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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Do you think facing 3 dlinemen and rarely any blitzes could skew those stats?
    Sure. But those are advanced stats which look beyond the surface and do a great job of seeing what something actually is instead of taking it at surface value. Not all sacks are created equal and those advanced stats tend to do a really good job showcasing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoachT14 View Post
    Sure. But those are advanced stats which look beyond the surface and do a great job of seeing what something actually is instead of taking it at surface value. Not all sacks are created equal and those advanced stats tend to do a really good job showcasing that.
    I'd like to see their methodology on how you account for that.

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    And I know I'm being hard on the staff, but we hired the guy running our defense to be HC. That defense has no talent. He was directly involved there, especially at LB. He did fire the DL coach and bring in a great one- Credit there. I like that he brought in Campbell too. Mele on ST looks good. We know Hughes can get us in the recruiting game in MS. McBath is a good coach. His guys have no pass rush in front of them and our better recruits are young. Not a big fan of the OL or TE hires but Fruend does have a lot of ins and I won't say he's bad with the lack of OL talent. Already seeing what Bump can do in recruiting and his WR just broke a receiving record. Not a fan of Brock at all. Got a good behind the scenes group. I don't give two shits one way or the other on Peterson being in the field. It's a MSU move but I just don't care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    Do you think facing 3 dlinemen and rarely any blitzes could skew those stats?
    so ... the scheme works in not allowing pressure on the QB, and is an equalizer against more talented SEC teams. Who would have thunk it.***
    Add in a mobile QB and some run packages and it was headed in the right direction. Leach had his mobile QB coming in this season as well.
    edit: the OC this season had spring and fall to figure out the weaknesses of his offense, and line, and scheme around it.
    Last edited by Santiago; 09-28-2023 at 09:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Santiago View Post
    Agree with Todd. For me it is the public statements that then do not add up. That has lost me this year.
    CZA said a couple weeks ago to SEC network guys that his defense was on the field too much the last couple of years....... So I looked it up.
    2021 - we were 7th in the nation in time of possession.
    2022 - we were around 55 in time of possession.
    2023- so far, before hitting the SEC full season, we are 123 in the nation.

    He knew those stats from the last 2 years, and just threw out BS comments instead of saying "I simply changed my mind"
    He was right, being on the field too much is not the same as time of possession. We had too many consecutive 3 and outs. Especially in 3rd quarters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    So does Georgia.
    So does WKU
    So does tulsa.

    And all 3 of these have had pretty big drops offensively
    With Georgia it's probably more because of new QB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg View Post
    And has nothing to do with a change of OC but a change in QB and key players that either graduated. That's both UGA and Tulsa!
    Dude, I'm sorry but changing from Monken to Bobo is a drop off. Even if they had the same players back, it would have been a drop off just from scheme and play calling between the two. That's not debatable really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    Dude, I'm sorry but changing from Monken to Bobo is a drop off. Even if they had the same players back, it would have been a drop off just from scheme and play calling between the two. That's not debatable really.
    So moving from 5th ranked offense to the 13th ranked offense with a new QB is a massive drop off to you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg View Post
    So moving from 5th ranked offense to the 13th ranked offense with a new QB is a massive drop off to you?
    GA has played nobody. They're overrated IMO. Their defense is good but not Natty good like the last few. That offense isn't good. But that schedule is so easy. Maybe it picks up later in the year with the SEC so down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    Dude, I'm sorry but changing from Monken to Bobo is a drop off. Even if they had the same players back, it would have been a drop off just from scheme and play calling between the two. That's not debatable really.
    Can't argue with that really. Just hope Barbay isn't our Bobo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    GA has played nobody. They're overrated IMO. Their defense is good but not Natty good like the last few. That offense isn't good. But that schedule is so easy. Maybe it picks up later in the year with the SEC so down.
    As of now ... who do you think is a Natty type team?

    Ohio State barely squeaked by ND. And ND is always overrated.

