USCe Game 2 Thread

[JohnnyQuid]

Big Boy backwards K.

That ball was damn near in the batters box

[Smitty]

Hey! Lets bunt our .300/.405/.567 in SEC play hitter!

Didn't score after 1st and 2nd NO outs. Why? Giving away outs.

[msstate7]

That ball was damn near in the batters box

Hopefully blue ready to go home. Call strikes

[msstate7]

Hey! Lets bunt our .300/.405/.567 in SEC play hitter!

Didn't score after 1st and 2nd NO outs. Why? Giving away outs.

Don't judge a move by the results.., where have I heard that? Haha

[JohnnyQuid]

Hey! Lets bunt our .300/.405/.567 in SEC play hitter!

Didn't score after 1st and 2nd NO outs. Why? Giving away outs.

Yea that's why we didn't score ** I'm sorry u can't say that by not bunting there we score.

[Smitty]

Yea that's why we didn't score ** I'm sorry u can't say that by not bunting there we score.

Um, we have a better chance to.

[Smitty]

Don't judge a move by the results.., where have I heard that? Haha

We know how to judge it.. We have the ability to say one move is better than another

[confucius say]

Hey! Lets bunt our .300/.405/.567 in SEC play hitter!

Didn't score after 1st and 2nd NO outs. Why? Giving away outs.

You are kidding right. You do realize you have a much better chance of scoring statistically speaking with second and third and one out then runner on second and no outs.

This does not fall into your usual line of thinking with a runner on first and nobody out.

[Smitty]

We win!! Despite Cohen's best efforts!!!

Get the brooms out tomorrow!

[JohnnyQuid]

Um, we have a better chance to.

That may be but u can't say that's why we didn't score just sounds stupid. Was right call in that situation. And anyway, we win.

[Smitty]

You are kidding right. You do realize you have a much better chance of scoring statistically speaking with second and third and one out then runner on second and no outs.

This does not fall into your usual line of thinking with a runner on first and nobody out.

You score less runs. And you assume 100% bunt success. Obviously bunts are not 100% successful.

[Todd4State]

You score less runs. And you assume 100% bunt success. Obviously bunts are not 100% successful.

While you assume 100% hit success...

[confucius say]

You score less runs. And you assume 100% bunt success. Obviously bunts are not 100% successful.

That is a fair point. I am assuming you are successful with the bunt.

But you do not score less. Not with a lefty-righty matchup on deck and a guy that is not going to be doubled up. Now full disclosure, you do leave first base open which allows for a free pass to set up the double play, and because big boy was in the hole any ground ball not through would be a double play. This aint checkers, its chess.

[Smitty]

While you assume 100% hit success...

Yeah..... That's a really unintelligent statement.

[Smitty]

That is a fair point. I am assuming you are successful with the bunt.

But you do not score less. Not with a lefty-righty matchup on deck and a guy that is not going to be doubled up. Now full disclosure, you do leave first base open which allows for a free pass to set up the double play, and because big boy was in the hole any ground ball not through would be a double play. This aint checkers, its chess.

http://www.boydsworld.com/data/ert.html

You score less

[Todd4State]

That is a fair point. I am assuming you are successful with the bunt.

But you do not score less. Not with a lefty-righty matchup on deck and a guy that is not going to be doubled up. Now full disclosure, you do leave first base open which allows for a free pass to set up the double play, and because big boy was in the hole any ground ball not through would be a double play. This aint checkers, its chess.

Actual thinking like a real baseball person. This is refreshing.

[confucius say]

http://www.boydsworld.com/data/ert.html

You score less

This is the dumbest thing you have ever posted. It proves you are wrong. You do understand up by two in the bottom of the eighth we are not playing for MULTIPLE runs. I'm not trying to hang a crooked number up there and no baseball manager in the history of the game is trying to do that (yes, even with a suspect bull pen-but mind you, our pen has become more solid lately with Fitts and the emergence of Mintz). You are trying to add AN insurance run, and if you get more, then great. The charts prove you are more likely to score A run with second and third and one out than first and second and no outs. Its okay to bunt in some situations.

[Smitty]

This is the dumbest thing you have ever posted. It proves you are wrong. You do understand up by two in the bottom of the eighth we are not playing for MULTIPLE runs. I'm not trying to hang a crooked number up there and no baseball manager in the history of the game is trying to do that (yes, even with a suspect bull pen-but mind you, our pen has become more solid lately with Fitts and the emergence of Mintz). You are trying to add AN insurance run, and if you get more, then great. The charts prove you are more likely to score A run with second and third and one out than first and second and no outs. Its okay to bunt in some situations.

This is a tired meme that really doesn't make sense. Playing for one doesn't increase your chances of scoring.

The move two over bunt would be okay if we had Robson or Spruill up.. Not Hump.

[confucius say]

This is a tired meme that really doesn't make sense. Playing for one doesn't increase your chances of scoring.

The move two over bunt would be okay if we had Robson or Spruill up.. Not Hump.

1. So you disagree with the chart you posted to attempt to make your point? Because the chart you posted absolutely says its increases your chance of scoring.
2. If Spruill is up, we have much bigger issues then deciding whether or not to bunt because Cohen has lost his mind or everybody else on the team quit.
3. I do appreciate your baseball knowledge, we just disagree on this point. And your chart supports my line of thinking.

[Smitty]

1. So you disagree with the chart you posted to attempt to make your point? Because the chart you posted absolutely says its increases your chance of scoring.
2. If Spruill is up, we have much bigger issues then deciding whether or not to bunt because Cohen has lost his mind or everybody else on the team quit.
3. I do appreciate your baseball knowledge, we just disagree on this point. And your chart supports my line of thinking.

Having runners there increases your chances of scoring 2%. To get runners there you MUST have a successful sac bunt which can't be done at a 95% rate. Meaning bunting does not increase your chances.