If we're so hopelessly poor that it doesn't matter who our coach is...

[Todd4State]

It's also fascinating how most Lebby fans were huge Leach Haters who wanted to fire him after 2021 and said that if he lost the Egg Bowl in 2022, he should be fired even if he was 11-1 because winning the Egg Bowl is that important ... but not a peep from any of those people after Lebby is 0-2 in Egg Bowls.

Yep. Big time Leach hater here.*******

Funny I've been accused of liking him too much and now I hate him by MSU fans in the span of a week.

[Coach34]

Bull. Ѕhit.

That's insane. Please find some of those posts.

[Todd4State]

We got BOC specifically because we vowed to fund the program at an even higher rate

Until we spend like an SEC team in football- we wont see the results we desire.

Sure but we were already supporting baseball very well before.

[Quaoarsking]

I don't think you are intentionally doing it. I think you just don't know what the hell you are talking about.

And then to try to call out the people that know how to fix the program- yeah that's not going to fly.

I know that our "coach" laid another egg yesterday in a winnable game, one that the team was completely unprepared for and apparently still hungover at 8 PM. I know that he's now 2-17 with no sign of ever turning the corner.

I know that the vast majority of our fans don't think that's acceptable, and even the ones who claim that it is don't really have any counterarguments beyond just flinging insults.

[Todd4State]

You're living under a rock if you think the fanbase supports Lebby. Open your eyes. Even on this message board, it's overwhelmingly anti-Lebby, and it's worse everywhere else. Go check social media comments. Go talk to people in real life. Hardly anyone thinks Lebby is doing well.

And if he does well in the portal and wins the opinion will improve. We'll see what happens but about 2 weeks from now I have a feeling the opinion will improve.

It's not bad enough to where MSU is going to fire him at this point no matter how bad you want it to be.

[Quaoarsking]

That's insane. Please find some of those posts.

Just search "Leach fired" up in the top left and read through the whole threads

https://www.elitedawgs.com/showthrea...ht=leach+fired
https://www.elitedawgs.com/showthrea...ht=leach+fired
https://www.elitedawgs.com/showthrea...ht=leach+fired

[Todd4State]

I know that our "coach" laid another egg yesterday in a winnable game, one that the team was completely unprepared for and apparently still hungover at 8 PM. I know that he's now 2-17 with no sign of ever turning the corner.

I know that the vast majority of our fans don't think that's acceptable, and even the ones who claim that it is don't really have any counterarguments beyond just flinging insults.

We lost to an 8 win team. You expected our offensive line and defense to magically get better because Arnett was attending practices or something? It was a one possession game in the fourth quarter. Bad players look bad. You on the other hand by your own admission accused our team of partying without any knowledge or evidence. Losing wasn't out of the realm of possibility at all.

[Quaoarsking]

We lost to an 8 win team. You expected our offensive line and defense to magically get better because Arnett was attending practices or something? It was a one possession game in the fourth quarter. Bad players look bad. You on the other hand by your own admission accused our team of partying without any knowledge or evidence. Losing wasn't out of the realm of possibility at all.

Come on, man. You really think that was what I was saying?

Wake Forest was an 8-win ACC team, yet all of computer models and the Vegas odds favored us, and the computer models weren't taking into account that Wake had a lot more opt-outs. A loss wasn't out of question (bowl games are always funny), but it was the near-unanimous opinion of all the boards (not just me) that we looked totally unprepared, and the fact that we had multiple players with dehydration issues has to raise some red flags.

If Lebby had been good all year, I could chalk this up to a bowl game fluke, but when it's part of pattern, it's hard to ignore.

[Coach34]

Just search "Leach fired" up in the top left and read through the whole threads

https://www.elitedawgs.com/showthrea...ht=leach+fired
https://www.elitedawgs.com/showthrea...ht=leach+fired
https://www.elitedawgs.com/showthrea...ht=leach+fired

ahhhh, a few emotional posts after losing to Mississippi. Gotcha. Didnt think it was some big serious thoughts that went on for days. Didnt remember anything like that

[Todd4State]

Come on, man. You really think that was what I was saying?

Wake Forest was an 8-win ACC team, yet all of computer models and the Vegas odds favored us, and the computer models weren't taking into account that Wake had a lot more opt-outs. A loss wasn't out of question (bowl games are always funny), but it was the near-unanimous opinion of all the boards (not just me) that we looked totally unprepared, and the fact that we had multiple players with dehydration issues has to raise some red flags.

If Lebby had been good all year, I could chalk this up to a bowl game fluke, but when it's part of pattern, it's hard to ignore.

The only pattern is our offensive line and defense being trash. And KT playing like a freshman. No one wants to hear it but if Shapen plays we might have won.

Next year will be a different team and Lebby's success will be determined by how we do in the portal.

