Per BeastMan sources

[BeastMan]

2 different convos. 2 completely different sets of info.2 different guys. Both as close to each situation as you can get.


1.Fred Ross is a monster. A current teammate went as far as to call him "the truth". He is tearing up summer workouts making a huge impression.

2. Freeze has doubled down on his use of faith with MS kids. Not only that, he has the kids sold that Mullen has no Christian faith. Freeze is winning with the kids they have committed on the "Mullen isn't a Christian" line.


My takes on these:

1: Ross may be the jewel of this class; for immediate impact anyway. Every single report I've heard has him balling out but the convo I had last night I trust the most. I've read it from folks I don't know but now I don't doubt it at all.

2. I honestly have never had ill will toward any coach OM has ever had but I despise this Jesus act Freeze is putting on. Either be a 100% morals guy or be a slimeball, I don't care. He's doing great now but he's setting up for the ultimate "fall from grace" when he gets muddied up, which has happened to every SEC coach at some point. The part that really burns me up is that he doesn't just talk up his faith, he downs others faith. That is nowhere in the teachings of Jesus. It's a fraud. This point isn't up for debate either. He proved it in his first recruiting cycle with Richie Brown and his father. Luckily for MSU, they were intelligent enough to not fall for the Beni Hinn act.

[HereComesTheSpiral]

Can you provide examples about the richie brown recruitment for people that don't know what happened

[DiligenceDawg]

#1 is great news.

#2 is not, nor should it be surprising. I hope it is something all future coaches and administrators keep in mind when making hires. Your bread and butter is going to be in rural areas with the highest church going rates in the country. I hope we've got a way to discredit it but from the looks of it we don't. I'm not arguing that Freeze's approach is remotely ok, just that it is no more surprising than breaking all the rules on visits.

[gravedigger]

Any kid or potential student that wouldnt attend MSU because someone said that a coach has no Christian faith or isnt a Christian isnt smart enough to graduate high school and should not be welcome at MSU. World is full of suckers and they need to attend Ole Miss. I dont care if they are a 15 star football player. They are too stupid to be let outdoors.

Let him sell it. If they buy it, he helped us out.

[maroonmania]

2 different convos. 2 completely different sets of info.2 different guys. Both as close to each situation as you can get.


1.Fred Ross is a monster. A current teammate went as far as to call him "the truth". He is tearing up summer workouts making a huge impression.

2. Freeze has doubled down on his use of faith with MS kids. Not only that, he has the kids sold that Mullen has no Christian faith. Freeze is winning with the kids they have committed on the "Mullen isn't a Christian" line.


My takes on these:

1: Ross may be the jewel of this class; for immediate impact anyway. Every single report I've heard has him balling out but the convo I had last night I trust the most. I've read it from folks I don't know but now I don't doubt it at all.

2. I honestly have never had ill will toward any coach OM has ever had but I despise this Jesus act Freeze is putting on. Either be a 100% morals guy or be a slimeball, I don't care. He's doing great now but he's setting up for the ultimate "fall from grace" when he gets muddied up, which has happened to every SEC coach at some point. The part that really burns me up is that he doesn't just talk up his faith, he downs others faith. That is nowhere in the teachings of Jesus. It's a fraud. This point isn't up for debate either. He proved it in his first recruiting cycle with Richie Brown and his father. Luckily for MSU, they were intelligent enough to not fall for the Beni Hinn act.

On #2 - he would have to be selling the Christian act to the parents because all I see being sold to the recruits on OVs to OM is loose women and a big party scene (just ask Chris Jones). I doubt the vast majority of the recruits they are getting could care one way or the other if Freeze is a Christian or not but the Mommas do and that is who Freeze is selling. So likely simultaneous while the recruit is partying down and being "serviced" on the official visit Freeze is visiting with the parents telling them all the great Christian values he is going to teach their son while he is at OM. Its all sickening to me.

[Political Hack]

Can you provide examples about the richie brown recruitment for people that don't know what happened

may not get the exact words right, but in effect he told Richie "I fear for your soul if you go to Mississippi State."

[Will James]

Any kid or potential student that wouldnt attend MSU because someone said that a coach has no Christian faith or isnt a Christian

Think about mama

[Rick Danko]

So let me get this straight

Freeze: "Momma, he is not a christian, that I can promise you. Just ask him"
Momma: "Ok Rev Freeze I sure will."

Momma: "Mr. Mullen, are you a christian because Rev Freeze says you aren't"
Mullen: "Of course I am, that is ridiculous."
Momma: "Sorry, I don't believe you cause Rev Freeze says so"

That has got to be the biggest load of horse shit I have ever heard. Not calling anyone out for stating it but cmon now, you really think this is a recruiting strategy that works? If it is, I agree that those who fall for it do not need to be at our school any damn way.

[FISHDAWG]

wonder what happens when the parents attend the OV with the recruit ... someone must be distracting the folks while the party rolls on - you know they never lost a party dont you

[FISHDAWG]

Dan doesn't do much to temper his language

[msugolf]

Hugh should tread lightly on speaking ill of others' deeds/morals. I'd hate for "rumors" to leak out on one of his former briarcrest student/babysitter.

[HereComesTheSpiral]

may not get the exact words right, but in effect he told Richie "I fear for your soul if you go to Mississippi State."

Damn, that's low as hell if true, I would be tempted to knock those tree choppers out of his head if he disrespected me in my house like that.

[Political Hack]

Hugh should tread lightly on speaking ill of others' deeds/morals. I'd hate for "rumors" to leak out on one of his former briarcrest student/babysitter.

would be a black day for freeze if it were to come out to be true.

[HereComesTheSpiral]

And if the parents are gullible enough to buy #2, well I have some beach front property in Arizona for sale.

[HereComesTheSpiral]

would be a black day for freeze if it were to come out to be true.

Come on

America loves a good **** up trying to rebuild their lives story.

[Political Hack]

Come on

America loves a good **** up trying to rebuild their lives story.

they'd probably make a movie about it.

[msugolf]

would be a black day for freeze if it were to come out.

Fixed it for ya.

[msstate7]

Come on

America loves a good **** up trying to rebuild their lives story.

Not when it's a grown man banging a teenage girl. This isn't an Evan gattis story...

[RBritt]

Change of subject but can I hear or get a link to the Evan Gattis story.

[msstate7]

Change of subject but can I hear or get a link to the Evan Gattis story.

http://m.usatoday.com/article/news/2122585

Mobile site