Tookie brown

[Coach34]

Big difference in Black and Endo-Black will be fine and has some basketball intelligence- Endo is a 7 min per game guy.

[Dawg61]

Big difference in Black and Endo-Black will be fine and has some basketball intelligence- Endo is a 7 min per game guy.

Honestly and Engie you can quote me on this, I would replace Ndoye, Black, Daniels, Dunlap. We will get very little out of these four. Of course I'd only do that with a new coach hired first.

[smootness]

Honestly and Engie you can quote me on this, I would replace Ndoye, Black, Daniels, Dunlap. We will get very little out of these four. Of course I'd only do that with a new coach hired first.

Do you understand the concept of a freshman?

Daniels and Dunlap, you could have a point on, even with Dunlap himself being a freshman. Ndoye and Black? They were never supposed to be guys who carried the team this year. They're developmental guys.

[Dawg61]

Do you understand the concept of a freshman?

Daniels and Dunlap, you could have a point on, even with Dunlap himself being a freshman. Ndoye and Black? They were never supposed to be guys who carried the team this year. They're developmental guys.

They can develop themselves. Just not at MSU anymore. I'm cutthroat when we suck. LSU has Hornsby. Ole Miss has Moody. I want those type players brought in. Those players are ready to start day 1.

[msstate7]

Black will be a good player. He shouldn't be encouraged to go anywhere

[JOHNHEVESYMADE]

Death, Taxes, and Undersized point guards during the Rick Ray era.

[Dawg61]

Black will be a good player. He shouldn't be encouraged to go anywhere

Dunlap averages more points than Black.

[msstate7]

Dunlap averages more points than Black.

He's a freshman. Charles Rhodes avg 2.9 points a game as a freshman. Glad you didn't run him off.

Not saying black is gonna be Rhodes good. Just saying be a little patient. Look at the difference between johnson his freshman year to now

[Dawg61]

He's a freshman. Charles Rhodes avg 2.9 points a game as a freshman. Glad you didn't run him off.

Not saying black is gonna be Rhodes good. Just saying be a little patient. Look at the difference between johnson his freshman year to now

I have no patience when we suck. I understand you like him though so I'll ease off.

[msstate7]

I have no patience when we suck. I understand you like him though so I'll ease off.

If I say I like ray will you ease off him too?***

My patience with ray is stretching thin...

[Dawg61]

If I say I like ray will you ease off him too?***

My patience with ray is stretching thin...

If I actually thought you liked Ray maybe but I just think you like Tookie, Spoon and Simonds and you're afraid we'll lose them through the change. Never ever let recruits dictate whose the HC. "Learn this you will." Yoda

[Coach34]

Honestly and Engie you can quote me on this, I would replace Ndoye, Black, Daniels, Dunlap. We will get very little out of these four. Of course I'd only do that with a new coach hired first.

You wanted to cut Thomas from the team before the season- so pretty much everything you post is up for scrutiny. Black is going to be a decent player- Dunlap? Not so much

[Dawg61]

You wanted to cut Thomas from the team before the season- so pretty much everything you post is up for scrutiny. Black is going to be a decent player- Dunlap? Not so much

Yea cause Thomas is All-SEC.****

[msstate7]

If I actually thought you liked Ray maybe but I just think you like Tookie, Spoon and Simonds and you're afraid we'll lose them through the change. Never ever let recruits dictate whose the HC. "Learn this you will." Yoda

If we lose ray, we'll lose simonds. If Ray bombs next season, I want em gone if it costs us every player we have. I'm trying to keep an open mind about ray and hope more talent next year results in postseason.

[Dawg61]

If we lose ray, we'll lose simonds. If Ray bombs next season, I want em gone if it costs us every player we have. I'm trying to keep an open mind about ray and hope more talent next year results in postseason.

Open mind sounds more like a blind eye to me. You can't ignore the suck. Ignoring the suck and hoping for magical turnarounds only extends the suck even longer and we are at a critical point in time that will influence the next four year path we take. Us waiting just one more year will bite us in the ass for a long time continuously. The time to fire Ray is after THIS YEAR not after next year.

[msstate7]

Open mind sounds more like a blind eye to me. You can't ignore the suck. Ignoring the suck and hoping for magical turnarounds only extends the suck even longer and we are at a critical point in time that will influence the next four year path we take. Us waiting just one more year will bite us in the ass for a long time continuously. The time to fire Ray is after THIS YEAR not after next year.

Don't convince me. Convince SS. I know ray will be back so I'm pulling for him. If SS does pull the trigger, I'll pull for the new coach

[Homedawg]

Honestly and Engie you can quote me on this, I would replace Ndoye, Black, Daniels, Dunlap. We will get very little out of these four. Of course I'd only do that with a new coach hired first.

So, you want a full roster of 13 and want these all cut? Makes sense.

[Dawg61]

So, you want a full roster of 13 and want these all cut? Makes sense.

Replaced with better players. Still a full 13. It's called positive turnover.

[smootness]

Replaced with better players. Still a full 13. It's called positive turnover.

You want a team full of JUCOs. It's ridiculous.

[Coach34]

You want a team full of JUCOs. It's ridiculous.

We brag about the player development and redshirting of our football and baseball coaches- but want instant success from basketball. OK