Tebow to sign with Philly....

[BeardoMSU]

What's interesting though and gets greatly reduced in value from your crowd is the "it factor" present in Tebow. He motivates his team. He wins games. 8-5 with a playoff win for a rookie is impressive. So is leading the league in rushing and rushing tds from the QB position. So is taking a 1-4 team and leading them into the playoffs. Remember Tebow singlehandedly bringing them back to beat the Jets and then doing a ten minute interview on the NFL Network? I do and I remember Rex Ryan went and signed him just so he didn't have to face him the next year. Tebow is a winner. He will win again if a team buys into him completely.

Alright, Skip, you've blown your cover***, lol.

This is another example of a double standard that exists with Tebow. Tebow as a QB, yes, as Skip has said for years: "all he does is win"....but that's not only a ridiculous statement, but also an incomplete one. The ultimate problem here is the standards in which Tebow is being judged as compared to other "marginal" talents at the QB position. Tebow can complete less than 5 passes in a a game, with a sub 20 QBR for most of the game, but now it becomes: "its not the total game, but about what he does in the 4th quarter". When he played for the Jets the mantra was always "he's not a practice player", but again, "all he does is win"..."you put him in a game situation and he'll win you games". Him not beating out the competition was turned into some religious persecution conspiracy.

Just answer me this: how many other marginal talents have this bandwagon of support behind them? How many other QB's would be able to suck it up for 3/4th's of a game and have it written off if they rush for a go-ahead TD late in the 4th quarter? These are standards that are not ubiquitous, 61.

[Dawg61]

He went 8-5 his 2nd year not his rookie year. The thing about Tebow is you're going to need a top 10 defense like Denver had that year to keep you in all those games while he's going 4-13 32yds until he has that magical 4th qtr drive. Tim is a great closer. He was like Mariano Rivera but his defense had to damn near pitch 7-8 shutout innings to all ow Tebow the opportunity to work his late game heroics. "My crowd" is just a crowd that believes my starting QB should complete more than 50% of his passes. I have no Ill feelings toward Tebow I just question & going by his #'s rightfully so if he can be a successful QB over a period of time.

If Tebow was 5-8 I'd agree with you. He isn't though. He wins games. That's all that should matter. It's a different style than everyone else and it's not pretty to watch necessarily but it is effective. He muddies up the game and comes out on top at the end. Until Tebow is losing I see no reason he shouldn't be allowed to play QB in the NFL. I don't care if he doesn't complete a single pass if he WINS the game. What would the Jags give for a playoff win? Tebow is worth that much.

[Dawg61]

Alright, Skip, you've blown your cover***, lol.

This is another example of a double standard that exists with Tebow. Tebow as a QB, yes, as Skip has said for years: "all he does is win"....but that's not only a ridiculous statement, but also an incomplete one. The ultimate problem here is the standards in which Tebow is being judged as compared to other "marginal" talents at the QB position. Tebow can complete less than 5 passes in a a game, with a sub 20 QBR for most of the game, but now it becomes: "its not the total game, but about what he does in the 4th quarter". When he played for the Jets the mantra was always "he's not a practice player", but, again "all he does is win"..."you put him in a game situation and he'll win you games".

Just answer me this: how many other marginal talents have this bandwagon of support behind them? How many other QB's would be able to suck it up for 3/4th's of a game and have it written off if they run for a go-ahead TD late in the 4th quarter? These are standards that are not ubiquitous, 61.

Nobody else wins like him in the manner he does it though. He yucks up the game. He muddies it into toughman football. As long as his style is working he deserves to keep getting a chance. Y'all want to forget that he took a losing team into the playoffs. That alone deserves him another year as a starter atleast. 8-5 is 8-5 no matter how much you pick apart his completion percentage.

