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    Quote Originally Posted by MetEdDawg View Post
    This is pretty interesting. After this year (assuming Bear goes), we will have had draft picks at QB, WR, RB, DL (plenty of those too), LB, and CB and by the looks of it will continue to have additional DL, LB, and CB in the future get drafted. How in the hell have we not even gotten lucky and had one guy that was dominant on the OL? Malone looked like that guy 2 years ago. Not sure what happened but I thought he was a mid round guy. Now I'm not sure he gets drafted.

    But up until this year, how many Mullen offensive recruits have been drafted? Ballard and Robinson? Is that it? Not a good track record on that side of the ball, especially when you look at the success of the defensive side.
    It's crazy how we have gone from a one dimensional run team when Mullen arrived and now we're a one dimensional pass team in year 7. The biggest thing I'm disappointed in all of this is the lack of physicality on both sides of the ball. Like I mentioned in another thread, I've never seen an O-line help their QB up after a run or sack less than this group. It's almost like there is rift or something going on.

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    When Dan came on Board I heard Him say that with His offense you didn't need 4 or 5 star Olineman. He said with his blocking technique That average Olinemen would be successful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tcdog70 View Post
    When Dan came on Board I heard Him say that with His offense you didn't need 4 or 5 star Olineman. He said with his blocking technique That average Olinemen would be successful.
    Experienced average OL will be successful. Three years ago, Day, Clausell, Malone and that group weren't world beaters. But after a few years together they were very very good. I think next year this group has a lot of potential because they all come back. Senior, Desper, and Clayborn will all be seniors. Add Calhoun and Jenkins, both of whom have gotten experience this year with the ones and I think you will see much improved play next year.

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    So bottom line, is there any chance Hev will be fired?

    1 in a million? Or 0 in a million?

    We have to recruit much better at that position and it will never happen as long as he's the coach. Bottom line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew View Post
    If we're being honest we haven't had a NFL QB or WR either. That changes this year but let's not act like besides RB we've had guys going left & right off our offenses to the NFL.
    I agree but we have at least two NFL WR's right now and the first QB that Mullen recruited and signed will be drafted as well. I don't think you can hold Mullen responsible for Russell and Relf not being NFL QB's as he basically inherited them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HSVDawg View Post
    I agree but we have at least two NFL WR's right now and the first QB that Mullen recruited and signed will be drafted as well. I don't think you can hold Mullen responsible for Russell and Relf not being NFL QB's as he basically inherited them.
    Oh no doubt just saying we haven't had a lot of NFL talent at any position on offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew View Post
    Oh no doubt just saying we haven't had a lot of NFL talent at any position on offense.
    meh, our TE from the last 3 years in the NFL. We've had 3 RB's play in the NFL. We have a couple of NFL receivers on the roster and Bumphis had a short stay. It's mainly just the O-line Paul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetEdDawg View Post
    Experienced average OL will be successful. Three years ago, Day, Clausell, Malone and that group weren't world beaters. But after a few years together they were very very good. I think next year this group has a lot of potential because they all come back. Senior, Desper, and Clayborn will all be seniors. Add Calhoun and Jenkins, both of whom have gotten experience this year with the ones and I think you will see much improved play next year.
    So do they HAVE to be playing in actual games for 3 years to get better? The guys we have now have all been in our program 3 years minimum and have now all been starting/playing 10 games this season and are still awful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew View Post
    If we're being honest we haven't had a NFL QB or WR either. That changes this year but let's not act like besides RB we've had guys going left & right off our offenses to the NFL.
    And we have corrected that... So now make a move to correct the OL issue..
    Easy solution...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    meh, our TE from the last 3 years in the NFL. We've had 3 RB's play in the NFL. We have a couple of NFL receivers on the roster and Bumphis had a short stay. It's mainly just the O-line Paul.
    LOL I love the fact you think I'm Paul. So 1 TE & 1 WR who have played a snap in a NFL regular season game. Just like 1 OL has played a snap in a NFL game. You're making my point for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew View Post
    LOL I love the fact you think I'm Paul. So 1 TE & 1 WR who have played a snap in a NFL regular season game. Just like 1 OL has played a snap in a NFL game. You're making my point for me.
    No, you are actually a better poster than Paul, pnut. I appreciate the info you bring since I am no longer a member of that board. By the way, there are 5 offensive linemen on the field and only 1 TE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    No, you are actually a better poster than Paul, pnut. I appreciate the info you bring since I am no longer a member of that board. By the way, there are 5 offensive linemen on the field and only 1 TE.
    No problem. I never said that we didn't need more talent on the OL. I said that we haven't had much NFL talent on offense period besides RB. That is starting to change but the facts bear it out especially when you look at the NFL talent we've produced on defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InTheIttaBenaHotSun View Post
    I'm afraid so...
    Awesome screen name by the way!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew View Post
    No problem. I never said that we didn't need more talent on the OL. I said that we haven't had much NFL talent on offense period besides RB. That is starting to change but the facts bear it out especially when you look at the NFL talent we've produced on defense.
    Yeah, and I just simply disagree with that statement. Dak has been our QB the past 3 years and he has NFL talent. Bear has been our receiver the past 3 years and he has NFL talent. Malcolm Johnson was our TE for 3/4 years and he has NFL talent. Ross has NFL talent and our RBs have had NFL talent. We have had 8-10 different O-linemen the past 3 years and NONE have NFL talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    Yeah, and I just simply disagree with that statement. Dak has been our QB the past 3 years and he has NFL talent. Bear has been our receiver the past 3 years and he has NFL talent. Malcolm Johnson was our TE for 3/4 years and he has NFL talent. Ross has NFL talent and our RBs have had NFL talent. We have had 8-10 different O-linemen the past 3 years and NONE have NFL talent.
    And if you don't have NFL talent ,then they better at least have heart and toughness like Beckwith and Day did..
    Whoever these guys are we have that are like that better start next year.. I don't care if they are true frosh or RS frosh..,

