I just still dont understand the bitter Stands supporters

[Coach34]

Nobody likes losing. Nobody is happy about the state of the program currently. We have traded constant drama and embarrassment around the program for losing on the court and falling to the bottom of the SEC. It sux.

But how anybody can claim Stands needed another year is beyond me. I dont get it. The team full of Sword, Fred, Ware, Wendell Lewis, and Jalen Steele was going to be a shitty one no matter who coached it. But besides that:

I cant fathom how anybody can try to justify giving Stands another year after Renardo Sidney. Think about this and the lack of control our HC had- we had to leave Sidney behind to stay here in the States when our team went to Europe to bond and play in the Fall. Why did we have to leave him behind you ask? Because we were terrified he would be drug tested by the NCAA on the trip- as teams are subject to be. How can you be so powerless as a HC to allow that to stay on your team? The embarrassment of the stories of Sidney going to "workout" with John Lucas??? Moultrie being suspended for failing multiple drug tests. You dont get a 3 game suspension for one failed test ya know. If you cant see that a change HAD TO BE MADE after all that- I just dont know what to tell you. Getting rid of Sidney wasnt going to make it get better- Sidney didnt make the other guys do drugs. Ray had to kick 2 others off for multiple failed tests once he got the job. It wasnt going to get any better under Stands.

Lastly- before you bash Stricklin again- think about that. He just got rid of a coach that had let things get so bad- nobody on the damn team could pass a drug test. He had just had a HC come to him and explain he was leaving one of his starting basketball players behind on the Europe trip because he was too much of a drug risk. But that he was still going to keep him on the team. So when Strick was having to make another hire- you can bet all this played a part in his decision-making.

Ray may not be the answer- but we made the correct decision in making the coaching change. We dont have the drama surrounding our program anymore and that is tremendous improvement. We just have to get more talented players on campus- whomever can do that and coach them.

[STATEBALLIN]

Nobody likes losing. Nobody is happy about the state of the program currently. We have traded constant drama and embarrassment around the program for losing on the court and falling to the bottom of the SEC. It sux.

But how anybody can claim Stands needed another year is beyond me. I dont get it. The team full of Sword, Fred, Ware, Wendell Lewis, and Jalen Steele was going to be a shitty one no matter who coached it. But besides that:

I cant fathom how anybody can try to justify giving Stands another year after Renardo Sidney. Think about this and the lack of control our HC had- we had to leave Sidney behind to stay here in the States when our team went to Europe to bond and play in the Fall. Why did we have to leave him behind you ask? Because we were terrified he would be drug tested by the NCAA on the trip- as teams are subject to be. How can you be so powerless as a HC to allow that to stay on your team? The embarrassment of the stories of Sidney going to "workout" with John Lucas??? Moultrie being suspended for failing multiple drug tests. You dont get a 3 game suspension for one failed test ya know. If you cant see that a change HAD TO BE MADE after all that- I just dont know what to tell you. Getting rid of Sidney wasnt going to make it get better- Sidney didnt make the other guys do drugs. Ray had to kick 2 others off for multiple failed tests once he got the job. It wasnt going to get any better under Stands.

Lastly- before you bash Stricklin again- think about that. He just got rid of a coach that had let things get so bad- nobody on the damn team could pass a drug test. He had just had a HC come to him and explain he was leaving one of his starting basketball players behind on the Europe trip because he was too much of a drug risk. But that he was still going to keep him on the team. So when Strick was having to make another hire- you can bet all this played a part in his decision-making.

Ray may not be the answer- but we made the correct decision in making the coaching change. We dont have the drama surrounding our program anymore and that is tremendous improvement. We just have to get more talented players on campus- whomever can do that and coach them.

They won't be happy until ray is gone which implies stricklin was wrong. Simple as that. Ignorance imo but the way it is.

I think some egos were compromised because they felt a false sense of power within the program that they want to contain and restore with Ray being let go.

