's and O's camp instead of the recruiter camp***
    I don't see enough to deem this guy some super recruiter. Damn sure don't see anything that says he's a SEC West DC. I'm sure Saban will cancel his victory vacation to start getting prepared for this monster. Of all the coaches in this country, we are the only SEC team to hire a student. Typical Mullen bullshxt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PendingTransaction View Post
    I don't see enough to deem this guy some super recruiter. Damn sure don't see anything that says he's a SEC West DC. I'm sure Saban will cancel his victory vacation to start getting prepared for this monster. Of all the coaches in this country, we are the only SEC team to hire a student. Typical Mullen bullshxt.
    You are like literally in the 1% of fans that I have seen that hate this hire. Most everybody has been at least optimistic with some part of his resume if not very excited about him. Including many who have been researching him. The vast majority of the fan base is on board and the majority has been expressing that they think it's a great to fantastic hire. Part of the battle was won over some of the other candidates in that the majority is on board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PendingTransaction View Post
    I don't see enough to deem this guy some super recruiter. Damn sure don't see anything that says he's a SEC West DC. I'm sure Saban will cancel his victory vacation to start getting prepared for this monster. Of all the coaches in this country, we are the only SEC team to hire a student. Typical Mullen bullshxt.
    I was being..you know, but at least he was part of the number 1 recruiting team last year, top 10 the year before and I've read an excellent recruiter the year at UT. On the other hand, only one game as "X's and o's" guy. But I see your point. That's fine.

    I like him because of his pedigree, quotes I've read about him being very energetic, fiery, smart, great recruiter and good LB coach. The rest I'll trust Mullen on, and evidently Oregon wanted him on their staff at some capacity. He's got a great deal of time, practices and scrimmages to learn Mullen's defense...

    Oh and in all fairness I just saw Saban saying he had to get ready to hit the road running recruiting Thursday...****

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    I have no idea if Coach Hollywood will be great or a flop.

    What I do know is the fear many I spoke to is we would have to settle or take a re-tread.

    On the surface, it's the opposite. Sirmon is from a major P5 school, a recruiting coordinator, young and seemingly energetic. He is used to recruiting elite talent. Not to say he will reel them in at MSU but he brings a different perspective to the rest of the staff.

    Most importantly the pitch he gives to any of the folks we put him on will be one that has worked on 4/5 stars before and most likely due to where he is coming from not the same ole song these guys have been hearing from everyone else. A fresh approach, if you will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PendingTransaction View Post
    I don't see enough to deem this guy some super recruiter.
    Being the Recruiting Coordinator at USC doesn't say anything to you?

    Damn sure don't see anything that says he's a SEC West DC.
    What did you see different from Hopson when you were championing him?

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    Just curious and too damn lazy to look it up. Wondering if Urban Meyer in his HC career ever hired a guy for DC who had never been a DC before..or any other coordinator for that matter. After all, Urban was Dan's mentor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by was21 View Post
    Just curious and too damn lazy to look it up. Wondering if Urban Meyer in his HC career ever hired a guy for DC who had never been a DC before..or any other coordinator for that matter. After all, Urban was Dan's mentor.
    He promoted Dan from QB coach to OC/QB coach. Addiazo had one year prior experience as OC at Indiana like 5 years before stayed OL coach but Myer promoted him after Dan left. He hired Teryl Austin as DC for his final year and he had never been a DC. DJ Durkin was a LB coach under Meyer then Muschamp then promoted to DC by Muschamp. His OC Brandon at Bowling Green had never been an OC. Luke Fickell had been a long time co-DC at OSU but he promoted him to full DC after Ash left for Rutgers
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    My concern is that he has never called a defense before. that was my problem with Coach O, and I'm not going to gloss over it with this hire .

    Look this could be a homerun hire, but nobody knows. He has no track record to go by. Collins and Diaz both had some record to look at it.

    I'm going to give the guy a chance obviously, and I hope everyone else does too.

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    thx for reply...interesting

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    Quote Originally Posted by engie View Post
    Being the Recruiting Coordinator at USC doesn't say anything to you?
    Again, 1 year.

    What did you see different from Hopson when you were championing him?
    If I said anything perceived as "championing" Hopson, bet your life it was in jest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog View Post
    My concern is that he has never called a defense before. that was my problem with Coach O, and I'm not going to gloss over it with this hire .

    Look this could be a homerun hire, but nobody knows. He has no track record to go by. Collins and Diaz both had some record to look at it.

    I'm going to give the guy a chance obviously, and I hope everyone else does too.
    I agree with you. But I'm on board because I think he is a sharp young coach and I think Dan hires well. With him and TBuck I do honestly believe the recruiting will be better. The only game we know he has called is their bowl game in which they lost 23-21 to WI. It's one game and USCw held them to about their averages. Little lower than their scoring avg. They didn't shut them down but it's a bowl game. So I'm just going to be excited until there is a reason to think it was a mistake and get behind him and give him support to hit the ground running for signing day.

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    I like up and coming coaches because their only way to head coaching is to succeed here. Re-treads can fall back on their prior experience and bail for a lateral move if things don't work out. Basically, I like the intensity it brings out in the coaches.
    Death penalty or bust!!!***

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    Look this guy could be the next Dick LeBeau. But no amount of maroon paint can make this hire look good to me. I think Mullen's reputation in the coaching circle, coupled with his desire to sound himself with beta males is the reason he couldn't/didn't hire a DEFENSIVE COORDINATOR!

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    Just relieved it's not Rhoads!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PendingTransaction View Post
    DeShea has more experience. Mullen could have hired him. This is a crappy hire. But I'm not surprised. You can dig all you want but nothing qualifies him to be a DC in the SEC, nothing. I need some of you to find the diamonds in my sewage.
    My favorite was Allen until he wouldn't agree to those stipulations in the contract. If he doesn't want to agree there, then I agree we don't need him. So, "this is a crappy hire" and Sirmon hasn't even been on the field yet? Maybe you should say this is a crappy hire, based upon your opinion, knowledge and thinking as most don't agree with you. On your comment about Deshea, if Mullen thought he was ready to be a DC, I really think that Mullen would make that call. It appears that he does like to promote from within, when he can. Since this is such a crappy hire in your opinion, who would you hire if you were our coach?

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    I don't understand any MSU fan that thinks that this is an obviously crappy hire without at least giving him a shot first.

    The few videos I've Sirmon coaching are pretty good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reason2succeed View Post
    I like up and coming coaches because their only way to head coaching is to succeed here. Re-treads can fall back on their prior experience and bail for a lateral move if things don't work out. Basically, I like the intensity it brings out in the coaches.
    Agree.

    Always hire employees that are passionate & hungry. The SEC West is a grind & we need coaches that are on their way up & not down.

    Both could have the same talent, but the coach on the way up will give that little extra

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