Depressing

[msstate7]

We're 1 game into our sec basketball schedule and it seems the season is over. I really loved watching sec basketball. I feel cheated...

[I seen it dawg]

You need to figure out something else then.

[Goat from MSU]

Clean out your house ,I got stuff and paperwork from over 20 years ago,I am tossing .I am not going to have my blood pressure go up over Ray's crap he is putting on the court.

[starkvegasdawg]

Clean out your house ,I got stuff and paperwork from over 20 years ago,I am tossing .I am not going to have my blood pressure go up over Ray's crap he is putting on the court.

And here we were thinking Bobby Knight was the only one to have ever taken a dump on the basketball court.

[Goat from MSU]

Bobby Knight's mother taught Rick Ray in school .That is a true fact. Scary

[maroonmania]

I'll be honest, if we are going to suck in a sport I'm glad its basketball. College basketball, due to the corrupt recruiting, loads of prima donnas and lack of any fundamentals (thanks AAU) has really lowered my interest in the sport. Also, the garbage that goes on at a place like KY where they sign half the top ten players every year and then they leave and the next group rolls through has soured me as well. Still enjoy college basketball much, much more than the NBA but I enjoy college football and college baseball a lot more than college basketball at this point.

[msstate7]

I'll be honest, if we are going to suck in a sport I'm glad its basketball. College basketball, due to the corrupt recruiting, loads of prima donnas and lack of any fundamentals (thanks AAU) has really lowered my interest in the sport. Also, the garbage that goes on at a place like KY where they sign half the top ten players every year and then they leave and the next group rolls through has soured me as well. Still enjoy college basketball much, much more than the NBA but I enjoy college football and college baseball a lot more than college basketball at this point.

If we're gonna have a weak sport, I'm ok with it being basketball. I just can't stand it being so pathetic. I can't stand going into games pretty much knowing we have no shot even against bad teams.

[CadaverDawg]

I'll be honest, if we are going to suck in a sport I'm glad its basketball. College basketball, due to the corrupt recruiting, loads of prima donnas and lack of any fundamentals (thanks AAU) has really lowered my interest in the sport. Also, the garbage that goes on at a place like KY where they sign half the top ten players every year and then they leave and the next group rolls through has soured me as well. Still enjoy college basketball much, much more than the NBA but I enjoy college football and college baseball a lot more than college basketball at this point.

I agree.

I want to be good in all 3, but if we have to suck in one...let it be basketball. The problem is, we don't have to suck in any of them.

[msstate7]

I'm sure no one agrees with me, but I'd like stansbury to at least be interviewed if ray is fired this year. I'm not saying make him our primary target, but at least keep him in mind. Perhaps the time off helped recharge him and helped him see his past mistakes. Stansbury has won here, so I think he could do it again. We hired Richard Williams so we forgave him for embarrassing our university. Why not at least see what stansbury has to say in an interview?

[engie]

I'm with you.

I don't want to suck in basketball. I'm tired of sucking in basketball. We are missing a golden opportunity right now to revolutionize "how the country sees MSU". Us being terrible in one of the(really big 2 for this discussion) just confirms to the country "what they already think that MSU really is and will be again."

We just became the most watched Adidas school in football this year by 10 million viewers. Would have been pretty clutch to be able to parlay that into basketball, because we already know we're their flagship baseball school. Then again, they've rolled snake eyes twice in their negotiation windows with us. We command double the $$ both times if the window falls one year later...

[engie]

I'm sure no one agrees with me, but I'd like stansbury to at least be interviewed if ray is fired this year. I'm not saying make him our primary target, but at least keep him in mind. Perhaps the time off helped recharge him and helped him see his past mistakes. Stansbury has won here, so I think he could do it again. We hired Richard Williams so we forgave him for embarrassing our university. Why not at least see what stansbury has to say in an interview?

helllllllllll no....

You are just asking to open old wounds on all sides and reignite the infighting. As is, the fanbase is currently the most united it's been since 2007 or so. United in discontent. It's yet to be seen if it can be united in content.

[Political Hack]

Stans, Strick & Bracky will never work together again in any capacity.

We can get a better coach. Just someone who plays an exciting brand of basketball, running the floor, with pressure on D would be nice. I'd make Shaka take the job if I was Strick. I'd give him $2M a year if needed just for that brand of basketball. It's a perfect time for an up and coming coach to take over an SEC program. The league is down considerably and could be easy to make a run in with just 5-7 decent players.

