This post is extremely out of character for me, but here it is....

[1eyedog]

All I know is the "DOGS" second year coach that inherited a minuscule talented team is two last second plays from possibly being 6-1. Throwing the ball downfield is GREAT, a couple of VERY promising running backs and most amazing to me (I'm eating crow) is a def coordinator that I really questioned the hiring of and keeping him has a DOG defense playing pretty d### well. IF....”IF" Lebby can hold the team together and possibly pull off and EB and one other win......which is possible.......I just don?t see how you can argue. For some reason.......I see alot of positives with all the negatives......I?m not always like this......GO DOGS

[justwin]

We do not need to fire Lebby. Not at all. Learning how to win is tough....teaching a team how to win is tough....especially if you've never been a head coach, and especially learning how to do it in THIS league.

Look, I'm the most emotional State fan ever, and I was once again devastated and saying I hate being a State fan when we lost, but after cooling off it's fairly easy for me to say that Lebby is a guy we can win with long term. But we just have to get over the hump.

If we run Ferrie out there and come up just short, we're all asking why we went too conservative when we needed to be closer. Did I agree with the call? No not really. But the call wasn't nearly as bad as the veteran QB's decision. I'm pissed at Shapen more than Lebby. A veteran QB can't do that. Also can't miss wide open TD's on the road, and can't be a statue some plays while iladvisedly running it on others. Our QB play is hurting us, but I don't necessarily know that Kamario is going to be better. Shapen can be sharp, but can make some awful decisions.

We can't fire another coach right now, and I think Lebby will win one this year, possibly next weekend. Not only does the team have to learn how to win, our coach does too. But winning is contagious, and I feel like once we get a SEC win we can possibly string a few together.

In the past I would have been on either the Fire Lebby train or the Free Kamario train, or both....but I'm not there yet. I think you let Shapen go out and try to redeem himself against Texas, and we keep fighting to create a winning culture. Get that monkey off our back in the SEC and then take a breath and start trying to achieve the next goal of a bowl game.

You have to admit the over haul of the lineup has been a net positive, so let's give the guy some time. It's not like we want to get in the coaching circus THIS year of all years. Talk about getting the leftovers...we'd end up hiring down.

I'm all for supporting Lebby and seeing if we can find a way to win a SEC game and then it's root for a bowl game. May not be likely, but who knows...maybe we beat Texas and then ruin the Rebs season....might as well hope, bc firing Lebby this year seems like a bad idea to me.

I'm more worried about the guys in the locker room losing hope, but if he's able to keep them fighting.....then I'm in too. Learning to win ain't easy...but it's contagious once you do. Look at Vandy. In this day and age we can't just fire a coach every two years. Can't believe I'm saying this but be patient...that's my opinion.

no one in their right mind thinks it's lebby. the problem is a "experienced" player at qb log jamming the depth chart.

[Coach34]

no one in their right mind thinks it's lebby. the problem is a "experienced" player at qb log jamming the depth chart.

But you dont play a true Freshman thats not ready because of that. You grind it out and get better in the Spring. We have no chance to beat Texas with KT. We have a chance to win Saturday with Plastic Man

[MoreCowbell]

But you dont play a true Freshman thats not ready because of that. You grind it out and get better in the Spring. We have no chance to beat Texas with KT. We have a chance to win Saturday with Plastic Man

Saw you said KT is like Van Buren last year with better legs. Do you mean physical tools wise only because that description sounds pretty damn good right now compared to Shapen. Is he just mentally behind football IQ wise?

[Bothrops]

We do not need to fire Lebby. Not at all. Learning how to win is tough....teaching a team how to win is tough....especially if you've never been a head coach, and especially learning how to do it in THIS league.

Look, I'm the most emotional State fan ever, and I was once again devastated and saying I hate being a State fan when we lost, but after cooling off it's fairly easy for me to say that Lebby is a guy we can win with long term. But we just have to get over the hump.

If we run Ferrie out there and come up just short, we're all asking why we went too conservative when we needed to be closer. Did I agree with the call? No not really. But the call wasn't nearly as bad as the veteran QB's decision. I'm pissed at Shapen more than Lebby. A veteran QB can't do that. Also can't miss wide open TD's on the road, and can't be a statue some plays while iladvisedly running it on others. Our QB play is hurting us, but I don't necessarily know that Kamario is going to be better. Shapen can be sharp, but can make some awful decisions.

We can't fire another coach right now, and I think Lebby will win one this year, possibly next weekend. Not only does the team have to learn how to win, our coach does too. But winning is contagious, and I feel like once we get a SEC win we can possibly string a few together.

In the past I would have been on either the Fire Lebby train or the Free Kamario train, or both....but I'm not there yet. I think you let Shapen go out and try to redeem himself against Texas, and we keep fighting to create a winning culture. Get that monkey off our back in the SEC and then take a breath and start trying to achieve the next goal of a bowl game.

You have to admit the over haul of the lineup has been a net positive, so let's give the guy some time. It's not like we want to get in the coaching circus THIS year of all years. Talk about getting the leftovers...we'd end up hiring down.

I'm all for supporting Lebby and seeing if we can find a way to win a SEC game and then it's root for a bowl game. May not be likely, but who knows...maybe we beat Texas and then ruin the Rebs season....might as well hope, bc firing Lebby this year seems like a bad idea to me.

I'm more worried about the guys in the locker room losing hope, but if he's able to keep them fighting.....then I'm in too. Learning to win ain't easy...but it's contagious once you do. Look at Vandy. In this day and age we can't just fire a coach every two years. Can't believe I'm saying this but be patient...that's my opinion.

