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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    Doesn't matter, we have to get our QB. Could lead to other players coming.
    So why not spend the big check on a guy with 2 years left? Target someone that's transferred already

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    We could over spend for Gabriel for 1 year. Or get a young guy to compete with parson, flowers, wright and save hundreds of thousands of dollars to add another 10 players to build for 25. And if Gabriel gets all the snaps next year, that?s a lot of experience you?re not letting a young guy have. 6 may be the ceiling next year with Gabriel. I?m not arguing one way or the other just laying out the two routes.

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    Gabriel is the perfect bridge QB to help smooth over the cracks of next year. Now, that may mean 6-6 or 7-5, but looking at the roster now and considering the schedule, I will take that right now.

    I would think part of the reason we hired Lebby was the thought of him bringing Gabriel to MSU.

    Need to make it happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    It's not a one time payment. Even if we got a guy with 3 years we would have to pay him next year too. Dart is getting paid 3 years by OM.
    The criteria should be simple...
    2 years of eligibility at least
    Previous transfer

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    So why not spend the big check on a guy with 2 years left? Target someone that's transferred already
    We can spend $X on Gabriel in 2024 and $X on someone else in 2025, or $2X on someone else a ross both years. What's the difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    The criteria should be simple...
    2 years of eligibility at least
    Previous transfer
    Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quaoarsking View Post
    We can spend $X on Gabriel in 2024 and $X on someone else in 2025, or $2X on someone else a ross both years. What's the difference?
    Correct. You spend the same amount.

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    I like the idea on one and done. State has gotten too loyal to the players to the decrement of the program

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    We are talking about a QB that's in good with Lebby, knows his system like the back of his hand and can help teach it.

    This is a no brainer guys. C'mon.

    You overpay and don't think twice about it.

    It's like getting Minshew for a year instead of Costello.

    Again, no brainer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    Correct. You spend the same amount.
    Well to be fair, this isn't Madden. First, a high quality QB has to hit the portal. Second, you actually have to land the second player and he has to fit within your system.

    My preference is to find a guy that can step in and play and have more than one year of eligibility, but those guys are even more expensive than the one year guys like Gabriel.

    Ward apparently may get 2 million from Ohio State.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    We are talking about a QB that's in good with Lebby, knows his system like the back of his hand and can help teach it.

    This is a no brainer guys. C'mon.

    You overpay and don't think twice about it.

    It's like getting Minshew for a year instead of Costello.

    Again, no brainer.
    That probably is the most apt comparison. I would not go Caleb Williams comp but Minshew coming with Leach would be a very good comp. I will echo your sentiments, this is a no brainer. You go get him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    Why?
    Bc we're gonna suck with or without Gabriel next season imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    So why not spend the big check on a guy with 2 years left? Target someone that's transferred already
    What's not computing for you? The only reason we have a shot at someone like Gabriel is the Lebby connection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HancockCountyDog View Post
    Well to be fair, this isn't Madden. First, a high quality QB has to hit the portal. Second, you actually have to land the second player and he has to fit within your system.

    My preference is to find a guy that can step in and play and have more than one year of eligibility, but those guys are even more expensive than the one year guys like Gabriel.

    Ward apparently may get 2 million from Ohio State.
    And after Gabriel's number nosedive next season behind our porous oline, getting another big name will be tough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    What's not computing for you? The only reason we have a shot at someone like Gabriel is the Lebby connection.
    I guess we just disagree on what we have returning. Gabriel can't save our roster

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Bc we're gonna suck with or without Gabriel next season imo
    Mark my words, we'll finished ranked next year if we land Gabriel

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    And after Gabriel's number nosedive next season behind our porous oline, getting another big name will be tough.
    Getting a big name will always be tough. Sheesh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    I guess we just disagree on what we have returning. Gabriel can't save our roster
    I guess you missed the memo, but rosters are year to year now. We aren't UGA.

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    Could landing Gabriel draw others on board?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    Getting a big name will always be tough. Sheesh.
    I'll stick with my criteria on all transfers, not just qb...

    2 years or more of eligibility
    Previous transfers preferred.

    I'm trying to field a good team in 2025 bc I think next season is useless

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