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11-09-2015, 01:21 AM
#241
And let's just ask the obvious question - how does any of this solve a problem?
Let's say Wolfe resigns or is kicked out as there is probably a 1% chance he survives at this point - what kind of institutional change (religion dept. twitter) have you created? Is the campus suddenly safer? Do racial slurs suddently go away? Did an oppression end? Can Mr. Head walk around campus feeling safer knowing that the next time he has an issue the new president will issue a strongly worded e-mail denouncing (insert offense)?
I guess a kid won't die of starvation but that's about the only real benefit I see at this point.
Last edited by Irondawg; 11-09-2015 at 01:24 AM.
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11-09-2015, 05:28 AM
#242
Banned

Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
Hmmm. Well we'll see where this all goes. If the players aren't really behind this, then Pinkel and the AD are going to look really silly for saying they are.
Maybe you shouldn't spread false propaganda as fact
Once again hysteria gets you guys riled up and bought in and then the truth comes out forcing you to go back into your hole until the next propagandised story comes out. Another day in the life of the Drive-by Media. What a great name for them.
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11-09-2015, 07:13 AM
#243
Member

Originally Posted by
Blackout
Maybe you shouldn't spread false propaganda as fact
Once again hysteria gets you guys riled up and bought in and then the truth comes out forcing you to go back into your hole until the next propagandised story comes out. Another day in the life of the Drive-by Media. What a great name for them.
I wonder how long it takes Wright Thompson to get his seer sucker gear on and head back to Columbia for his next 30 for 30? You know ESPN is already on it.
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11-09-2015, 07:23 AM
#244
Banned

Originally Posted by
Maroonandwhite
I wonder how long it takes Wright Thompson to get his seer sucker gear on and head back to Columbia for his next 30 for 30? You know ESPN is already on it.

A huge portion of the media are alumni. They all are having wet dreams about this. They don't even have to appear objective because they have a personal investment.
As the great Terrell Owens said, "Get your popcorn ready cause it gone be a show"
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11-09-2015, 07:35 AM
#245
From all I can glean, someone painted a swasticka on a dorm wall. I have always been of the opinion that these were to intimidate Jews, rather than blacks.
Anyway, I just wrote my good friend that is a Mizzou booster to get the low down, as I just don't trust the media on something like this. His condensed view of this is, its all a piece of crap created by a few minor incidents that all blown out of proportion.
He doesn't blame Pinkel, as he would never be able to recruit high value players in the future.
I for one would like to see a video of the presidents car actually hitting a protester, without seeing one, I would bet a dollar that it was more like a nudge than a hit.
I saw in earlier posts that they were complaining about an on campus abortion clinic, actually it was the University resolving its involvement with the planned parenthood clinic, not contributing anymore funds.
Another thing I would like see is how much weight Mr Butler has lost before I start worrying about his welfare.
A lot of you are probably too young to remember the farmers strike back in the day, they were driving their tractors all the way to DC until it became planting time.
How is the name change for the Redskins working out?
I still say its our flag and we should honor it, and if we get another, we should honor it. I applaud our president on taking a stand. (and as long as we are laying it all out, I really didn't think he had the balls to do it) But thats just me talking.
Last edited by shannondawg; 11-09-2015 at 11:15 AM.
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11-09-2015, 07:43 AM
#246
Banned

Originally Posted by
shannondawg
From all I can glean, someone painted a swasticka on a dorm wall.
These events are 98% done as false flags. Only our Ole Miss friends have a recent event (statue) done differently
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11-09-2015, 08:26 AM
#247
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/missour...021854997.html
As usual, Dan Wetzel gets it. He doesn't knee-jerk take either "side" but supports the players' right to protest if that's what's important to them.
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11-09-2015, 08:34 AM
#248

Originally Posted by
shannondawg
From all I can glean, someone painted a swasticka on a dorm wall. I have always been of the opinion that these were to intimidate Jews, rather than blacks.
Anyway, I just wrote my good friend that is a Mizzou booster to get the low down, as I just don't trust the media on something like this.
I read something this morning that a couple of blacks had some white kids drive by and yell racial slurs at them. One of them, per the article, was drunk. Also in the article the president was asked after a speaking engagement his thoughts on systemic oppression and he came back saying that "Systematic oppression is because you don’t believe that you have the equal opportunity for success —"
So evidently, in the eyes of these groups and football players a college president should resign because a couple white kids yelled a slur as they drove by and this one comment.
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11-09-2015, 09:18 AM
#249