JMO

[msstate7]

Barring a complete meltdown to finish this season, I want to give ray one more year. Give Ray a chance to sink or swim with the class he got when he started here. Ray will have his most talented recruit (weatherspoon), senior laden team, and Lord willing, a healthy roster. If ray can't get us in the ncaa, he probably never will and it'll be time to move on

[War Machine Dawg]

"University of Stands" is about the most accurate description of that crowd I've seen. Typical coach first, MSU second bullshit from our fans. Look at Polk/Cohen.

[Saltydog]

Phil Turner as well?

[Coach34]

Phil Turner was sent a letter by Stands telling him he wasnt welcome to return for his 5th year and was cut from the team. Not face to face or even a phone call- a letter in the mail.

[Saltydog]

nt

[Acid mouth]

Nobody likes losing. Nobody is happy about the state of the program currently. We have traded constant drama and embarrassment around the program for losing on the court and falling to the bottom of the SEC. It sux.

But how anybody can claim Stands needed another year is beyond me. I dont get it. The team full of Sword, Fred, Ware, Wendell Lewis, and Jalen Steele was going to be a shitty one no matter who coached it. But besides that:

I cant fathom how anybody can try to justify giving Stands another year after Renardo Sidney. Think about this and the lack of control our HC had- we had to leave Sidney behind to stay here in the States when our team went to Europe to bond and play in the Fall. Why did we have to leave him behind you ask? Because we were terrified he would be drug tested by the NCAA on the trip- as teams are subject to be. How can you be so powerless as a HC to allow that to stay on your team? The embarrassment of the stories of Sidney going to "workout" with John Lucas??? Moultrie being suspended for failing multiple drug tests. You dont get a 3 game suspension for one failed test ya know. If you cant see that a change HAD TO BE MADE after all that- I just dont know what to tell you. Getting rid of Sidney wasnt going to make it get better- Sidney didnt make the other guys do drugs. Ray had to kick 2 others off for multiple failed tests once he got the job. It wasnt going to get any better under Stands.

Lastly- before you bash Stricklin again- think about that. He just got rid of a coach that had let things get so bad- nobody on the damn team could pass a drug test. He had just had a HC come to him and explain he was leaving one of his starting basketball players behind on the Europe trip because he was too much of a drug risk. But that he was still going to keep him on the team. So when Strick was having to make another hire- you can bet all this played a part in his decision-making.

Ray may not be the answer- but we made the correct decision in making the coaching change. We dont have the drama surrounding our program anymore and that is tremendous improvement. We just have to get more talented players on campus- whomever can do that and coach them.

I can't read all your gibberish



ok- when you do- come back and respond to what I said.

Thanks,

C34

[shannondawg]

If I was Stansbury I would get a restraining order for Coach. I wonder if Coach stalked him while he was here. Obsession comes to mind, and then I ask myself why? Could it be his love affair with Richard Williams?

[HoopsDawg]

Really Coach, you don't understand the bitterness on this board?

I will explain it to you. The bitterness comes from the fact that people perceive this as your board and you were on a one man, 5 year mission to get Stans fired. You got your way and this mess is the result. Now more people are interested in Women's Hoops than Men's Hoops. Our program is decimated. There were several posters that warned against your line of thinking saying things like: look what happened at Arkansas, look what happened at AU, well now we are at those levels and below.

Stans should have been given one more year for 2 reasons:

1) give him a chance to put the Sidney Show behind him and move forward or
2) give our AD a chance to have a legit coach lined up

[drunkernhelldawg]

It's really ridiculous to keep spinning this stuff out. We had the dominant program in our region with Stans. We blew it up because you and others said we had to. Ancient, though sad, history to me. Tired of your constant justifications for the crater you and others left where The Hump once stood. Blah blah blah.

I think Ray is doing a good job. Firing him now would only compound the original error. When he says it's year one, I know exactly what he means: He means that he just now finally has the pieces to put a competitive team on the floor. That's why I think he should get at least two more years.

[Liverpooldawg]

I'll add 3). Firing the winningest coach in your program's history after a 20 win NIT season unless you are Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, or UNC is not going to make coaches want your job.