[Todd4State]

ahhhh, a few emotional posts after losing to Mississippi. Gotcha. Didnt think it was some big serious thoughts that went on for days. Didnt remember anything like that

You mean like today?** Who would have thought that fan opinion on a coach would be less than favorable after a loss?**

[Quaoarsking]

No one wants to hear it but if Shapen plays we might have won.

Yes, at the very least, it would have been nice to have him for the plays where we had to put in LK near the goal line and settle for a FG.

Too bad Shapen quit on the team. (Or even worse if as someone claimed yesterday, he was willing to come to Charlotte but Lebby told him not to bother.)

[BlackSailsDawg]

What in the world do you think he can plausibly show next year to overcome the huge whole he himself has dug?

There is no HOLE that he has dug. Lebby will be your coach next year. He's going to be your coach the following year too. Get use to it.

[BlackSailsDawg]

The thing is you don't offer anything constructive to fix it.

The people you say that are "defending" Lebby are all basically telling you how to fix it. But somehow "you just want to win and this is unacceptable" but when someone tells you to donate money to the program you get all bitchy. That's why people tell you "**** you". You really don't care. You just don't want Lebby here because of what his father in law did. That's more important to you than winning. So spare me the bullshit.

If you want someone other than Lebby that's fine. We can fire him today and I wouldn't give a shit. Hell if we brought in Dan and least we can get that out of our fans system and then Arnett would be gone. So if you want him gone go find some boosters like those dumbasses in Madison that got us in this spot to start with. Go ahead. Make it happen. I just told you how to get rid of Lebby. What a loyalist I am.**

But don't tell me that you only want to win when you aren't really willing to do what it takes to do it which is give money and you're trying to do everything you can do to hurt MSU football but you are too ignorant to realize it because you're blinded by your hate by Lebby.

Oh SNAP!! PREACH IT TODD!!!!! AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Quaoarsking]

There is no HOLE that he has dug. Lebby will be your coach next year. He's going to be your coach the following year too. Get use to it.

You're in uncharted territory with that one. It's too far out on a limb for the rest of the Lebby supporters here.

[BlackSailsDawg]

...
What??

I have said repeatedly that we need to change head coaches to someone who our boosters will be more interested in funding. Nobody thinks that paying into Mississippi State football is a good investment right now. Yes, some will do it anyway because they're diehard fans, but we saw a few months ago in baseball how a coaching change can suddenly open people's pocketbooks.


I've always said that Lebby is not responsible for his creep father-in-law's actions. I've never held him responsible for that. I think Lebby's own actions during that scandal are pretty sketchy, but in a world where Chris Beard can go from beating the hell out of his wife to head coach of Ole Miss in 3 months, it's just something that fans everywhere have to make themselves OK with it.


Apparently not...


I have donated what I can comfortably afford. I wish I were a millionaire or billionaire, but sadly I'm not. I don't know what more I can personally do, other than make it clear that the vast majority of the fanbase wants him gone.

No no no. Todd is right. You do nothing but try to cause a fake outrage and claim you "Speak" for the majority of fans. You don't. You don't have a pulse on the situation. You are not the MSU FAN Spokes person. You run from board to board to proclaim the fans want Lebby gone trying to sow discord as if you are fighting some religious and righteous battle that God himself appointed you to do.

[Pancho]

I still think he is here for several more years and 6 wins will be tops in any given season.

[Turfdawg67]

Just search "Leach fired" up in the top left and read through the whole threads

https://www.elitedawgs.com/showthrea...ht=leach+fired
https://www.elitedawgs.com/showthrea...ht=leach+fired
https://www.elitedawgs.com/showthrea...ht=leach+fired

Looks like the same guys that want Lebby fired. Lol. Most of the threads are defending him. Now do DM

[Turfdawg67]

No no no. Todd is right. You do nothing but try to cause a fake outrage and claim you "Speak" for the majority of fans. You don't. You don't have a pulse on the situation. You are not the MSU FAN Spokes person. You run from board to board to proclaim the fans want Lebby gone trying to sow discord as if you are fighting some religious and righteous battle that God himself appointed you to do.

It's called projecting.

[Quaoarsking]

No no no. Todd is right. You do nothing but try to cause a fake outrage and claim you "Speak" for the majority of fans. You don't. You don't have a pulse on the situation. You are not the MSU FAN Spokes person. You run from board to board to proclaim the fans want Lebby gone trying to sow discord as if you are fighting some religious and righteous battle that God himself appointed you to do.

I (along with lots of others) "run from board to board" and see that almost everyone wants him gone. EliteDawgs is the only one that has more than just a tiny handful of Lebby supporters, but it's still a majority here who wishes we would make the change.

You're asking to trust you over my lyin' eyes.