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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
    Being ranked #1 in interceptions, #2 in TFL, #5 in turnover margin and #16 in sacks cured my doubts.
    Yea, some would say more turnovers means more aggression, which leads to more big plays. Well....this year we had no aggression and STILL gave up a bunch of big plays. So I'll take the extra aggression over the big plays OM and others had against us, and the slow death we died against the Georgia Tech FB dive play. Bring on Manny's Mayhem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg61 View Post
    O waffling forces Mullen to look at Diaz closer and when you look at Diaz closer he appears to be the better hire. Happened to most of us too. At first I wanted O but then after looking at Diaz's rankings at LTech and that he knows how we work already and that the best part of O is his name and recruiting I think it quickly leans in Diaz favor as the better hire. Still want both though.
    I agree 100%

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    We've all been leaning to Manny coming back hat in hand....maybe Mullen had to swallow a little and "go after" Manny...I hope for Mannys sake he told Mullen to up the ante and he will think about coming back. Manny didn't have to "have" our job.

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    Orgeron is a piece of shit. If we hire him, he is still a piece of shit. He has displayed many times that he can't be trusted and that is why he doesn't really excite me.

    What he and Kiffin did at/to Tennessee was enough to keep me from trusting him. And wasn't he involved in Wilson running around recruiting for Tennessee on our dime? He would probably put it on Kiffin, but Wilson was orgeron's boy.

    We think he would really help our recruiting, but he could also really **** it up big time by taking another job and taking recruits with him. **** orgeron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CadaverDawg View Post
    Yea, some would say more turnovers means more aggression, which leads to more big plays. Well....this year we had no aggression and STILL gave up a bunch of big plays. So I'll take the extra aggression over the big plays OM and others had against us, and the slow death we died against the Georgia Tech FB dive play. Bring on Manny's Mayhem.
    I agree, but still wish we could get Orgeron for the DL and recruiting purposes. I guess we can't afford both of them, though.

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    Didn't O sign a contract with LSU before only to back out and go to Tennessee, or visa versa back in the day?

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    If coach O was openly waffling between us and LSU, then I don't want him anyway because he's to F-In stupid for the job in the first place...You never let a potential employer know your waiting on something better. You'll get your ass kicked to the curb everytime.

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    Still upset if Shannom was
    Never considered

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCDawg View Post
    I agree, but still wish we could get Orgeron for the DL and recruiting purposes. I guess we can't afford both of them, though.
    I agree. And if our AD is serious about competing for a Title, we should be able to afford both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheewgumm View Post
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    Chew, I'm not sure if this is true, but I'll share what I heard about Shannon...

    Supposedly he interviewed with Dan, and things went well....but Mullen just doesn't think he's the right fit. If that's true, I can live with that.

    Something tells me that he had too strong of a personality for Mullen. Shannon seems like a guy that thinks he is probably on the same level as Dan, so I can see why that may not work well. Truth is, Orgeron may be a little bit like that too....which could all play into the decision for Manny.

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    We may be waiting till the end of the week till we hear about the new DC. How things have played out so far, I doubt Manny is going to be the only guy Mullen interviews. Sounds like Mullen ripped up any deal with Coach O. I expect (and hope) a few more names pop up soon. I really don't want Manny "One and Done" Diaz back just so we can look for another DC next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CadaverDawg View Post
    Chew, I'm not sure if this is true, but I'll share what I heard about Shannon...

    Supposedly he interviewed with Dan, and things went well....but Mullen just doesn't think he's the right fit. If that's true, I can live with that.

    Something tells me that he had too strong of a personality for Mullen. Shannon seems like a guy that thinks he is probably on the same level as Dan, so I can see why that may not work well. Truth is, Orgeron may be a little bit like that too....which could all play into the decision for Manny.
    it takes a certain kind of person to regularly put up with temper tantrums coming from a grown @ss man.

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    Clarion Ledger reporting that Mullen will interview Diaz this week.

    Are we just now starting to interview candidates? Or is the CL just behind as always?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CadaverDawg View Post
    Chew, I'm not sure if this is true, but I'll share what I heard about Shannon...

    Supposedly he interviewed with Dan, and things went well....but Mullen just doesn't think he's the right fit. If that's true, I can live with that.

    Something tells me that he had too strong of a personality for Mullen. Shannon seems like a guy that thinks he is probably on the same level as Dan, so I can see why that may not work well. Truth is, Orgeron may be a little bit like that too....which could all play into the decision for Manny.
    I imagine it's difficult for a head coach to have someone on staff that was previously a head coach at a D1 program. Seems like Mullen was willing to put that aside for Orgeron which to me might be a sign of some willingness to change on Mullen's part. If Mullen is as arrogant as many think, you have to believe that working with a former HC would be very difficult for a guy like Mullen so that's something to be considered.

    And I agree Cadaver, if Mullen says a guy doesn't fit, you won't see me questioning him. For the most part he's moved the right pieces in building this program. Might have taken longer in some situations to get in what he wanted, but look at all the dead weight that has left the program because of Mullen. Torbush, Koenning, Melvin, Wilson the DC. And the additions to the program during his tenure that I think have been very good. Diaz 1.0, Gonzales, Brewster, Collins, Wilson as a DL coach, and Turner. They haven't been earth shattering moves but he has gradually figured out who fits what he wants and has upgraded at most every coaching position over time. Point is, I trust his judgment as to what's best for the program.

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    Thanks Cadaver. If that's it, then I'm ok with it. He should pick who he thinks is going to work. It's just my preference. It's his job to keep or lose.

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    I don't want to hear any waffling from you geezers when the new DC is announced and its NOT Manny!

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    If it's R Shannon, I'll celebrate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Op4isabitch View Post
    I don't want to hear any waffling from you geezers when the new DC is announced and its NOT Manny!
    If I choose to screw a waffle and it or me moans in absolute triumph, my geezer ass won't give a damn if you like it or not. I assume that is what you mean by 'waffling' right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cheewgumm View Post
    If it's R Shannon, I'll celebrate.
    Thank goodness it's not Randy Shannon.

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    I'm fine with Diaz and I think that is a good coach and will improve as a recruiter overtime. Hopefully this time around he will appreciate the opportunity that he has at State and will just jump ship like he did last time. He came into a dumpster fire of a situation at Texas but is doing a great job at La Tech.

    I just hope that we looked around more than at Coach O and Diaz.

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