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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    If Lebby wants to change DCs and is asking them to pay for the guy he wants, then fine. But if Lebby wants to keep Hutzler, then he should be able to do that. It's just that Lebby and Hutz will both suffer the consequences if he can't cut it next year.

    I don't like the idea of boosters forcing a coach to do it their way. Pick the coach and let him do it how he wants to.
    There is a real world that you are missing out on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coursesuper View Post
    There is a real world that you are missing out on.
    If Lebby has to be told to change DCs, then how can anyone funding the program have any faith in him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    If Lebby has to be told to change DCs, then how can anyone funding the program have any faith in him?
    It if the financiers tell the AD to tell Lebby to fire the defensive staff or they withhold funding the department, and then the AD tells them to stick it where the sun don?t shine, we will be looking for an AD and a new Coaching Staff!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    If Lebby has to be told to change DCs, then how can anyone funding the program have any faith in him?
    Dude the black and white world you are searching for doesn’t exist. It’s all shades of gray and that’s the way it is. You have a hard on for the guy and that is entirely your purgative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainObvious View Post
    It if the financiers tell the AD to tell Lebby to fire the defensive staff or they withhold funding the department, and then the AD tells them to stick it where the sun don?t shine, we will be looking for an AD and a new Coaching Staff!
    As it should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Why would we be bringing in Kendall Briles if we're going to fire Lebby?

    The only way I would fire Lebby would be if someone like Saban was begging for our job. I highly doubt that's the case.
    We have always been the apple of Saban's eye!

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    Like I said, I do not think it gets to the firing point, because I do not believe those conversations have even occurred. But today was not good, and we have some big money boosters who would rather go 1-11 and beat OM than 11-1 with a loss to them.
    Well, that's ****ing stupid. 11-1 we'd be in the GD playoffs...like OM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    If Lebby has to be told to change DCs, then how can anyone funding the program have any faith in him?
    Keith Carter gave KIFFIN a time frame and said “by this date.” You think we aren’t telling Lebby who to hire?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeardoMSU View Post
    Well, that's ****ing stupid. 11-1 we'd be in the GD playoffs...like OM.
    I mean it starts at the top with a president who would MUCH RATHER beat OM than have a good season.And I mean fair or not, we have a lot of boosters that grew up where beating OM was the season. We were both usually around the same record so that is how a successful season was judged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    I mean it starts at the top with a president who would MUCH RATHER beat OM than have a good season.And I mean fair or not, we have a lot of boosters that grew up where beating OM was the season. We were both usually around the same record so that is how a successful season was judged.
    Devil's advocate here. How much better would 2014 and 2015 for that matter have been with an Egg Bowl victory?

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    I will fully admit I might not fully get the Ole Miss hate because I don?t live in the area, but I would rather win 9 or 10 games like we did in 2024,2015,2017 and 2022 than beat ole Miss and be terrible

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    Quote Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG View Post
    I will fully admit I might not fully get the Ole Miss hate because I don?t live in the area, but I would rather win 9 or 10 games like we did in 2024,2015,2017 and 2022 than beat ole Miss and be terrible
    My preference is to have an 9-10 win season and win the Egg Bowl. It has happened before. 1980, 1999, 2010, 2022

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    Its simple but not easy. Get a better staff and better players and we will win. Lebby isnt perfect but he is good enough to win with equal or close to equal talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    Dude we aren't firing Lebby. Good grief. It's not remotely gonna happen. Stop.
    He literally said... "I am not saying that we are firing Lebby or that those types conversations have even been broached" WTF??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Devil's advocate here. How much better would 2014 and 2015 for that matter have been with an Egg Bowl victory?
    In 14 you finish 11-1 and are either the first team out of the playoffs or the last team in

    In 15 you finish 9-3 and go to the Sugar Bowl.

    Those types years are kind of what I was talking about with the years OM and us were the same, that is how we judged a successful season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    My preference is to have an 9-10 win season and win the Egg Bowl. It has happened before. 1980, 1999, 2010, 2022
    Look how spread out those years are, 42 between number 1 and 4... sad and pathetic. OM just did that in 2023, 2024 and 2025.
    Last edited by Turfdawg67; 11-28-2025 at 11:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg View Post
    If we're making these staff changes, count me enthusiastically in for one more year for Lebby. Need to make sure the DC, DL, and OL coach hires are all top notch. Where's Hev nowadays? Throw an OL Brinks truck at him to get him back. I don't care if he doesn't want to recruit, the sumbitch can flat coach an OL.
    This is peak insanity

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lance Harbor View Post
    This is peak insanity
    Man, Hev had some damn good lines. He was an asshole to players and fans alike but he could field an OL and we never had bad OLs with him. His players also would run through a brick wall for him. Hell he took a line of an MAIS walk on, 2 MAIS 3 stars, a 3 star from Louisiana, and a 3 star from Mobile and they were one of the best lines in the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    Man, Hev had some damn good lines. He was an asshole to players and fans alike but he could field an OL and we never had bad OLs with him. His players also would run through a brick wall for him. Hell he took a line of an MAIS walk on, 2 MAIS 3 stars, a 3 star from Louisiana, and a 3 star from Mobile and they were one of the best lines in the country.
    Exactly. He made walk-on Ben Beckwith an All-SEC caliber player. Games are won and lost in the trenches. An OL coach the quality of Hev is worth 1-2 wins. I don't care how many people he pisses off. That's pretty much every good offensive line coach ever. They're a different breed.

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    According to SECrant as of last year. There is a photo of Heb in a Lowe's uniform working. If that is true kinda crazy.

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