[BeardoMSU]

If Tebow was 5-8 I'd agree with you. He isn't though. He wins games. That's all that should matter. It's a different style than everyone else and it's not pretty to watch necessarily but it is effective. He muddies up the game and comes out on top at the end. Until Tebow is losing I see no reason he shouldn't be allowed to play QB in the NFL. I don't care if he doesn't complete a single pass if he WINS the game. What would the Jags give for a playoff win? Tebow is worth that much.

So all those low scoring games the Broncos won is credited more to Tebow than to their defense?

How many other QB's would you be singing this same song for? Honestly.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

If Tebow was 5-8 I'd agree with you. He isn't though. He wins games. That's all that should matter. It's a different style than everyone else and it's not pretty to watch necessarily but it is effective. He muddies up the game and comes out on top at the end. Until Tebow is losing I see no reason he shouldn't be allowed to play QB in the NFL. I don't care if he doesn't complete a single pass if he WINS the game. What would the Jags give for a playoff win? Tebow is worth that much.

In 16 career starts Tebow is 9-7. He has a career completion % of 47%. Yes he lead the league in rushing for a QB but he's also fumbled 14 times in his career losing half of them. Again any other QB with those stats wouldn't be a question on whether or not he should be in the league but somehow the rules change for Tebow. That's all I'm saying. Everything that we've always judged QB's on gets thrown out for Tim & I just don't think it should be.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

Nobody else wins like him in the manner he does it though. He yucks up the game. He muddies it into toughman football. As long as his style is working he deserves to keep getting a chance. Y'all want to forget that he took a losing team into the playoffs. That alone deserves him another year as a starter atleast. 8-5 is 8-5 no matter how much you pick apart his completion percentage.

This where you lose me. You say he muddies it up like he's trying to go 4-15 on purpose. No he just can't complete those passes. Again I give him all the credit in the world for making those game winning drives but if you don't have a defense that can hold the opposing team to 10-14ppg you don't have a chance to win on a consistent basis.

[Dawg61]

In 16 career starts Tebow is 9-7. He has a career completion % of 47%. Yes he lead the league in rushing for a QB but he's also fumbled 14 times in his career losing half of them. Again any other QB with those stats wouldn't be a question on whether or not he should be in the league but somehow the rules change for Tebow. That's all I'm saying. Everything that we've always judged QB's on gets thrown out for Tim & I just don't think it should be.

Anything Tebow did with the Jets shouldn't count against him. His record is 8-5 in my book. 1-1 in the playoffs. You are ignoring the atmosphere and excitement he brought to Denver. He lifted his defense too. They play harder for him. They just do. Does he need to turn the worst team ever into a winner for you to believe? Again till he losses he deserves to keep playing. Once he starts losing you can kick him out all you like. Till then though it's TEBOW TIME!!

[Dawg61]

This where you lose me. You say he muddies it up like he's trying to go 4-15 on purpose. No he just can't complete those passes. Again I give him all the credit in the world for making those game winning drives but if you don't have a defense that can hold the opposing team to 10-14ppg you don't have a chance to win on a consistent basis.

Hey Dan whose the QB that everyone compares Dak to? You should know you coached them both.

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I hope he gets his chance in Philly. He will have all the cards in his favor in that offense.

[Rayburn8]

I think Tebow is better than Geno Smith and Shanchez. The thing is that Tebow is a perfect fit for the Chip Kelly offense. The Eagles are the only team that he has the ability to contribute at the QB position just based off what they want from a QB.

Also the reason he burned out was not because he could not play. Multiple anonymous GMs said they wanted to sign as a player and loved his skill set. But they said they won't because of the media circus that comes with him. The media killed Tebow's career.

[BulldogDX55]

Anything Tebow did with the Jets shouldn't count against him. His record is 8-5 in my book. 1-1 in the playoffs. You are ignoring the atmosphere and excitement he brought to Denver. He lifted his defense too. They play harder for him. They just do. Does he need to turn the worst team ever into a winner for you to believe? Again till he losses he deserves to keep playing. Once he starts losing you can kick him out all you like. Till then though it's TEBOW TIME!!

