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    I blame Mark Keenum

    Unfortunately, our coach died unexpectedly.
    Keenum hired a 1st time Head Coach with little DC experience in the P5.
    Keenum hired a 1st time AD which in return hires a1st time Head Coach with a 1st time Defensive Coordinator.
    State is a SEC school. State should not be someones 1st job. There isn?t anything wrong with a proven G5 coach or AD.
    This is really bad.

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    The rot began before the Leach passing, the bad began when Cohen was forced on the university by alumni. Keenum didn’t want to hire him and that’s a fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coursesuper View Post
    The rot began before the Leach passing, the bad began when Cohen was forced on the university by alumni. Keenum didn’t want to hire him and that’s a fact.
    I will never forget hearing Cohen was our new AD. I honestly thought it was a joke. Our alumni that make decisions like that one are the reason we are who we are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by civildawg View Post
    I will never forget hearing Cohen was our new AD. I honestly thought it was a joke. Our alumni that make decisions like that one are the reason we are who we are.
    Then we need to find some alumni with some pretty deep pockets because the alumni you mention are the ones cutting the checks for the lion share of BDC and BI funds. If you cut their influence, they will cut their money. And unfortunately with the way some of our fan base thinks about NIL, we would have no NIL funds. And you just think our players are bad now.

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    I know how big money boosters work at universities. I'm just saying they are idiots for wanting Cohen as AD

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    Quote Originally Posted by civildawg View Post
    I know how big money boosters work at universities. I'm just saying they are idiots for wanting Cohen as AD
    And you are not wrong. They were promised it would be just like when LT was there and boy did Cohen deliver on that one.

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    Yet he did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    Then we need to find some alumni with some pretty deep pockets because the alumni you mention are the ones cutting the checks for the lion share of BDC and BI funds. If you cut their influence, they will cut their money. And unfortunately with the way some of our fan base thinks about NIL, we would have no NIL funds. And you just think our players are bad now.
    They can go **** themselves. They have zero clue when it comes to football. They're why we are where we are when it comes to football.

    Glad they got to go to practice to watch our 2-10 team though. That's assuming UMass doesn't beat us.

    And look at what they bought- a bunch of pussies.

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    lotta truth to this ^^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    Then we need to find some alumni with some pretty deep pockets because the alumni you mention are the ones cutting the checks for the lion share of BDC and BI funds. If you cut their influence, they will cut their money. And unfortunately with the way some of our fan base thinks about NIL, we would have no NIL funds. And you just think our players are bad now.
    Honest question, what is the ballpark NIL payroll needed each season? Just average.
    What we saw last night was something other than NIL, but I agree to get the poor decision makers out of there we need to have new $$$

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    Then we need to find some alumni with some pretty deep pockets because the alumni you mention are the ones cutting the checks for the lion share of BDC and BI funds. If you cut their influence, they will cut their money. And unfortunately with the way some of our fan base thinks about NIL, we would have no NIL funds. And you just think our players are bad now.
    Not true. You just need an AD and staff with balls to take command. Unfortunately it’s all inbred with State government and State contracts to there is much more at play here. It’s just prepping for realignment in a few years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgology View Post
    Not true. You just need an AD and staff with balls to take command. Unfortunately it’s all inbred with State government and State contracts to there is much more at play here. It’s just prepping for realignment in a few years
    Then where do you get the money? You can have the greatest admin in the world but if you do not have big money donors you will fail. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. Like I said earlier, we have ridded some of them, but some of them we just have to deal with due to the amount they give.

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    Quote Originally Posted by civildawg View Post
    I will never forget hearing Cohen was our new AD. I honestly thought it was a joke. Our alumni that make decisions like that one are the reason we are who we are.
    Our school is located in the middle of nowhere Mississippi
    We once played LSU in Baton Rouge 29 times in a 32 year stretch
    We fired the coach that won our last SEC title
    We hired Sylvester Croom as HC

    Our school has been one bad decision after another since its very beginning
    Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Our school is located in the middle of nowhere Mississippi
    We once played LSU in Baton Rouge 29 times in a 32 year stretch
    We fired the coach that won our last SEC title
    We hired Sylvester Croom as HC

    Our school has been one bad decision after another since its very beginning
    We need to face facts: NIL and the portal have killed any chance we had of being competitive. We're a school that produces farmers and engineers. They aren't competing with oil, tech, doctor or lawyer money. Hell, the engineers mostly don't even give a damn about sports or donate to it. As we just saw with DJ and Woody, any good players we have are going to be poached by bigger, richer programs. And because of the portal, players aren't staying anywhere more than a couple of years, making being a development program impossible. There needs to be a new term for whatever product we're seeing, because it damn sure isn't college football. It's semipro ball using the brands of universities to milk you dry for more and more money. We're a Mississippi team with barely any Mississippi players. Let that sink in. Of course these mercs with no connection to anything but their NIL paycheck are going to roll over and quit at the first tiny bit of adversity.
    Last edited by War Machine Dawg; 09-15-2024 at 04:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    Then where do you get the money? You can have the greatest admin in the world but if you do not have big money donors you will fail. EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. Like I said earlier, we have ridded some of them, but some of them we just have to deal with due to the amount they give.
    Not at all. You hire an AD that doesn’t let those boosters make all the decisions but still involves them. I understand you need their money but at some point their money is poison to the football program

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    Quote Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg View Post
    We need to face facts: NIL and the portal have killed any chance we had of being competitive. We're a school that produces farmers and engineers. They aren't competing with oil, tech, doctor or lawyer money. Hell, the engineers mostly don't even give a damn about sports or donate to it. As we just saw with DJ and Woody, any good players we have are going to be poached by bigger, richer programs. And because of the portal, players aren't staying anywhere more than a couple of years, making being a development program impossible. There needs to be a new term for whatever product we're seeing, because of damn sure isn't college football. It's semipro ball using the brands of universities to milk you dry for more and more money. We're a Mississippi team with barely any Mississippi players. Let that sink in. If course these mercs with no connection to anything but their NIL paycheck are going to roll over and quit at the first tiny bit of adversity.
    Man you have no clue it's all I have to say
    Last edited by TheLostDawg; 09-15-2024 at 02:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgology View Post
    Not at all. You hire an AD that doesn’t let those boosters make all the decisions but still involves them. I understand you need their money but at some point their money is poison to the football program
    This

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawgology View Post
    Not at all. You hire an AD that doesn’t let those boosters make all the decisions but still involves them. I understand you need their money but at some point their money is poison to the football program
    And we had that under Mullen, Byrne, and Stricklin. However, THE MOMENT Cohen took over, he brought all of the LT old boys back into the fold so they would fund all his baseball shit.

    Selmon is weeding them out once again but that will take time. Unfortunately due to NIL, we cannot tell them they are losers and to go 17 themselves like Dan and Greg did. We are having to ask them for money every way from Sunday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    And we had that under Mullen, Byrne, and Stricklin. However, THE MOMENT Cohen took over, he brought all of the LT old boys back into the fold so they would fund all his baseball shit.
    Exactly.

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    Yeah he should turn in his keys. This all started with him not hiring an AD

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