Let's Talk Football Recruiting.....

[defiantdog]

Broussard was close to Boom & committed to Auburn due to their defensive coaches. It was apparently close between MSU & Auburn, so with Boom leaving for USC, we are now back in it.

If we can land Broussard, Moon, & maybe one other surprise to go along with the Golden Triangle 4, this class has a chance to be really good compared to our standards.

Auburn losing a kid from Phenix City is like us losing a kid from Starkville.... it happens, just not that often. Moon, on the other hand, is a possibility.

[ShotgunDawg]

For as much doom & gloom that everyone wants to put on this program we have a very legit shot at a Top 20 class.

Absolutely agree. I think it's just because the hay isn't in the barn & people are scared of OM buying off players due to us losing the Egg Bowl & other teams being able to use Dan wanting leave against us.

We landed the #18 class last year. If we can match it with another top 20 class this year, & the another in 2017, when the state is loaded, then we'll have a solid foundation of depth & quality players at most every position.

IMO, we still need some 5* difference makers though. That's why I want Hill & Akers in next year's class. We need players that are matchups problems for Bama. Even with all 4 stars at most every position, Alabama is still better than you at most every position.

[SDDawg]

For as much doom & gloom that everyone wants to put on this program we have a very legit shot at a Top 20 class.

When Dan showed up at the Conerly event, my doom and gloom went away. We need Dan to put in the work to beat NC State and to land this recruiting class. We have a solid shot at a good season next year, even with the QB transition and loss of big playmakers. There are only a few doom and gloomers that refuse to let go of last weekend and move forward.

[maroonmania]

Absolutely agree. I think it's just because the hay isn't in the barn & people are scared of OM buying off players due to us losing the Egg Bowl & other teams being able to use Dan wanting leave against us.

We landed the #18 class last year. If we can match it with another top 20 class this year, & the another in 2017, when the state is loaded, then we'll have a solid foundation of depth & quality players at most every position.

IMO, we still need some 5* difference makers though. That's why I want Hill & Akers in next year's class. We need players that are matchups problems for Bama. Even with all 4 stars at most every position, Alabama is still better than you at most every position.

No doubt we still have a chance at a really good class but we need a lot of dominoes to fall because none have really fallen yet. Last year, as you put it, we already had WAY more hay in the barn than we do this year. Nothing in the current class committed beyond a 3 star at this point.

[defiantdog]

Absolutely agree. I think it's just because the hay isn't in the barn & people are scared of OM buying off players due to us losing the Egg Bowl & other teams being able to use Dan wanting leave against us.

We landed the #18 class last year. If we can match it with another top 20 class this year, & the another in 2017, when the state is loaded, then we'll have a solid foundation of depth & quality players at most every position.

IMO, we still need some 5* difference makers though. That's why I want Hill & Akers in next year's class. We need players that are matchups problems for Bama. Even with all 4 stars at most every position, Alabama is still better than you at most every position.

We'll be better than Bama at safety, LB (I expect them to lose a few), and potentially QB and / or WR (I believe Bama will lose Kiffin next year, which will limit the use of Ridley. If we land AJ, he'll make a Ridley like impact).

[defiantdog]

No doubt we still have a chance at a really good class but we need a lot of dominoes to fall because none have really fallen yet. Last year, as you put it, we already had WAY more hay in the barn than we do this year. Nothing in the current class committed beyond a 3 star at this point.

2017 recruiting class will be a repeat, if not better than, the 2015 class.

[Todd4State]

No doubt we still have a chance at a really good class but we need a lot of dominoes to fall because none have really fallen yet. Last year, as you put it, we already had WAY more hay in the barn than we do this year. Nothing in the current class committed beyond a 3 star at this point.

Our fans complained because we only had one "splash" and that was Lewis. This year we'll have more of a splash at the end, but our fans are worried because they aren't verbally committed. Dan just needs to mix it up better. And maybe add in an All- Star game hat announcement guy.

[Todd4State]

2017 recruiting class will be a repeat, if not better than, the 2015 class.

I'm pumped about that group. Especially if we get the QB from NOLA and then dominate in state.

[HoopsDawg]

For as much doom & gloom that everyone wants to put on this program we have a very legit shot at a Top 20 class.

Let's see it. Right now it's a poor class. Sign a Top 20 class and blowout NC State and the tide will turn.

[msstate7]

Let's see it. Right now it's a poor class. Sign a Top 20 class and blowout NC State and the tide will turn.

What if we just beat nc state and sign a top 25 class? Should we run off Mullen?

