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    Arizona St Game

    This doesn't need repeating, because it will be repeated 4500 more times til kick, but this game will decide the Jeff Lebby era. It's crazy to think that a game against a consensus top 15 team with a QB that's getting Heisman pub is that consequential, but it is. We HAVE to win the Arizona State game.

    I mean does anyone else see another way to get to 6 wins without Arizona St?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    This doesn't need repeating, because it will be repeated 4500 more times til kick, but this game will decide the Jeff Lebby era. It's crazy to think that a game against a consensus top 15 team with a QB that's getting Heisman pub is that consequential, but it is. We HAVE to win the Arizona State game.

    I mean does anyone else see another way to get to 6 wins without Arizona St?
    Every game but Georgia is "upsettable". Arkansas / OM / Florida / UTKnox / Aggy / Mizz / Texsa / Georgia in order of there's a chance to no shot. You could grab 3 of those if things break wrong for other teams.

    A 4-1 State team is just as likely as a 2-3 or 1-4 start.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tater View Post
    Every game but Georgia is "upsettable". Arkansas / OM / Florida / UTKnox / Aggy / Mizz / Texsa / Georgia in order of there's a chance to no shot. You could grab 3 of those if things break wrong for other teams.

    A 4-1 State team is just as likely as a 2-3 or 1-4 start.
    See I think UGA is more gettable than Texas. Texas is very good and they have a QB. UGA is breaking in a new QB that doesn't seem as good as either of the last two and has less weapons than the last two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    See I think UGA is more gettable than Texas. Texas is very good and they have a QB. UGA is breaking in a new QB that doesn't seem as good as either of the last two and has less weapons than the last two.
    Yea but I don't like Texsa or the name Manning so I'm interjecting personal bias into my evaluation.

    Also I'd put the ASU game around the Florida / UTKnox realm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    Texas is very good and they have a QB. UGA is breaking in a new QB
    Just some perspective:
    Arch Manning has 95 career pass attempts. https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...6/arch-manning
    Gunner Stockton has 83 career pass attempts. https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...unner-stockton

    Both these teams will be breaking in new QBs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MStateDawg View Post
    Just some perspective:
    Arch Manning has 95 career pass attempts. https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...6/arch-manning
    Gunner Stockton has 83 career pass attempts. https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...unner-stockton

    Both these teams will be breaking in new QBs.
    Well but Arch has starts and he played in games in big time moments last year. It's akin to Tebow when he took over for Lee. He was ready to take over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    This doesn't need repeating, because it will be repeated 4500 more times til kick, but this game will decide the Jeff Lebby era. It's crazy to think that a game against a consensus top 15 team with a QB that's getting Heisman pub is that consequential, but it is. We HAVE to win the Arizona State game.

    I mean does anyone else see another way to get to 6 wins without Arizona St?
    I just don't see us beating a team that just made the playoffs and got much better throughout the season.
    If that game decides Lebby's career, then he's in big trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    Well but Arch has starts and he played in games in big time moments last year.
    Arch started vs ULM & State last year. Not exactly stellar defenses.
    Stockton played the 2nd half of the SEC Championship Game and UGA's playoff game versus Notre Dame.

    If anything, Stockton has more experience in big time situations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    See I think UGA is more gettable than Texas. Texas is very good and they have a QB. UGA is breaking in a new QB that doesn't seem as good as either of the last two and has less weapons than the last two.
    I don't think either are possible

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    I am not a Lebby fan and even I don?t think that game should decide his career. It?s just one game in a long season. If he can win 4 he gets one more year to prove he can take us to a bowl game. If he does that I will start believing. Until then, he has proven nothing. His recruiting is bad high school wise. Portal pretty OK though given the situation. At the same time I understand we need stability and if he can show steady improvement each year then that?s good progress considering the horrible situation he inherited

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    This doesn't need repeating, because it will be repeated 4500 more times til kick, but this game will decide the Jeff Lebby era. It's crazy to think that a game against a consensus top 15 team with a QB that's getting Heisman pub is that consequential, but it is. We HAVE to win the Arizona State game.

    I mean does anyone else see another way to get to 6 wins without Arizona St?
    1. No one with realistic expectations thinks we?ll get 6.
    2. ASU is not must win, but the other 3 non conference games are.
    3. Levee?s floor is 4, lose one of the non conference games means he?ll need to beat Ark or Misery on the road or OM at home.
    4. Win 6 and Levee is national coach of the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by viverlibre View Post
    1. No one with realistic expectations thinks we?ll get 6.
    2. ASU is not must win, but the other 3 non conference games are.
    3. Levee?s floor is 4, lose one of the non conference games means he?ll need to beat Ark or Misery on the road or OM at home.
    4. Win 6 and Levee is national coach of the year.
    i don't know why but i think we get 6 wins. this team will be much better than that stank show last year!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PGHBulldogBG View Post
    I am not a Lebby fan and even I don?t think that game should decide his career. It?s just one game in a long season. If he can win 4 he gets one more year to prove he can take us to a bowl game. If he does that I will start believing. Until then, he has proven nothing. His recruiting is bad high school wise. Portal pretty OK though given the situation. At the same time I understand we need stability and if he can show steady improvement each year then that?s good progress considering the horrible situation he inherited
    Fair post. Refreshing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    This doesn't need repeating, because it will be repeated 4500 more times til kick, but this game will decide the Jeff Lebby era. It's crazy to think that a game against a consensus top 15 team with a QB that's getting Heisman pub is that consequential, but it is. We HAVE to win the Arizona State game.

    I mean does anyone else see another way to get to 6 wins without Arizona St?
    Win 3 of Ar, OM, Tenn, Mizz, or Fl. Just have to hope we are a little better than we think we may be. Run the ball and control the games. Try in some way to keep our defense off the field or at least fresher so they don’t get gassed. Shorten the games to hopefully keep them close.

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    Not having a legit run game last year kept the Lebby offense stagnant. If we have a decent run game this year it is going to open it up for Shapen.

    Winning vs ASU would do a lot to give Lebby and the team a big boost. It would mean 6 wins is very possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    Not having a legit run game last year kept the Lebby offense stagnant. If we have a decent run game this year it is going to open it up for Shapen.

    Winning vs ASU would do a lot to give Lebby and the team a big boost. It would mean 6 wins is very possible.
    Run game got better towards the end. We need to pick up where we left off there and improve upon it. The RB room looks pretty good! Hope the OL pans out. If so, we will be a much better team than last year. Oh and the OL keeps Shapen upright and injury free. Hard to win with the situation we had last year

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    I figure Lebby wins the first 4. Just a feeling. I said win them, not by much but wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bdawg View Post
    Run game got better towards the end. We need to pick up where we left off there and improve upon it. The RB room looks pretty good! Hope the OL pans out. If so, we will be a much better team than last year. Oh and the OL keeps Shapen upright and injury free. Hard to win with the situation we had last year
    Yep, spot on. The run game got better but our true freshmen QB couldn't exploit it. He just didn't have the reps and experience. I think we are going to be considerably better on both sides of the ball. We'll have a decent shot at winning 6 games. If we don't, well it is what it is.

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    The product is noticeably improved but we play in the SEC..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    This doesn't need repeating, because it will be repeated 4500 more times til kick, but this game will decide the Jeff Lebby era. It's crazy to think that a game against a consensus top 15 team with a QB that's getting Heisman pub is that consequential, but it is. We HAVE to win the Arizona State game.

    I mean does anyone else see another way to get to 6 wins without Arizona St?
    I'm not sure I see a way to 6 wins with ASU. Lebby has to win 4 and be competitive in most games. I'm not optimistic that we're going to manage that.

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