By your standards, Jordan Jefferson ought to be a great NFL QB right now. I mean, despite the fact that he couldn't pass worth anything, he had NFL size and JUST WINS GAMES™. Had nothing to do with the defense, right?

[lefty96]

If Tebow succeeds or fails in the NFL, it will be because of his ability to play the damn game - period. The league would start satan if he could run and catch so pack up the conspiracy theories. I don't even understand why anyone thinks this, Christian players who show their faith on the field isn't exactly a new thing. No one said squat about Deon Sander's on field displays - why? Because he was the best at what he does in the league. To this point Tebow is an intriguing, but ultimately failed first round Heisman winner who didn't make it. He's not the first and won't be the last.

[BulldogDX55]

[Rayburn8]

If Tebow succeeds or fails in the NFL, it will be because of his ability to play the damn game - period. The league would start satan if he could run and catch so pack up the conspiracy theories. I don't even understand why anyone thinks this, Christian players who show their faith on the field isn't exactly a new thing. No one said squat about Deon Sander's on field displays - why? Because he was the best at what he does in the league. To this point Tebow is an intriguing, but ultimately failed first round Heisman winner who didn't make it. He's not the first and won't be the last.

NFL GMs have come out and said it is not the Christian thing. It is the media firestorm around him. GMs have said they would love to have a guy like Tebow on their team but they can't do it because of the Media circus around him.

[BeardoMSU]

I don't even understand why anyone thinks this, Christian players who show their faith on the field isn't exactly a new thing. No one said squat about Deon Sander's on field displays - why? Because he was the best at what he does in the league.

Exactly. How many plays do you see in sports today, not just the NFL, where a player crosses their heart, points to the sky, thanks God in the presser, etc. This is ubiquitous for American sports.

[Political Hack]

Tebow can't make all the throws. CBs and Ss can sit on routes. He's not fast enough to be an elusive runner and wiggle through LBs like he did in college.

He does not fit the pro game. Chip Kelly is bringing him in as a #2/3, grinder/situational player, and locker room guy. He'll be a great addition to their roster for a lot of reasons. He'll never be the number 1 for a lot of reasons.

What I don't get is why everyone goes ape over a 3rd string QB. Other than missing him on the SECNetwork, I'm not sure why his return is really relevant to football discussions.

[lefty96]

What I don't get is why everyone goes ape over a 3rd string QB. Other than missing him on the SECNetwork, I'm not sure why his return is really relevant to football discussions.

Because the news cycle is about to choke us to death with Tebow stories, again. Certainly not his fault but is annoying.

[Really Clark?]

Exactly. How many plays do you see in sports today, not just the NFL, where a player crosses their heart, points to the sky, thanks God in the presser, etc. This is ubiquitous for American sports.

I agree with everything in this statement you made, the problem is the part that is outside of Tebow's control. All those other players combined, will not have the media attention or circus that Tebow does for the same thing. You wont have 10 min segments on ESPN, NFL network, NBC, sports writers, bloggers, etc discuss every pro and con of him doing that. To be honest, I think a lot of times journalist and the public in general, as much as they love a story about a positive role model in an athlete, the destruction of that athlete or the circus to surround them to find evidence that they are not perfect (which no one is) is 1000 times more of a motivation to them. I know if it was me, and this would not change me as a Christian or Tebow but I acknowledge would tarnish the public opinion, then at some point I give them something to really write about. As far as that side of the matter goes, so far he deserves a ton of respect of how he has handled the scrunty off the field. I do think that one shirt he wore last fall might have knocked some luster off his shine.*** Lol

Pretty hideous and another thing that probably got more traction and discussion because it was Tebow.

[shoeless joe]

So his QBR is slightly lower than those guys who are currently in the NFL and even started as recently as last year? Doesn't really help your point.

[scottycameron]

So his QBR is slightly lower than those guys who are currently in the NFL and even started as recently as last year? Doesn't really help your point.

The girls get confused about fantasy football and football non fantasy version. They don't give out the Lonbardy for ratings or fantasy points, boys.