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12-15-2024, 08:34 AM
#1401

Originally Posted by
BigDawg81
possibly. I saw that people were upset cause we didn?t get a commitment yesterday but apparently there is a rule where a player has to wait a day to commit after a visit.
Wasn't Arnold still on a visit to Auburn?
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12-15-2024, 08:59 AM
#1402

Originally Posted by
msstate7
Probably at least worth noting that he shouldn't have had to play as a true freshman, he faced 3 playoff teams on the road and 1 that just missed it, and mizzou, who was a top 25 defense.
Everyone here loves KT, and we all should love him. What do you think he would look like next season if he were forced into action in sec play?
Agree with all of this. However, for people to act like he is this irreplaceable superstar is asinine. The guy had the same problems in his last start that he did in his first.
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12-15-2024, 09:08 AM
#1403

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Agree with all of this. However, for people to act like he is this irreplaceable superstar is asinine. The guy had the same problems in his last start that he did in his first.
I don't think MVB or Arnold are irreplaceable. I think both are still very much projects.
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12-15-2024, 09:19 AM
#1404

Originally Posted by
msstate7
I don't think MVB or Arnold are irreplaceable. I think both are still very much projects.
Arnold just seemed more fit for this offense IMO.
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12-15-2024, 09:19 AM
#1405

Originally Posted by
msstate7
Wasn't Arnold still on a visit to Auburn?
It was the morning after I believe
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12-15-2024, 09:19 AM
#1406

Originally Posted by
msstate7
Wasn't Arnold still on a visit to Auburn?
He wasn't, just message board people speculating.
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12-15-2024, 09:22 AM
#1407

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Arnold just seemed more fit for this offense IMO.
Based off what? He played in it sparingly and had better weapons when he did.
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12-15-2024, 09:23 AM
#1408

Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Agree with all of this. However, for people to act like he is this irreplaceable superstar is asinine. The guy had the same problems in his last start that he did in his first.
I don?t he?s moving the goalposts again. We play in the SEC, every week is brutal. You make the plays or not. MVB didn?t progress enough to not have to work to retain his spot. And definitely didn?t rate 1mil NIL. He is still a small QB that will never be able to handle the entire run and shoot. The QB has to be a threat with the ball in his hands to pass and run. No team played the QB run part of our offense because they knew he wasn?t going to pull it out of the mesh. We have to make the other team play 11 on 11 not 11 on 10.
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12-15-2024, 09:27 AM
#1409

Originally Posted by
Todd4State
He kind of reminds me of Nick Fitzgerald. And that's not a compliment.
Fitz would have won our first SEC Championship if Dan had stayed 1 more year. I'll take it!!!!!
In the right system with the right coach, players can make a huge change from one year to the next.
(This is just a response to the Fitz comment. No idea if this dude is good or not)
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12-15-2024, 10:14 AM
#1410
Lebby's run and shoot needs a QB who runs like Fitz and throw like Dak.
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12-15-2024, 10:51 AM
#1411

Originally Posted by
DownwardDawg
Fitz would have won our first SEC Championship if Dan had stayed 1 more year. I'll take it!!!!!
In the right system with the right coach, players can make a huge change from one year to the next.
(This is just a response to the Fitz comment. No idea if this dude is good or not)
It would have been close, but ultimately Nick?s inability in the passing game would have likely been the limiting factor.
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12-15-2024, 11:23 AM
#1412

Originally Posted by
KB21
It would have been close, but ultimately Nick?s inability in the passing game would have likely been the limiting factor.
I believe we would have went 11-1 at worst and played in the SECCG. Nick could have thrown 10 passes a game and won those games.
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12-15-2024, 11:34 AM
#1413

Originally Posted by
BigDawg81
possibly. I saw that people were upset cause we didn?t get a commitment yesterday but apparently there is a rule where a player has to wait a day to commit after a visit.
you can commit on a visit. Just can't sign the paperwork until the next day.
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12-15-2024, 11:37 AM
#1414
Arnold's visit ended Friday night. He signed Saturday morning.
Have to wait until after midnight the day of your visit to sign is my understanding.
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12-15-2024, 11:45 AM
#1415

Originally Posted by
confucius say
Arnold's visit ended Friday night. He signed Saturday morning.
Have to wait until after midnight the day of your visit to sign is my understanding.
Same
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12-15-2024, 11:54 AM
#1416
all we can do is let it play out and see who we end up with out of the portal. but my concern is that we are putting a value on a player, maybe it's a fair market value and that is the approach. that's not going to work. the perception of our program with agents and portal players and practically everyone is not good. we are going to have to over-pay for players. Lebby said we are only take 15 players. if we have 10-13 million which has been rumored, go out there and make strong aggressive offers to fill these holes in the roster. For example, center. We desperately need a center. Let's say the guy from Oklahoma is looking for 200K. Offer the guy 400K and be done with it. Don't let him visit Colorado. I'm just throwing numbers out there, but you see my point.
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12-15-2024, 11:55 AM
#1417
so. if Kromenhoek doesn't sign by tuesday morning.........
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12-15-2024, 11:56 AM
#1418

Originally Posted by
DownwardDawg
I believe we would have went 11-1 at worst and played in the SECCG. Nick could have thrown 10 passes a game and won those games.
No team is winning anything by just throwing it 10 times a game.
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12-15-2024, 11:59 AM
#1419

Originally Posted by
HoopsDawg
all we can do is let it play out and see who we end up with out of the portal. but my concern is that we are putting a value on a player, maybe it's a fair market value and that is the approach. that's not going to work. the perception of our program with agents and portal players and practically everyone is not good. we are going to have to over-pay for players. Lebby said we are only take 15 players. if we have 10-13 million which has been rumored, go out there and make strong aggressive offers to fill these holes in the roster. For example, center. We desperately need a center. Let's say the guy from Oklahoma is looking for 200K. Offer the guy 400K and be done with it. Don't let him visit Colorado. I'm just throwing numbers out there, but you see my point.
On positions of need (oline, dline, CB), I agree. I'm glad we didn't do that with Arnold and MVB though bc Homedawg and others have said it's gonna be shapen next season.
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12-15-2024, 12:13 PM
#1420

Originally Posted by
msstate7
On positions of need (oline, dline, CB), I agree. I'm glad we didn't do that with Arnold and MVB though bc Homedawg and others have said it's gonna be shapen next season.
Correction: it’s going to be Shapen for the first 4-5 games. Then he will be out with injury. Go ahead and earmark this because it’s the truth.
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