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Originally Posted by
Coach34
We'll just disagree.
Sounds good.
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
It's called an adjustment period, and he can't make it if he is sitting on the bench. Our team's ceiling is highest with Reid Humphreys playing, but there will be some early lumps while he goes through the adjustment period.
His TALENT level, as a hitter, is higher than anyone on this roster, and it's not really close.
I think he has talent and will be a good player for us- but he is taking on Tyler Russell hype as a true Freshman. His ceiling as a true Freshman is about .250 at best hitting in the SEC. Alex Bregman showed last year what a legit Freshman does- Humphreys is nowhere near that
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
I think he has talent and will be a good player for us- but he is taking on Tyler Russell hype as a true Freshman. His ceiling as a true Freshman is about .250 at best hitting in the SEC. Alex Bregman showed last year what a legit Freshman does- Humphreys is nowhere near that
Humphreys won't put up the average that Bregman does because Bregman has a much shorter swing, but Humphreys has more power than Bregman. After the initial adjustment period, of say, two weeks, I think Humphreys could hit .275-.300 with 3-5 HRs from there on out.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
I think he has talent and will be a good player for us- but he is taking on Tyler Russell hype as a true Freshman. His ceiling as a true Freshman is about .250 at best hitting in the SEC. Alex Bregman showed last year what a legit Freshman does- Humphreys is nowhere near that
By that standard I guess we haven't had a legit freshman under Cohen. We really haven't recruited a player that has come in to play for us college ready. That is certainly one difference between the guys we get and at least some of the guys that LSU gets.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
I think he has talent and will be a good player for us- but he is taking on Tyler Russell hype as a true Freshman. His ceiling as a true Freshman is about .250 at best hitting in the SEC. Alex Bregman showed last year what a legit Freshman does- Humphreys is nowhere near that
Alex Bregman should not be your only indication of what a legit freshman looks like. He was the best in the country. My goodness.
Last edited by Five-tool Poster; 04-05-2014 at 11:50 PM.
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Last year's College World Series finalists got red hot at just the right time. Many of you accepted that as the new norm. Its not. We are pretty good. But the CWS is not our birthright.
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I agree about Humphreys. We need a spark and Britton isn't going to give it to us unless a miracle happens soon.
Like I said this past week- we could start Humphreys and then put Britton in late if we are really concerned about his glove.
He can't reach his potential on the bench.
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Originally Posted by
PassInterference
Last year's College World Series finalists got red hot at just the right time. Many of you accepted that as the new norm. Its not. We are pretty good. But the CWS is not our birthright.
The SEC as a league is more difficult than the CWS field. You literally can win the CWS with two really good pitchers because of how spread out the format is. Most of the teams in the SEC are CWS caliber. Of course, not all will make it- but most have the potential and talent to do so.
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Originally Posted by
Will James
Henderson….Rf
Armstrong…Cf
Pirtle………..2b
Garner …….1b
Humphreys.3b
Heck…………SS
Detz………….DH
Collins………C
Brown……..Lf
This lineup could spark us. We have got to do something different. Sit down Vick, Rea, and Britton.
Not a mere 7 days ago and two games, you were saying Vickerson was fine and not in a slump. Now you are calling to bench him? Interesting. Btw, I agree to bench him. He is absolute crap right now as our lead off guy. Glad you are seeing the light.
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Originally Posted by
ShotgunDawg
Reid Humphreys has to play. I realize Britton is better on defense, but Humphreys is one of the few guys on the team that can hit the ball in the gap or over the fence. At this point, it is worth giving away a little defense for a potential dynamic bat. Humphreys is has most talent on the team as a hitter.
Tell me why in a one run game in the ninth inning do you PH CT Bradford with two outs instead of Humphreys?!! Is Bradford going to hit one out of the park??? Makes zero sense to do that. You have to put someone at the plate that has a chance and the power to hit an HR and tell him to be aggressive and look for that first pitch fast ball.
