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Originally Posted by
MsStateBaseball
Until I see official release its just gossip.
Agreed. I haven't seen anything circulating on Twitter. What are we talking about?
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I was anxious to see how Butch adjusted his coaching philosophy after a pretty rough season with the new balls. It actually says a lot that he is still a hot commodity after laying an egg this past season.
If this indeed is true, then is all around bad for us. First off, the timing is awful. Secondly, he will now be recruiting against us. Lastly, he's a good coach. I've had my doubts about him at times since he has been here, but he managed to build a good staff for the BBCOR era. He's been bringing in some young stars too.
I guess if Auburn can pluck away a good coach this time of the year, so can we. As long as Cohen doesn't pull a Croom and promote from within...
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Looks like my prediction fell flat on its face. And for once, I'm kind of happy it did. Hopefully Butch stays. He's an excellent pitching coach.
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Didn't Butch turn down the Georgia job? That's twice the opportunity Auburn is. Hashtag lottery state.
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Originally Posted by
dickiedawg
Didn't Butch turn down the Georgia job? That's twice the opportunity Auburn is. Hashtag lottery state.
No. He didn't turn Georgia down.
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So, are you trying to say that Butch either wasn't offered the job and they
are going in a different direction or that your prognostication from yesterday was simply incorrect?
"The QB and the receiver weren't on the same page there, but hey its only week eleven". (Jack Cristil)
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I don't know what Butch's aspirations are. I've never met him. I can only go by what I've heard from other people, and it makes sense. Butch has a pretty sweet gig where he is. He is close to "home", and that typically makes the family happy. He's making good money, he's nationally recognized as one of the best in his field, he gets to do speaking engagements, recruit, and let Cohen make all the tough decisions. I've seen actual quotes from him where he's thankful that the doesn't have to make those hard decisions (cuts, managing scholarships, etc), so that's obviously something that's on his mind when he considers a head job.
I really think his relationship with Cohen will be the key factor in whatever he does.
If nothing else, he has to show some courtesy to big time schools who want an interview. He doesn't want those doors to stop closing when the situation changes and he's ready to move on. I imagine it's a bit awkward around the offices, and he has to do a lot of explaining to recruits and players, though.
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Originally Posted by
bulldogcountry1
I don't know what Butch's aspirations are. I've never met him. I can only go by what I've heard from other people, and it makes sense. Butch has a pretty sweet gig where he is. He is close to "home", and that typically makes the family happy. He's making good money, he's nationally recognized as one of the best in his field, he gets to do speaking engagements, recruit, and let Cohen make all the tough decisions. I've seen actual quotes from him where he's thankful that the doesn't have to make those hard decisions (cuts, managing scholarships, etc), so that's obviously something that's on his mind when he considers a head job.
I really think his relationship with Cohen will be the key factor in whatever he does.
If nothing else, he has to show some courtesy to big time schools who want an interview. He doesn't want those doors to stop closing when the situation changes and he's ready to move on. I imagine it's a bit awkward around the offices, and he has to do a lot of explaining to recruits and players, though.
Also, while he may have some aspirations to eventually be a HC, he just got in probably the best group of pitching recruits we've ever had in one class. I'm sure he would like to have the opportunity to coach them.
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I was in Butch's situation in my former life....he needs to stay right where he is. It won't get any better for him than what he is doing. The extra money he will make won't make up for all the bullshit and headaches that comes along with being the head guy for which he will eventually get shit canned.
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Originally Posted by
Saltydog
are going in a different direction or that your prognostication from yesterday was simply incorrect?
I was told that Butch was offered the job and was highly likely to accept it and that it would be finished yesterday. Clearly, that information proved to be somewhat off.
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Originally Posted by
I seen it dawg
I was in Butch's situation in my former life....he needs to stay right where he is. It won't get any better for him than what he is doing. The extra money he will make won't make up for all the bullshit and headaches that comes along with being the head guy for which he will eventually get shit canned.
I think many people can relate, yet, more often than not, they are willing to take on a lot more stress for a little bit more money and a title. It's a pride thing.
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I just don't see it. Mainly leaving now is bad timing and I think Butch won't leave. If this was June, yes.
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It sounds like Auburn really wants Butch, but they are also interviewing Jack Leggett. I guess they'll offer Leggett if Butch turns down the offer.
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The timing is terrible. Auburn should use an assistant this year and get a coach next off season. It would definitely hurt us this year. Hope he stays.
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Butch is at game 1 of the Bulldog World Series...FWIW
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Originally Posted by
MSUDawg99
Butch is at game 1 of the Bulldog World Series...FWIW
Sounds like he made the right decision. Auburn is not a good job. After the next few years working with the talent we have, he'll probably be able to get a shot a school with much more potential. I am also guessing he probably will not want to directly compete with Cohen. It's just a bad time all-around and hopefully he knows that. Yes I know he has Alabama connections but those are benefiting him just as much at MSU as they would at Auburn.
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