Originally Posted by
AlmostPositive
"Half the team is pissed...if we were 9-0 this wouldn't be happening."
Just count on Leftists lying about this every day. It's from the Alinsky playbook. Demonize and ridicule...the ends justify the means.
The players are NOT united... there hasn't been a "slew" of racists events. I'd bet a million dollars that at least a portion of the events are false flag incidents.
Nice to know someone else knows the root cause of what is happening across the nation. Hell, one guy got elected president twice by using these tactics. They do work because the general public is ignorant and passive.
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11-09-2015, 10:33 AM
#250
Banned
The increased calls for speech codes and punishing speech is a bad trend. Freedom of speech, even hateful speech, is a requirement of a free society. There is only one side that looks to shut down all opposition these days.
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11-09-2015, 10:42 AM
#251
Just thought I'd add to this behemoth of a thread.
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11-09-2015, 11:21 AM
#252
Banned
Wolfe resigns. Score one for the mob
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11-09-2015, 11:24 AM
#253

Originally Posted by
Blackout
Wolfe resigns. Score one for the mob
Was hoping he would hold out until at least Sunday to see if their football team would make good on their threat.
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11-09-2015, 11:27 AM
#254

Originally Posted by
Irondawg
Now we're starting to go off the deep end here. The President may well be an arrogant a-hole that can't lead. But while some people are saying it's far from a race issue, almost everything coming out is tied to race.
Read the intro to that letter. Now with an open mind and most of you having spent time on a major university in what is considered the most racist state in the Union, can you read that statement with a straight face and not call utter BS on a lot of it? "Oppressive environment", grave concerns over ability to thrive? Some of these department letters are almost comical.
To quote Chris Carter "C'MON MAN" - I absolutely refuse to believe most of that crap.
It's out of hand and people are just dogpiling on one way or another. As other posters have said some are dogpiling to to be part of cause and show of force, others are piling on to show "they aren't racist". The fact that certain groups are supporting the protest doesn't lead me to believe that the cause is any more right or wrong because it's groups I expect to jump on whatever bandwagon makes them look the best in any situation.

Originally Posted by
Irondawg
And let's just ask the obvious question - how does any of this solve a problem?
Let's say Wolfe resigns or is kicked out as there is probably a 1% chance he survives at this point - what kind of institutional change (religion dept. twitter) have you created? Is the campus suddenly safer? Do racial slurs suddently go away? Did an oppression end? Can Mr. Head walk around campus feeling safer knowing that the next time he has an issue the new president will issue a strongly worded e-mail denouncing (insert offense)?
I guess a kid won't die of starvation but that's about the only real benefit I see at this point.

Originally Posted by
Blackout
The increased calls for speech codes and punishing speech is a bad trend. Freedom of speech, even hateful speech, is a requirement of a free society. There is only one side that looks to shut down all opposition these days.

Originally Posted by
Blackout
Wolfe resigns. Score one for the mob
What a surprise... I hope no one thinks this is a solution...it's the beginning of bigger problems. It emboldens the least responsible elements on campus without doing a thing to remedy the perceived issues.
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11-09-2015, 11:27 AM
#255
Banned

Originally Posted by
starkvegasdawg
Was hoping he would hold out until at least Sunday to see if their football team would make good on their threat.
Definitely not a good negotiator. Was hoping to see them boycott too if nothing else but to screw with BYU
Mizzouri and Mozilla. Similar names similar fates.
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11-09-2015, 11:31 AM
#256
Banned
Can't imagine coming home to his wife tonight and having to start packing up the house after flaking out. Totally emasculated.
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11-09-2015, 11:47 AM
#257
I imagine he did what was best for his family and his school. It had unfortunately gotten to the point of no going back.
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11-09-2015, 11:51 AM
#258
Regarding Pinkell and the AD supporting the strike.....does this pretty much guarantee that they will never be considered for a job at another Power 5 program? They have come out against the university president and announced that they are ok with the football team going on strike, which means they are not practicing for their upcoming game, and if this drags out long enough, it could even result in games being forfeited. And considering the amount of money that the fans put into supporting their program, the amount of money that games bring into the local economy and the massive TV contracts, you are looking at a massive fallout....and there might even be some type of breach of contract involved with the TV deals.
If our players threatened to go on strike, I would expect our coach to make it very clear that they were free to protest and that he supported their right to do so, but that it would not be done at the expense of the football program and that any player that did try to go on strike would immediately lose their scholarship. I just think that it has to be made very clear that there is no circumstance under which going on strike is a viable option.
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11-09-2015, 12:04 PM
#259
Sounds like the Miz-ZOU (M-O-U-S-E) football players were looking for any excuse not to practice after not living up to expectations...easier to look for excuses than to take responsibility. Even though it was known that Mauk was a freaking DEALER, he would have been let back on the team if it weren't for him getting shit faced and cussing out people while standing on top of a bar, so excuse me if I don't put much stock into Pinkell's "stand".
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11-09-2015, 12:12 PM
#260
The days of Missouri winning divisional championships is over. Pinkel will cave to player demands again.
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