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Originally Posted by
Bucky Dog
Tell me why in a one run game in the ninth inning do you PH CT Bradford with two outs instead of Humphreys?!! Is Bradford going to hit one out of the park??? Makes zero sense to do that. You have to put someone at the plate that has a chance and the power to hit an HR and tell him to be aggressive and look for that first pitch fast ball.
The idea was that a lefty would have a much better chance than a righty. CT has never been clutch, so I get what you're saying, but I think Humphreys would have probably K'd there too.
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Originally Posted by
PassInterference
Last year's College World Series finalists got red hot at just the right time. Many of you accepted that as the new norm. Its not. We are pretty good. But the CWS is not our birthright.
Haha. Our fans are the best.
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Just one of the many yearly freak out threads that will probably be bumped in June... Had no doubt there would be a couple of them...
Anyone that defines a team midseason is a dumb ass even when it works out that they are correct... Which, in the case of Cohen, has been very rare... 3 straight years of this at some point in the season only to look ridiculous when the cards are on the table -- and our fans still never learn.
Last edited by engie; 04-06-2014 at 09:31 AM.
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Originally Posted by
engie
Here is one of the many yearly freak out threads that will probably be bumped in June...
Anyone that defines a team midseason is a dumb ass even when it works out that they are correct... Which, in the case of Cohen, has been very damn rare... 3 straight years of this at some point in the season only to look ridiculous when the cards are on the table -- and our fans still never learn.
If all you are judging on is MAKING the postseason and having a decent run at that time, you are correct. So far, under Cohen however, we have never competed for anything in the SEC regular season and we have hosted ONE regional. I don't think its being overdemanding of MSU fans to want to be in the thick of winning an SEC championship or wanting to host a regional (not even talking a Super here) on a regular basis. At 20-12 (6-5) we are once again in severe danger of neither competing in the SEC or hosting a regional. I really don't see this thread as "freaking out" but when we have an offense as anemic as ours there are plenty of reasons for concern.
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We are 1.5 games out of first in the SEC - isn't that pretty close to being the definition "competing for SEC Championships"?
The sandy vag crowd is making following baseball on this board close to unbearable. Are there concerns? Yes - but we aren't 3-8 Mizzu and already out of it. Go back to a mantra from this fall and "let the season play out."
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Originally Posted by
engie
Just one of the many yearly freak out threads that will probably be bumped in June... Had no doubt there would be a couple of them...
Anyone that defines a team midseason is a dumb ass even when it works out that they are correct... Which, in the case of Cohen, has been very rare... 3 straight years of this at some point in the season only to look ridiculous when the cards are on the table -- and our fans still never learn.
Exactly, JC is our Man let Him Coach. It's not like we are in the basement. Nobody in the SEC is tearing the cover off the ball. Just win today and we will be ok.
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Chances are that we don't get today's game in.........Severe storms expected in the
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To me, it's pretty simple. You play Detz at 3rd. Sit Vick and start Cody Brown. And let Humphrey's and Garner take turns at DH.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
If for no other reason, maybe it'll light a fire in some upperclassmen
Here's my lineup:
1. Armstrong, CF
2.Detz, 3B
3. Pirtle, 2B
4. Rea, 1B
5. Garner, DH
6. Henderson, RF
7. Brown, LF
8. Collins, C
9. Heck, SS
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Originally Posted by
engie
Just one of the many yearly freak out threads that will probably be bumped in June... Had no doubt there would be a couple of them...
Anyone that defines a team midseason is a dumb ass even when it works out that they are correct... Which, in the case of Cohen, has been very rare... 3 straight years of this at some point in the season only to look ridiculous when the cards are on the table -- and our fans still never learn.
Not a freak out, because I agree that we will get it going, like we do most every year. I was speaking to more of the general makeup and talent of the team. Whether or not this team gets hot and makes a run in the postseason, doesn't change the circumstance that we aren't maximizing our potential by playing the most talented players.
This debate is somewhat similar to Mullen playing Perkins over Robinson all last season. Yes, the team started clicking at the end of the year, it doesn't change the fact that Josh Robinson was a better running back.
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