    FSU same with Clemson. Clemson hasn't been the same since they lost their good coordinators.

    I'm betting on Kirby until it's proven otherwise. Cause as long as Kirby is at UGA, their D will be very good IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg View Post
    So moving from 5th ranked offense to the 13th ranked offense with a new QB is a massive drop off to you?
    With their cupcake schedule so far? Yes
    Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    With their cupcake schedule so far? Yes
    BS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg View Post
    So moving from 5th ranked offense to the 13th ranked offense with a new QB is a massive drop off to you?
    Did I say massive? I don't think so but why don't we finish the season after they have played some better opponents also. UTM - FCS, Ball St 118th scoring Def, UAB 123rd scoring Def, So Car 84th scoring Def. That's not exactly playing against elite defenses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawgday166 View Post
    Can't argue with that really. Just hope Barbay isn't our Bobo.
    Me too

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    Quote Originally Posted by dawgday166 View Post
    As of now ... who do you think is a Natty type team?

    Ohio State barely squeaked by ND. And ND is always overrated.

    FSU same with Clemson. Clemson hasn't been the same since they lost their good coordinators.

    I'm betting on Kirby until it's proven otherwise. Cause as long as Kirby is at UGA, their D will be very good IMO.
    There are no dominate teams at this point. There's a whole lot of parity and good teams. The SEC isn't down if you actually watch other conferences play. Yeah it may be a little off normal sec years but the whole country is really playing some mediocre football right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    Did I say massive? I don't think so but why don't we finish the season after they have played some better opponents also. UTM - FCS, Ball St 118th scoring Def, UAB 123rd scoring Def, So Car 84th scoring Def. That's not exactly playing against elite defenses.
    The reason you didn't is because it's not. However MS7 (which is the conversation you entered) said they do have a massive drop off. The Drop off they have right now is due to replacing a seasoned QB and some skill positions.

    Our OC has done a piss poor job installing this offense. Our OL in an 11 or 12 is confused and it's hurting our chances of winning. We are about to enter the meat of our schedule and are 4 games into the season. We are running 11 personnel 74% of the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Commercecomet24 View Post
    There are no dominate teams at this point. There's a whole lot of parity and good teams. The SEC isn't down if you actually watch other conferences play. Yeah it may be a little off normal sec years but the whole country is really playing some mediocre football right now.
    Agreed. A lot of people thought FSU was elite then the last 2 weeks against BC and Clemson showed they are good not elite. Really think it's wide open this year and it will just be who's hot at the end. USC or Oregon could sneak in. Does Texas have enough for a run? Was ND just OSU's turd game they seem to have every year? A lot of questions this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg View Post
    The reason you didn't is because it's not. However MS7 (which is the conversation you entered) said they do have a massive drop off. The Drop off they have right now is due to replacing a seasoned QB and some skill positions.

    Our OC has done a piss poor job installing this offense. Our OL in an 11 or 12 is confused and it's hurting our chances of winning. We are about to enter the meat of our schedule and are 4 games into the season. We are running 11 personnel 74% of the time.
    If Bobo was the OC last year they are not 5th in scoring and they don't win that OSU playoff game. He is a drop off by himself. Just with his scheme, play calling, nature, tendencies his offense is easier to defend than Monken. They still may end up a Top 30 type offense, good but not great and a drop off. We will see if it picks up later in the year but it's not a buy right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    Agreed. A lot of people thought FSU was elite then the last 2 weeks against BC and Clemson showed they are good not elite. Really think it's wide open this year and it will just be who's hot at the end. USC or Oregon could sneak in. Does Texas have enough for a run? Was ND just OSU's turd game they seem to have every year? A lot of questions this year.
    IMO it actually makes the year more fun and exciting because it really is kinda wide open and a surprise team may wind up winning it all(which probably won't happen), but still it makes it more interesting to me because I think at this point its an "Any Given Saturday" type year.

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