[bluelightstar]

I love all three sports, but basketball is my #2. I hate seeing it like this. I've watched every State game I could this season, because I can't NOT watch State basketball but it actually hurts. The Hump is empty, the team is awful, and this has to be fixed immediately.

They did a young alumni season ticket offer for basketball like they did for football and I don't know a single person who took them up on it. I'm sure there were some to get them, but everybody I knew was all in immediately on football and put that offer right in the trash.

[bluelightstar]

Stans, Strick & Bracky will never work together again in any capacity.

We can get a better coach. Just someone who plays an exciting brand of basketball, running the floor, with pressure on D would be nice. I'd make Shaka take the job if I was Strick. I'd give him $2M a year if needed just for that brand of basketball. It's a perfect time for an up and coming coach to take over an SEC program. The league is down considerably and could be easy to make a run in with just 5-7 decent players.

Agree, at this point, I don't see why Stricklin wouldn't just make a "proof is in the pudding" hire and make THE coach an offer he can't refuse.

[Political Hack]

Agree, at this point, I don't see why Stricklin wouldn't just make a "proof is in the pudding" hire and make THE coach an offer he can't refuse.

I can't understand why we're sacrificing basketball. It's generally a low cost sport that can turn a decent amount of revenue, and God know LT part II is focused on making money above all else. outside of travel, it doesn't cost a lot to run a basketball team.

We've got the football and baseball program on cruise control right now, so why not make a major move in basketball and become a threat in all 3? If we don't make a MAJOR move at the end of this season, Strick should be relieved of his responsibilities. And if he doesn't show up to Keenum's door with an absolute rock star ready to take over the program, the coach should be "fired" before he's even hired and Strick should be asked to clean out his office that day.

[NCDawg]

Agree, at this point, I don't see why Stricklin wouldn't just make a "proof is in the pudding" hire and make THE coach an offer he can't refuse.

Agree. It would be great to see an exciting brand of basketball again at the Hump. I remember driving up from Jackson in the 90's to watch Dampier, Wilson, Jones, Bullard, etc. play. That was real basketball back then.

[engie]

I'd make Shaka take the job if I was Strick. I'd give him $2M a year if needed just for that brand of basketball. It's a perfect time for an up and coming coach to take over an SEC program. The league is down considerably and could be easy to make a run in with just 5-7 decent players.

He's making $1.5 at VCU with a auto-extending 10, essentially 15, year contract. And all kinds of perks for every level of their program beyond that. It'd take closer to $3mil to buy him, and I'm not even sure he can be bought, as others have tried and failed...

[War Machine Dawg]

Agree, at this point, I don't see why Stricklin wouldn't just make a "proof is in the pudding" hire and make THE coach an offer he can't refuse.

Because when it comes to actually spending the cash we have, Strick is much closer to LT than the Ninja.

[War Machine Dawg]

I can't understand why we're sacrificing basketball. It's generally a low cost sport that can turn a decent amount of revenue, and God know LT part II is focused on making money above all else. outside of travel, it doesn't cost a lot to run a basketball team.

We've got the football and baseball program on cruise control right now, so why not make a major move in basketball and become a threat in all 3? If we don't make a MAJOR move at the end of this season, Strick should be relieved of his responsibilities. And if he doesn't show up to Keenum's door with an absolute rock star ready to take over the program, the coach should be "fired" before he's even hired and Strick should be asked to clean out his office that day.

I'm not saying it's the case, but IF there's only so much cash to go around for all the athletic programs, basketball makes by far the most sense to feel the pain. Football pays the freight, so they get what they want. Period. Baseball is our traditional power sport and will get what it wants. Period. Then you have to fund all the Title IX shit, track, etc. If one of the "Big 3" takes a hit, it makes the most sense from an MSU perspective for it to be basketball. Same for TSUN. They're best off pouring the cash into football and baseball.

[Political Hack]

I'm not saying it's the case, but IF there's only so much cash to go around for all the athletic programs, basketball makes by far the most sense to feel the pain. Football pays the freight, so they get what they want. Period. Baseball is our traditional power sport and will get what it wants. Period. Then you have to fund all the Title IX shit, track, etc. If one of the "Big 3" takes a hit, it makes the most sense from an MSU perspective for it to be basketball. Same for TSUN. They're best off pouring the cash into football and baseball.

if money is a problem for our programs, it's because we're mismanaging it, not due to a lack of it.