I'm not in the fire Lebby club. I think that club is pretty small at the moment but will certainly grow with a loss this weekend. Our schedule doesn't get any easier than this weekend, so it's time to get that slump buster.

[msstate7]

Saw you said KT is like Van Buren last year with better legs. Do you mean physical tools wise only because that description sounds pretty damn good right now compared to Shapen. Is he just mentally behind football IQ wise?

Interestingly, MVB had a 63.1 QBR last season. Shapen has a 57.3 QBR this season.

[Pancho]

MVB should start at LSU but Kelly is sinking the ship

[bulldawg28]

Interestingly, MVB had a 63.1 QBR last season. Shapen has a 57.3 QBR this season.

We'd have one loss with Van Buren right now. I'm not certain Van Buren wouldn't have beaten A&M

[Coach34]

Saw you said KT is like Van Buren last year with better legs. Do you mean physical tools wise only because that description sounds pretty damn good right now compared to Shapen. Is he just mentally behind football IQ wise?

Van Buren is talented and is going to be a good college QB. I think BK is being hardheaded and should have at least given him some time in games when they struggled. But last year VB was sacked 27 times- many because he held the ball too long trying to make a decision. Which as a true freshman- is not a knock or surprising. He also threw 11 TD's but 7 picks. Only 54.7% completion percentage. It would alot of that with KT altho he does run the ball better than VB

[Coach34]

We'd have one loss with Van Buren right now. I'm not certain Van Buren wouldn't have beaten A&M

I cant say you are wrong. Its speculation but our record certainly wouldnt be worse

[tcdog70]

why not just give KT a shot. let Him run whatever part of the playbook he knows. If he sucks-well then everyone can shut up. But maybe he would be better than Shapen. To keep running Shapen out there and Him keep on sucking is just stupid. Then you have the argument of the Fla. St Qb. Shapen is what his numbers says He is. The bottom of the SEC.

[TrapGame]

why not just give KT a shot. let Him run whatever part of the playbook he knows. If he sucks-well then everyone can shut up. But maybe he would be better than Shapen. To keep running Shapen out there and Him keep on sucking is just stupid. Then you have the argument of the Fla. St Qb. Shapen is what his numbers says He is. The bottom of the SEC.

If Kamario was better than Shapen he would be starting now. Lebby sent him out there Saturday with an RPO. He kept it instead of handing it off to Booth or attempting a pass to an open Thompson. He got two yards on the play. He is not ready at all.

[tcdog70]

If Kamario was better than Shapen he would be starting now. Lebby sent him out there Saturday with an RPO. He kept it instead of handing it off to Booth or attempting a pass to an open Thompson. He got two yards on the play. He is not ready at all.

he also sent Him out there and he scored our first TD. Shapen came in ran the same RPO and did the same thing as KT. If he is going to be our future-it is time to let Him play-$hit he has been through a spring training and a fall and 6 games--He needs to play. Shapen sucks.

[TrapGame]

he also sent Him out there and he scored our first TD. Shapen came in ran the same RPO and did the same thing as KT. If he is going to be our future-it is time to let Him play-$hit he has been through a spring training and a fall and 6 games--He needs to play. Shapen sucks.

If you cannot understand at this point in time Shapen is the best QB we have then I cannot help you.

Everybody bitching about Lebby now is going to go ape shit when Kamario does nothing but tucks the ball and runs or takes sacks because he cannot process the game at this speed. He is not Trevor Lawrence.

[msstate7]

takes sacks

If KT or Luke played, we'd probably have the worst qb in the sec... instead of the 2nd to worst.

[HoopsDawg]

If you cannot understand at this point in time Shapen is the best QB we have then I cannot help you.

Everybody bitching about Lebby now is going to go ape shit when Kamario does nothing but tucks the ball and runs or takes sacks because he cannot process the game at this speed. He is not Trevor Lawrence.

This all day.

[Quaoarsking]

If Van Buren would have us at 6-1 now, that's a pretty bad indictment on Lebby and our entire NIL operation to let him walk in favor of Shapen. (Or arguably, in favor of Jackson Arnold and then not even getting him either.)

[tcdog70]

If you cannot understand at this point in time Shapen is the best QB we have then I cannot help you.

Everybody bitching about Lebby now is going to go ape shit when Kamario does nothing but tucks the ball and runs or takes sacks because he cannot process the game at this speed. He is not Trevor Lawrence.

If you can't understand KT is doing what he is Coached to do. All I'm saying is give him a chance and let's see what happens. I know KT can throw the ball. Once again Shapen ain't the answer, so at least try someone else. if a right tackle sucks then they try someone else. So why not a QB.You can always put Shapen back in.

[DownwardDawg]

If you can't understand KT is doing what he is Coached to do. All I'm saying is give him a chance and let's see what happens. I know KT can throw the ball. Once again Shapen ain't the answer, so at least try someone else. if a right tackle sucks then they try someone else. So why not a QB.You can always put Shapen back in.

Your first sentence is wrong. He was given a possession. He had RPO option on all 3 snaps and he tucked and ran all three times. He showed Lebby exactly what Lebby already knew.
I'm hoping he's ready for next year but starting to wonder.

[TrapGame]

If you can't understand KT is doing what he is Coached to do. All I'm saying is give him a chance and let's see what happens. I know KT can throw the ball. Once again Shapen ain't the answer, so at least try someone else. if a right tackle sucks then they try someone else. So why not a QB.You can always put Shapen back in.

He had his series at Florida and screwed the pooch.

In your mind you think this kid is gonna go out there and light a fire. He is not.

And if you think Kamario is - coached - to go out there and make bad decisions then you do not understand as much as you think you do.