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    Yeah, and I just simply disagree with that statement. Dak has been our QB the past 3 years and he has NFL talent. Bear has been our receiver the past 3 years and he has NFL talent. Malcolm Johnson was our TE for 3/4 years and he has NFL talent. Ross has NFL talent and our RBs have had NFL talent. We have had 8-10 different O-linemen the past 3 years and NONE have NFL talent.
    Well in the past 6-7yrs before this year we've had 1 TE, 1 WR (who didn't last long at all), & 1 OL. Yes it is changing but the #'s are the #'s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ifyouonlyknew View Post
    Well in the past 6-7yrs before this year we've had 1 TE, 1 WR (who didn't last long at all), & 1 OL. Yes it is changing but the #'s are the #'s.
    Well this is our 3rd WR coach and I pray we don't lose him.. He is by far our best position coach... So we fixed that position.
    Same OL coach for the last 7yrs... Anyone doing the math here??

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    Quote Originally Posted by mic View Post
    And if you don't have NFL talent ,then they better at least have heart and toughness like Beckwith and Day did..
    Whoever these guys are we have that are like that better start next year.. I don't care if they are true frosh or RS frosh..,
    And even with all the heart, toughness, and experience that Day, Beckwith, Malone, Clausell, etc. had last year, we still got dominated in the trenches against the only two elite DL's that we played last year in Bama and Ole Miss. Simply put, we won't ever ascend from our current position in the pecking order if we don't start knocking off those types of teams, and we won't start doing that until we start bringing in top TALENT on the OL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HSVDawg View Post
    And even with all the heart, toughness, and experience that Day, Beckwith, Malone, Clausell, etc. had last year, we still got dominated in the trenches against the only two elite DL's that we played last year in Bama and Ole Miss. Simply put, we won't ever ascend from our current position in the pecking order if we don't start knocking off those types of teams, and we won't start doing that until we start bringing in top TALENT on the OL.
    I think you are absolutely correct. When Mullen came here, he stated his goal was to get to Atlanta. Until and unless we recruit better offensive linemen and get the type of OL coach that is able to develop the talent, we can forget Atlanta.

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