This post is extremely out of character for me, but here it is....

[DownwardDawg]

What I am reading here is the exact same thing I was reading back in 2024 when half of us wanted Lemonis fired after a second straight horrible season once he got HIS players in. Coach 34 kept saying ?he gets next year and if he fails he will be fired. So we wasted an entire year aGAIN. So heck, it worked out so well for baseball, let?s go ahead and give the 0-16 in SEC Football Coach another year, and if he screws it up aGAIN, THEN we will fire him and start over probably with a Current Special Teams Coach as our New head coach because : Po? Ol? MissippiState!!

Now wait a minute, if it works out the same way as it did in baseball, that means we'll keep him another year and suck once again, but then we'll hire Saban or maybe Kiffin away from ole Miss. I'm down!!!

[DownwardDawg]

He isn?t though?he called a game yesterday that should?ve had been a blow out had his players finished plays. Had his QB made the right read against UT in OT, he wins that game. Should be 6-1 right now, 2-1 in conference. And you all would be afraid we would lose him anyway.

Funny how that works. I'm as pissed right now as I've ever been as a State fan, but you're not wrong. Shapen makes one of those easy TD throws and it's a 10-17 point win on the road. We would all be talking about how we are 5-2 with a lot of hope left. Ole Miss is 6-1. We would be 1 game different from them after playing a much harder schedule.

[tcdog70]

It would be stupid to fire Lebby. Any idiot can see we are much improved. But Lebby does make some stupid moves. Not just kicking the FG, Five yards wasn’t going to make a difference.. Leaving Fluff in , Not at least letting KT have a chance , not just running the ball after the fake punt, to just name a few.It is clear Shapen ain’t it. Time Togo with KT. Damn today’s QBs have helmets that allow a coach to talk to them. Who scored our first TD? KT, Shapen wouldn’t have scored. FREE KAMARIO.

[OhGee]

Good post, CD. We are very close to being 6-1 and the turnaround from last year is huge.

It?s frustrating as hell. I get it. I am glad most of you don?t make AD decisions.

[DownwardDawg]

It would be stupid to fire Lebby. Any idiot can see we are much improved. But Lebby does make some stupid moves. Not just kicking the FG, Five yards wasn’t going to make a difference.. Leaving Fluff in , Not at least letting KT have a chance , not just running the ball after the fake punt, to just name a few.It is clear Shapen ain’t it. Time Togo with KT. Damn today’s QBs have helmets that allow a coach to talk to them. Who scored our first TD? KT, Shapen wouldn’t have scored. FREE KAMARIO.

I just don't think KT would ever have us in position to win that game. You pointed out he scored our first TD. How did we get down there? KT can't even recognize to hand the ball off instead of keeping it.
I have been so excited about KT, but now I'm worried he may take a lot longer to develop.

[Coach34]

What I am reading here is the exact same thing I was reading back in 2024 when half of us wanted Lemonis fired after a second straight horrible season once he got HIS players in. Coach 34 kept saying ?he gets next year and if he fails he will be fired. So we wasted an entire year aGAIN. So heck, it worked out so well for baseball, let?s go ahead and give the 0-16 in SEC Football Coach another year, and if he screws it up aGAIN, THEN we will fire him and start over probably with a Current Special Teams Coach as our New head coach because : Po? Ol? MissippiState!!

We got a huge boost in money to baseball this Spring to do the things we did. When that happens in football we will get better there also.

[Coach34]

I just don't think KT would ever have us in position to win that game. You pointed out he scored our first TD. How did we get down there? KT can't even recognize to hand the ball off instead of keeping it.
I have been so excited about KT, but now I'm worried he may take a lot longer to develop.

KT is Van Buren last year with better legs

[MBDawg601]

I think of it this way... Major corporations are not going to give someone that is leading the company years to stop making bad decisions. You get a few to learn from followed by some tough discussion and if you keep making them they replace your ass. I am not sure why some of you act like Lebby is not making millions to keep making poor decisions. That is exactly how we got here. People at the top making shit decisions on hiring, followed by shit decisions from the ones they hired.

Are we improved? Sure. Still winless in the SEC though and the perception of MSU Football has not changed. We are the worst team in the conference.

Lebby has had more than a handful of bad calls. Game altering calls. He should be held accountable.

[Coursesuper]

We got a huge boost in money to baseball this Spring to do the things we did. When that happens in football we will get better there also.

There is so much more about this than our own know. Baseball is pretty much funded by those that have been in or very close to the program for a long long time. The reason that this situation exists is due to continuity and stability in the organization for a very long time. That isn?t a perfect situation because a lot of the people that are involved again stayed away for a long time for one very good reason. They all knew that MF. They knew better than to trust him and they stayed away from him and any part of the program that he had any hand in. With all of that finally flushed out the ones that had been staying away came back asking how can they help. Now we have to try very very hard to build the same continuity with the football program and build that financial support system to keep us in the mix. Good things happen slowly, bad things happen fast. I?m very happy that our administration is in for the long game now and not making spur of the moment decisions.

