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Originally Posted by
CadaverDawg
Bingo.
Jack has said himself that the reason Tiger probably wouldn't catch his major record was bc the field is now full of Tigers.
Tiger's the best golfer ever. And I love Jack.
Technology, weight training, etc has the new generation way ahead. That's not a knock on Jack and that field...it's just a different game now. Longer courses are another thing people don't factor in. Anyone saying Jack was better is kidding themselves. Surplant Tiger in Jacks era and he makes them look silly.
Give Jack Tiger's equipment and it's a battle. Let Tiger play with wood and those old irons
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
We'll just have to disagree there. Tiger didnt win majors any faster than Jack. Jack finished 2nd in the US Open behind Palmer as an amateur- with Palmer having to shoot a 65 on Sunday to beat him. I do think the tour is very tough now- but I think there was certainly a lull when Tiger first began- and the info shows it with scoring. Just as Tiger never coming from behind to win a major- thats not greatness. Life was great as a frontrunner- but when he was has to battle? He is no better than anybody else.
And of course- no more HGH
Tiger won his 14 2 yrs faster than Jack but what the hell. pretty equal there. but the fact that tiger won one less tourney championship in 10 years than jack did in 20 speaks volumes. I still think you are right though, it's gonna be tough, based on the modern day field, for tiger to get 4 more majors.
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Originally Posted by
CadaverDawg
Bingo.
Anyone saying Jack was better is kidding themselves. Surplant Tiger in Jacks era and he makes them look silly.
You can't be serious. The tour now is full of a bunch of pansies and chokers who can't close shit on Sunday. What Speith did today is a rarity on the PGA Tour this day in time. Anyone who believes today's competition is tougher than what Jack faced in his time is a fool.
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Originally Posted by
MrKotter
You can't be serious. The tour now is full of a bunch of pansies and chokers who can't close shit on Sunday. What Speith did today is a rarity on the PGA Tour this day in time. Anyone who believes today's competition is tougher than what Jack faced in his time is a fool.
I totally disagree with everything you said.
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Originally Posted by
Bully13
Tiger won his 14 2 yrs faster than Jack but what the hell. pretty equal there. .
Jack took 45 Majors to win 10....Tiger took 41
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I don't have the numbers in front of me, but id be willing to bet there were way more tournaments being played in the 10 years that Tiger won them, than there were when Jack was playing. I am pretty sure Jack wasn't ever running off to Dubai to play against a shitty field.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Jack took 45 Majors to win 10....Tiger took 41
again, it's splitting hairs on the majors. touche. but for tiger to come up with 1 PGA victory short in 10 yrs vs Jack's 20 is note worthy.
personally, I want someone else to break Jack's 18 . I don't like Tiger for numerous reasons personally. but I want him around because I like to see him humbled.
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So after Tiger proved some of you wrong by not withdrawing and finishing out respectably after what had to be a painful incident at best, you resort to making fun of what he told the TV about it afterwards. Why not just say you don't like the guy and be done with it?
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Cause what he told the guy is a joke.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Cause what he told the guy is a joke.
X 10.. and the reason is obvious.. good one coach
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Cause what he told the guy is a joke.
Doesn't change the fact he toughed out the round contrary to the thread's original prediction.
For the record, I thought that response was downright bizarre.
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One of his last excuses were that "his glutes weren't firing". What the hell does that even mean? I,for one, can say I'm glad Tiger is done. They actually show the rest of the field on TV now.
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Originally Posted by
DeltaDawg
One of his last excuses were that "his glutes weren't firing". What the hell does that even mean? I,for one, can say I'm glad Tiger is done. They actually show the rest of the field on TV now.
maybe he had too much rice and bread before the round
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Senior Member
Tiger is not done yet. I think he makes one more run.
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Originally Posted by
MrKotter
You can't be serious. The tour now is full of a bunch of pansies and chokers who can't close shit on Sunday. What Speith did today is a rarity on the PGA Tour this day in time. Anyone who believes today's competition is tougher than what Jack faced in his time is a fool.
Couldn't disagree more. You guys have it all wrong acting like the field is weaker nowadays. It is so much stronger now than ever. But some of you just hate Tiger, so you can't accept it. I get that. You're wrong, but I get it.
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I think golf got into the 90's and early 2000's where they were missing some truly great players- but Tiger changed the game on these guys and forced a new way of thinking. I agree that the Tour is really good now. It's way more mentally tough than it was 15 years ago
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Originally Posted by
sbcmortgageman
Tiger is not done yet. I think he makes one more run.
I'm not sure. I think he's finally got his game back in order, but it's going to be hard to win as consistently as he did prior to his "incident" because there are quite a few more guys near or on his level now than there were then.
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Originally Posted by
thf24
I'm not sure. I think he's finally got his game back in order, but it's going to be hard to win as consistently as he did prior to his "incident" because there are quite a few more guys near or on his level now than there were then.
He's not going to make another run I don't think, but he is in position to win another major I think. I think the only question is whether he can handle the pressure now that his opportunities to win majors are infrequent. I could definitely see him pressing too hard now that there's no guarantee that another chance is just around the corner.
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Tiger only needs to straighten out his driver and he'll be winning again. If you paid attention to how he played you'd see this. Fixing his tee game is the easiest of all corrections. They thought he'd struggle chipping it but he didn't and his putting is solid as normal. Irons also solid. He corrects his tee box and he'll be same ol Tiger again.
The Tour is drastically deeper in 2015 than in 1965. It's not even an argument. There's several lower tier USA tours nowadays and European, Asian, South African, Australian, Central American and South American golf is light years ahead of where it was in 1965. Some of those areas/countries didn't have one single pro golfer back then. To say golf was better in 1965 is like saying cell phones were better in 1965.
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Originally Posted by
AlSwearengen
Yep. Who knew golf was such a physical sport.
Golf is a game.
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