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    I'm thinking this NIL may not be so bad

    It can be fine-tuned by limiting the number of times the athlete can transfer and maybe multi year contracts. Our ability to change our roster quickly adds excitement for next season. This site and other sites are getting a crap load more clicks now. The best athletes will gravitate to the P5 schools. This should all settle out like free agency did in the NFL and MLB. Schools can buy all the players they want but they can't all be on the field at the same time.

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    Just wait until it moves to high school.

    Here in Alabama there's a bill in the house to allow NIL at the high school level.

    Talk about not having any regulations or oversight. Move it to high school and watch the wild west get even wilder. Kids transferring high schools every year going to the highest bidder.

    As a secondary public school administrator in Alabama , let's just say I don't want to be in the business of having to navigate NIL at the high school level. Lots of potential for screwy things to go on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetEdDawg View Post
    Just wait until it moves to high school.

    Here in Alabama there's a bill in the house to allow NIL at the high school level.

    Talk about not having any regulations or oversight. Move it to high school and watch the wild west get even wilder. Kids transferring high schools every year going to the highest bidder.

    As a secondary public school administrator in Alabama , let's just say I don't want to be in the business of having to navigate NIL at the high school level. Lots of potential for screwy things to go on.
    We have decided to homeschool for this reason - it's gotten to where schools in Texas are all about athletics when it comes to spending tax dollars. Our priorities are way out of touch.

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    Or just make these NIL agreements binding contracts. You sign to play for X amount of dollars and if you leave there is a buyout clause.

    The transfer thing is what screws all this up. NIL itself is not bad just like the portal by itself is not bad. However, when you combine the two it is the Wild West.

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    The problem with the current situation is that there is no regulation. It’s a cesspool of tampering with other schools rosters and $$$. Until the current system becomes unsustainable for the schools that have the most revenue there will be no movement towards changing the current state of affairs. The NCAA is no more, it is a shell of an organization. There will be a new organization soon.

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    2 fixes will make it really good:

    Defined, binding multi-year contracts so that the players and teams both know how long the player is staying
    Some kind of NIL sharing program within each conference to help even things out a little

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetEdDawg View Post
    Just wait until it moves to high school.

    Here in Alabama there's a bill in the house to allow NIL at the high school level.

    Talk about not having any regulations or oversight. Move it to high school and watch the wild west get even wilder. Kids transferring high schools every year going to the highest bidder.

    As a secondary public school administrator in Alabama , let's just say I don't want to be in the business of having to navigate NIL at the high school level. Lots of potential for screwy things to go on.
    Old school style recruiting is definitely going on at the private schools in Mississippi.

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    The easiest way to control all this is that starting next year each school gets 85 scholarships for football for a 4 year period. A school signs 30 kids to a scholarship next year (via portal or whatever) and those 30 spots are locked for 4 years. So a school can only sign 55 kids over the next three years, no matter what (ie. Hurt, transfer, etc.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Todd4State View Post
    Old school style recruiting is definitely going on at the private schools in Mississippi.
    And it has been for decades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetEdDawg View Post
    Just wait until it moves to high school.

    Here in Alabama there's a bill in the house to allow NIL at the high school level.

    Talk about not having any regulations or oversight. Move it to high school and watch the wild west get even wilder. Kids transferring high schools every year going to the highest bidder.

    As a secondary public school administrator in Alabama , let's just say I don't want to be in the business of having to navigate NIL at the high school level. Lots of potential for screwy things to go on.
    Haven't heard about that. Would be a tragedy if that passes.

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    Regarding the limiting of transfers..... a federal judge told the ncaa ... "you can't do that." For 14 days in mid December. There was supposed to be a hearing December 27. However I can't find anything that says a hearing took place or maybe the restraining order was extended on continuance. I'm not sure.


    Regardless it is my understanding players can transfer as much as they want and any time they want, currently. The fed judge basically neutered the ncaa. Because who's to say any other rule the ncaa tries to enforce that any athlete says .... "nah, I'll just sue you".

    There are no rules now. None. Do whatever the hell you like.

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    So you believe that not all Americans should be able to make money legally anyway they want?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RocketDawg View Post
    Haven't heard about that. Would be a tragedy if that passes.
    Why would it be a tragedy? Because a black man can use his skills to make money, while still in high school?
    Give me one argument why a high school kid shouldn't make legal money anyway they can, and I will tell you that Slavery was abolished a long time ago.

    I wish someone would give my daughter a 100k to do archery. That would be awesome. She is 10 years old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinto View Post
    The easiest way to control all this is that starting next year each school gets 85 scholarships for football for a 4 year period. A school signs 30 kids to a scholarship next year (via portal or whatever) and those 30 spots are locked for 4 years. So a school can only sign 55 kids over the next three years, no matter what (ie. Hurt, transfer, etc.)
    How does this fix the problem?

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    It should be just like normal businesses with non compete clauses. If you want to leave your job then wait a year or go to a team that doesn't directly compete such as D2 or Juco.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead View Post
    So you believe that not all Americans should be able to make money legally anyway they want?
    Yes, of course they should. But it shouldn't be legal to pay high school athletes. And I don't think it will be in Alabama. If nothing else, it would be distracting to their academic work, and possibly not even be able to graduate.

    You mentioned black kids in your other posts - athletics aren't restricted to black players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead View Post
    So you believe that not all Americans should be able to make money legally anyway they want?
    Just those who are old enough to enter into a legal and binding agreement... which is at least 18 years old
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    Quote Originally Posted by MetEdDawg View Post
    Just wait until it moves to high school.

    Here in Alabama there's a bill in the house to allow NIL at the high school level.

    Talk about not having any regulations or oversight. Move it to high school and watch the wild west get even wilder. Kids transferring high schools every year going to the highest bidder.

    As a secondary public school administrator in Alabama , let's just say I don't want to be in the business of having to navigate NIL at the high school level. Lots of potential for screwy things to go on.
    This happens they must remove the farce of "student-athletes". Thats the biggest in sports history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead View Post
    Why would it be a tragedy? Because a black man can use his skills to make money, while still in high school?
    Give me one argument why a high school kid shouldn't make legal money anyway they can, and I will tell you that Slavery was abolished a long time ago.

    I wish someone would give my daughter a 100k to do archery. That would be awesome. She is 10 years old.
    Can you explain how much sense it makes for the government to compel students to attend school while also compelling us to pay them for their name, image, and likeness while taking local tax payer funds to pay for the athletic facilities they use for said sports?

    I mean please make that make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maroonthirteen View Post
    Regarding the limiting of transfers..... a federal judge told the ncaa ... "you can't do that." For 14 days in mid December. There was supposed to be a hearing December 27. However I can't find anything that says a hearing took place or maybe the restraining order was extended on continuance. I'm not sure.


    Regardless it is my understanding players can transfer as much as they want and any time they want, currently. The fed judge basically neutered the ncaa. Because who's to say any other rule the ncaa tries to enforce that any athlete says .... "nah, I'll just sue you".

    There are no rules now. None. Do whatever the hell you like.
    Contracts are most definitely enforceable.that?s the answer.

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