[DownwardDawg]

KT is Van Buren last year with better legs

That's interesting. If he's as good as Van Buren why aren't we seeing him get opportunities with more options?

[HancockCountyDog]

Has he always been this retarded?

15 straight SEC losses affects everyone differently.

Callling for Lebbys head is silly, but I get being frustrated.

[msstate7]

15 straight SEC losses affects everyone differently.

Callling for Lebbys head is silly, but I get being frustrated.

Just so we're clear - I'm not calling for him head now. I'm of the opinion that we will go 0-8 in the sec, and when/if that happens, he has to be fired, period. Can anyone give me an example or a successful HC that has started their career winless in conference for their first 2 years? If there's an example, I might reconsider

[CadaverDawg]

Just so we're clear - I'm not calling for him head now. I'm of the opinion that we will go 0-8 in the sec, and when/if that happens, he has to be fired, period. Can anyone give me an example or a successful HC that has started their career winless in conference for their first 2 years? If there's an example, I might reconsider

So you're both guaranteeing he goes winless and saying he should be fired when he does, while also saying "I'm not calling for it NOW"....but you basically are. So just go ahead and commit that he isn't going to win another game and go all in on firing him now. Can't have it both ways

[msstate7]

So you're both guaranteeing he goes winless and saying he should be fired when he does, while also saying "I'm not calling for it NOW"....but you basically are. So just go ahead and commit that he isn't going to win another game and go all in on firing him now. Can't have it both ways

No, if he wins a game - 1 damn sec game, I'm cool with bringing him back. I want him to succeed, but if he goes 0-16, there's no redemption for that. Who is your example of a coach that went winless his first 2 seasons and had a good career. Give me any example to dream ok

[CadaverDawg]

Lebby beat a ranked opponent already this year. Has a winning record as I type this. Had a lead late on Tennessee. Had a shot at beating Florida on the road.

Stop getting hung up on "SEC record" in the toughest conference in football for a second, and realize that had anyone given you the paragraph I just typed before the season started and a 4-3 record at this point with a legit shot at beating Texas....every single one of us takes it.

Bottom line, if we simply kick the FG and win (or miss it even) we are all ecstatic about Lebby. And even after the horrible decision and loss yesterday, we will all be back on the Lebby train if he beats Texas. So don't be a prisoner of the moment and let one awful decision shape your mindset. If it becomes a pattern and he loses the team, I'm sure we will all be in unison on his firing. But we 100% aren't there yet. And I think anyone that has taken a breath from yesterday realizes that

[msstate7]

Lebby beat a ranked opponent already this year. Has a winning record as I type this. Had a lead late on Tennessee. Had a shot at beating Florida on the road.

Stop getting hung up on "SEC record" in the toughest conference in football for a second, and realize that had anyone given you the paragraph I just typed before the season started and a 4-3 record at this point with a legit shot at beating Texas....every single one of us takes it.

Bottom line, if we simply kick the FG and win (or miss it even) we are all ecstatic about Lebby. And even after the horrible decision and loss yesterday, we will all be back on the Lebby train if he beats Texas. So don't be a prisoner of the moment and let one awful decision shape your mindset. If it becomes a pattern and he loses the team, I'm sure we will all be in unison on his firing. But we 100% aren't there yet. And I think anyone that has taken a breath from yesterday realizes that

And if ASU doesn't fall asleep, he's 3-4. See how the what if game goes?

[CadaverDawg]

No, if he wins a game - 1 damn sec game, I'm cool with bringing him back. I want him to succeed, but if he goes 0-16, there's no redemption for that. Who is your example of a coach that went winless his first 2 seasons and had a good career. Give me any example to dream ok

Does the Arizona State game not count since they aren't SEC? Or are you using "SEC" to reset the goal posts? Arizona State was top 12, and just beat a Top 7....so they are better than several "SEC" teams...so I'm just curious as to the qualifier of "SEC" only

[Cowbeller]

No, if he wins a game - 1 damn sec game, I'm cool with bringing him back. I want him to succeed, but if he goes 0-16, there's no redemption for that. Who is your example of a coach that went winless his first 2 seasons and had a good career. Give me any example to dream ok

Frank Beamer worked out pretty well

[msstate7]

Does the Arizona State game not count since they aren't SEC? Or are you using "SEC" to reset the goal posts? Arizona State was top 12, and just beat a Top 7....so they are better than several "SEC" teams...so I'm just curious as to the qualifier of "SEC" only

I called us to win that game. They aren't good. Literally every sec team would beat them

[CadaverDawg]

And if ASU doesn't fall asleep, he's 3-4. See how the what if game goes?

Umm, no. It doesn't work that way. If Shapen doesn't throw a pick we may win yesterday. We actually DID beat ASU