[TheDogFather]

Phil Turner was sent a letter by Stands telling him he wasnt welcome to return for his 5th year and was cut from the team. Not face to face or even a phone call- a letter in the mail.

It doesn't matter the personnel, you will always side against Stansbury. Just another in a long line of your very own hypocritical posts. You Stansbury anti-bias is exponentially stronger than anyone's Stansbury support.

It is well documented that Turner indicated to the compliance office, the coaching staff, and multiple administrators that he wasn't coming back - Turner even came back and said as much himself. Turner did not enroll in summer school which, while not required, is the norm. Turner skipped two season ending team meetings - Screw the fact that one ended up being cancelled because he wasn't showing up either way. Basically gave the coaching staff "the bird". Turner reaped what he sowed, a pink slip. My employer doesn't give a kindergartener's pep talk and rub on the head when someone leaves or gets fired either.

But of course you can't bring this up because it won't fit your narrative.

This entire thread is bullshit stirred up by you because every other successful SEC men's basketball team is using message boards to discuss their team performance and support for a decent program. And we don't have anything else to talk about.

How about you starting a thread pointing out how shitty our basketball team and basketball coach is TODAY. The "bitterness" is your unending drivel made up to demean the man every time his name shows up on this board. And when it doesn't show up for a while you bring out the shit stirrer. This thread is the perfect example.

[Saltydog]

would have likely been it anyway..........

The team full of Sword, Fred, Ware, Wendell Lewis, and Jalen Steele was going to be a shitty one no matter who coached it.

[msstate7]

would have likely been it anyway..........

The team full of Sword, Fred, Ware, Wendell Lewis, and Jalen Steele was going to be a shitty one no matter who coached it.

Gray would've been on that team. Hood may have

[Coach34]

Really Coach, you don't understand the bitterness on this board?

I will explain it to you. The bitterness comes from the fact that people perceive this as your board and you were on a one man, 5 year mission to get Stans fired. You got your way and this mess is the result. Now more people are interested in Women's Hoops than Men's Hoops. Our program is decimated. There were several posters that warned against your line of thinking saying things like: look what happened at Arkansas, look what happened at AU, well now we are at those levels and below.

Stans should have been given one more year for 2 reasons:

1) give him a chance to put the Sidney Show behind him and move forward or
2) give our AD a chance to have a legit coach lined up

As I clearly pointed out- the Sidney Show was not the only problem within our program. Rampant drug use was throughout. Deville was so bad off even he was run off because he was in such rough shape. The social media meltdowns calling Stands out.The constant revolving door in the program. Lack of S&C. And on and on.

Strick made the hire he did to completely get away from that and it wouldnt have mattered if Stands had another year or not. Had we hired Payne- there is certainly no doubt that we would have more talent on campus than we do now. Can he coach it- who knows? Strick made a hiring decision to go completely away from what we had been doing from a recruiting standpoint.

Thats not my fault.
Thats not a reflection on what type of coach we could have hired

Thats a direct result of the decision by the AD

But as I pointed out in the original post- Stands had to go. It was a complete no-brainer. The kind of shit that was going on within the program was ridiculous.

[rabbitthedawg]

let it go Coach...let it go!

[EMDawg]

I can only remember the Sidney Hawaii incident as far as embarrassments. I remember a lot of winning, disappointments at times, and loud, sold out games at the hump.

You know what's embarrassing... 9 f'n points in a half and your opponent being able to buy court side seats at tip.

They should have had something lined up before Stans was fired. I hope that is what's going on now. The only way he deserves another year is if he gets Newman's signature.

[K9 Avenger]

They won't be happy until ray is gone which implies stricklin was wrong. Simple as that. Ignorance imo but the way it is.

I think some egos were compromised because they felt a false sense of power within the program that they want to contain and restore with Ray being let go.

JMO

This is spot on...don't forget that many of the same egos that helped Stans have refused to help Ray...all out of spite. Pride goeth before the fall...

[Coach34]

Gray would've been on that team. Hood may have

Hood was gone

The same Gray that has lost his starting job at LSU and averages 1.5 more turnover per game than Ready? You think having him would have been a good thing?