No Surprise- Hutzler staying

[gtowndawg]

I'll say it again, either we are finally playing the game and keeping our cards close to the vest for portal reasons before we unload Hutzler - OR - they know Lebby is getting fired this time next year so what's the point in firing staff when they are all getting canned in 12 months anyway.

We are M State though, so who knows if Keenum and Salmon have even put that much thought into it...

[gtowndawg]

Also, I've seen references to firing Lebby and Salmon at the same time next year. If we fire Selmon at the same time, we are back to not having an AD to make a coaching hire which is how we ended up with Arnett. Selmon isn't getting fired before next football season so he would be hiring the next guy too. It's like we're on a hampster wheel and can't get of.

[TrapGame]

Also, I've seen references to firing Lebby and Salmon at the same time next year. If we fire Selmon at the same time, we are back to not having an AD to make a coaching hire which is how we ended up with Arnett. Selmon isn't getting fired before next football season so he would be hiring the next guy too. It's like we're on a hampster wheel and can't get of.

Selmon will still be here if he has to fire Lebby. If we continue on with what we have currently on staff then I'd bet Barry Odom is our new HC this time next year. What he's doing at UNLV is nothing short of phenomenal.

[NWADAWG]

IT'll make it that much easier Dec of 2025 to fire the whole bunch. Salmon included

If we do this, we need to hire a competent AD before we start a coaching search. We need someone that has a clue.

[Cooterpoot]

Selmon will still be here if he has to fire Lebby. If we continue on with what we have currently on staff then I'd bet Barry Odom is our new HC this time next year. What he's doing at UNLV is nothing short of phenomenal.

Selmon is pissing off some big time boosters. They've got more power than him. In fact, they pull their support there won't be a program.

[gtowndawg]

If we do this, we need to hire a competent AD before we start a coaching search. We need someone that has a clue.

That's what I was saying above. Unless we just randomly fire Salmon this summer (we won't) he will be hiring the next coach too. That doesn't give me the warm and fuzzies right now.

[gtowndawg]

Selmon is pissing off some big time boosters. They've got more power than him. In fact, they pull their support there won't be a program.

[TrapGame]

Selmon is pissing off some big time boosters. They've got more power than him. In fact, they pull their support there won't be a program.

Well, damn.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Selmon is pissing off some big time boosters. They've got more power than him. In fact, they pull their support there won't be a program.

Then let them do it. Those same boosters are the reason we are in this mess. Because those boosters got shit for brains promoted to AD. Those boosters got Arnett hired. Those boosters just HAD TO HAVE Will Friend on staff. They're mad because Selmon and Lebby have told them to shut the hell up and cut the check. Just like every other program in the country does with boosters that size. None of these guys are Jimmy Rane type donors. They don't give that much.

[TrapGame]

Then let them do it. Those same boosters are the reason we are in this mess. Because those boosters got shit for brains promoted to AD. Those boosters got Arnett hired. Those boosters just HAD TO HAVE Will Friend on staff. They're mad because Selmon and Lebby have told them to shut the hell up and cut the check. Just like every other program in the country does with boosters that size. None of these guys are Jimmy Rane type donors. They don't give that much.

Oh, if it's that bunch they can STFU. They're part of the damn problem.

[Cooterpoot]

Then let them do it. Those same boosters are the reason we are in this mess. Because those boosters got shit for brains promoted to AD. Those boosters got Arnett hired. Those boosters just HAD TO HAVE Will Friend on staff. They're mad because Selmon and Lebby have told them to shut the hell up and cut the check. Just like every other program in the country does with boosters that size. None of these guys are Jimmy Rane type donors. They don't give that much.

No they aren't. You can continue with your dumbassery of recruiting etc but you don't know what you're talking about, You just love attention. The people who work for this university are a far greater issue than the boosters. The boosters just threw in $11M the last couple months.

[StarkVegasSteve]

Oh, if it's that bunch they can STFU. They're part of the damn problem.

I don't really care if it's not to be honest. Boosters at good programs STFU and give money. And when it's obvious that a change needs to be made, one will be made. Instead, ours get pissy when their info gets cut off and starts wanting to threaten to pull money, stop supporting the program, etc. Like honestly, call their bluff. Because that's what Mullen and Byrne did. And you know what, they STFU and cut the checks. If they want to pull their money, then do it. Because I know they won't. We have boosters who do that shit every day. You would be astonished and how many of our boosters call the athletic dept threatening to pull their money over just stupid shit. I mean reasons I've heard in the past 10 years: didn't get chosen to help with construction on the lofts, daughter didn't get on the cheer team, they didn't serve the right kind of chicken tenders, the box next to theirs was cussing and drinking. I mean these were legit reasons. I wish I was making that up. And these aren't 5K boosters. These were 150K-500K boosters complaining over just plain stupidity. Ole Miss, Bama, Auburn, UGA have 1 million-5 million dollar boosters who complain less than our 150K-500K boosters.

[Coursesuper]

Selmon is pissing off some big time boosters. They've got more power than him. In fact, they pull their support there won't be a program.

We are Dollar General Auburn.

[StarkVegasSteve]

No they aren't. You can continue with your dumbassery of recruiting etc but you don't know what you're talking about, You just love attention. The people who work for this university are a far greater issue than the boosters. The boosters just threw in $11M the last couple months.

You are right about one thing. The people who work for the university are a far greater issue. And it's people that have been up there for 15-20 years that HAVE NO CLUE how to do their job. Like I said, Selmon damn near quit within the first week because we had people in 6 figure jobs that didn't know how to do their job. Also, the ACTUAL boosters threw in way more than 11 mil. It's between 18-19 with more coming in every day. Boosters aren't the problem. But "boosters" are.

[Op4isabitch]

No they aren't. You can continue with your dumbassery of recruiting etc but you don't know what you're talking about, You just love attention. The people who work for this university are a far greater issue than the boosters. The boosters just threw in $11M the last couple months.

A lot more than $11mil, that’s just 2 families. There’s been many more smaller donations.

[TrapGame]

We are Dollar General Auburn.

Dollar General is a billion dollar corporation.

We are the family running the Sav-A-Lot down the street trying to compete.

[Goldendawg]

Huff is the lead candidate for the USM job. And we play USM in H'burg next season.

We should be on the phone to Geoff Collins offering him a fat check to come back here as DC.

We keep Hutzler and I'd bet $100 to NIL that we fire Lebby after next season. We can't go 0-8 in the SEC two years in a row.

Lebby/Hutzler = Croom/Woody, another bad choice of a hill to die on. Also most of our dozen or so JC commits have terrible offer sheets with us the only SEC offer for some. Sure hope Jackie doesn't give Lebby the phone number for Western Arizona JC for DL prospects.*****

[StarkVegasSteve]

Lebby/Hutzler = Croom/Woody, another bad choice of a hill to die on. Also most of our dozen or so JC commits have terrible offer sheets with us the only SEC offer for some. Sure hope Jackie doesn't give Lebby the phone number for Western Arizona JC for DL prospects.*****

We're bringing in those guys for depth. We need all the depth we can get. I mean we need guys who can contribute next year and we need about 35-40 of them. We're realistically probably going to get 25-30 new guys through the portal so JUCO will need to fill out the rest of that. Now if we strike out on portal guys then you have every right to be worried. But with our war chest it will be really hard to strike out on guys.

[StateDawg44]

I understand if the reason to keep was for consistency but there really can't be any other excuse I can think of.

That said... we are so screwed. And we thought we hit bottom this year.

[Jarius]

Retaining Hutzler would be the most Mississippi State sh*t ever. Completely unacceptable.