[Interpolation_Dawg_EX]

AJ Brown
Justin Mcinnis
Scott Lashley
Gentle Williams
Emmitt Gooden
Kobe Jones
Jeffery Simmons
Jamal Couch
Reggie Todd
Kaderrion Mason
Vincent Calhoun
Lorenzo Dantzler
Jeremiah Moon
Nigel Knott
John Broussard
Raekwon Davis

All of these guys are in play right now. Some others will be included but this is the main list right now. I'm sure I've missed somebody.

Do you mind if I add these to the sticky thread for 2016 recruiting as possibilities?

[Tripp McNeely]

Our fans complained because we only had one "splash" and that was Lewis. This year we'll have more of a splash at the end, but our fans are worried because they aren't verbally committed. Dan just needs to mix it up better. And maybe add in an All- Star game hat announcement guy.

Seems as if this is by design too...I think our guys are really starting to get the hang of this recruiting thing

[Todd4State]

Seems as if this is by design too...I think our guys are really starting to get the hang of this recruiting thing

Absolutely! Recruiting is a game and it is silly that all of these games are played. But it is what it is. I get some enjoyment out of following it personally, so I'm not going to knock anyone who is in to all of that other stuff. I like to go watch the recruits play in person and then make my own judgments/evaluations and then see how I do vs. the coaches and the recruiting gurus. So, I'm not really into all of the hat stuff and all of that- but I understand the perception it causes. And I understand why schools let recruits do it.

Our coaches have definitely gotten better at recruiting over the years and limiting flips and things like that. I think the 2017 class may be the culmination of their recruiting experience.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Do you mind if I add these to the sticky thread for 2016 recruiting as possibilities?

Sure

[32 Dive]

Just say they are Alabama and all is ok with the NCAA and SEC.

Best compensation system in college football. No one comes close. They have had their act together for over half a century. We are they Rays, and they are the Yankees. No bitterness. Just facts. But you sure don't go to cleaning house, 'cause you lose to the Yankees and Red Sox.

Just like with the black bears, you don't waste your time being mad. You get your act together, and recruit. Make yourself as good as possible, period.

[HoopsDawg]

What if we just beat nc state and sign a top 25 class? Should we run off Mullen?

No, of course not.

[HancockCountyDog]

No, of course not.

Was this a serious question?

Also, I would like to see Dan sign a top 250 kid that pretty much any MSU coach would sign.

[OurState]

Let me preface by saying that I am not a "star" whore when it comes to recruiting. Dan and co. have done a great job of evaluating, signing, and developing underrated talent...but unfortunately that doesn't translate to trip to Atlanta. Yes, the star and entire team ranking system is flawed, but we got whipped by almost every 4 & 5 star we faced this year. This stat says it all:



We HAVE to revamp our recruiting strategy/system so that we are consistently, or at least every other year, finishing in the top third of the SEC in recruiting. Signing day may not be until February, but being currently ranked 38th overall, and 11th in the SEC, is very disturbing. I don't know who to blame? Dan, the entire football staff, F'n Bracky, our soft "network"? Regardless who is most at fault, we either find a way to start landing 4 & 5 stars or return to being irrelevant in the SEC.

For those who are not concerned, and confident we will finish strong by landing some of our top prospects... I pray to "8lb 6oz newborn infant Jesus" that you are right. But why such the slow start this recruiting year? Teams that get an early start and land a couple of big ones early almost always seem to finish stronger. These teams are the ones flipping players, not the teams with their top prospects still uncommitted in January. Not having some solid early commits to help us recruit this year hurt, but it's not their job. Not sure how we got so far behind this year, but I see us finishing in the upper 20's...which isn't the end of the world to some, but I would consider it extremely disappointing.

Last request: SIGN SOME F'N TALENTED OL's AND LOTS OF THEM EVERY YEAR. End of my recruiting rant. Nothing would make me happier than to have this post shoved in my face in mid February after we sign a great class. Go Dawgs!

How can we be sure it Bracky not just that our staff doesn't recruit well?
How land doesn't seem handcuffed by Bracky and basketball recruiting makes football look like cub scouts.

I think our staff identifies talent well, but isn't great at the sales side of recruiting.

[CadaverDawg]

May be old news,but I heard Flowers would no longer be coming to MSU. What's the deal there? I thought he was going to be pretty good...did he take a step back at Co-Lin or something?

[msstate7]

May be old news,but I heard Flowers would no longer be coming to MSU. What's the deal there? I thought he was going to be pretty good...did he take a step back at Co-Lin or something?

We're pretty selective when it comes to olinemen. He's probably really good, but not elite**