We Took Leach For Granted

[Cowbell]

Some of y'all have a different memory than I do of leach. I remember us sucking against most SEC teams the first couple years and I remember two years of having to purge the "malcontents". You got to let Zac rebuild this team the way he sees it.

[msstate7]

Some of y'all have a different memory than I do of leach. I remember us sucking against most SEC teams the first couple years and I remember two years of having to purge the "malcontents". You got to let Zac rebuild this team the way he sees it.

We have no choice now, so yeah, we need to just try and be patient while hoping for the best

[Quaoarsking]

This team isn't last years team. We can move on from that. We lost more than most realize. That offense last year was abysmal too. It scored 2 more points against LSU than this one.

Last year, the FPI ranking of our offense was #44. Not spectacular (for comparison our defense was #11), but this year (through 3 games only, so there's time to change in either direction) our offense is at #78 and defense #60.

We are far worse on both sides of the ball. Thanks Zach.

[Quaoarsking]

Some of y'all have a different memory than I do of leach. I remember us sucking against most SEC teams the first couple years and I remember two years of having to purge the "malcontents". You got to let Zac rebuild this team the way he sees it.

There's a huge difference in giving a Hall of Fame coach extra time when he had history of winning at less prestigious schools. We all knew in our hearts that Leach was going to turn us into a great program, and had he not tragically died, we'd be reaping the benefits right now.

On the other hand, Arnett has nothing on his resume that suggests he can tear down a team and build it back up in his image. All evidence suggests that he's just sunk the program. You'd have to be extremely optimistic to think that he'll ever get us back to where we were in 2022 (top 20). I hope I'm wrong and he calls me out personally.

[Activated Alpha]

Could we within the realm of possibility hire Urban? He wouldn?t have the pressure to win National championship here like he did everywhere else

[Santiago]

One thing for sure, our drives under Leach could eat up clock. Imagine that ball control this year with the clock rules. I wonder just how much did Arnett consider the new rules instead of throwing out the entire air raid system.
I like CZA, but I though last year when hired that he said he did not want to change very much.

Still not understanding letting Hollingshead go.

[BlackSailsDawg]

We did at times. This team isn't putting up what 2022 did against Arizona and auburn and ark amd Aggie.

If we weren't going to run the air raid, we should have told will to leave and gotten a qb. Hard truth, because I really like will.

It's not even that. Barbay did the same thing at App State with a SR returning QB and RBs. Look at the drop off in wins.

This isn't about him getting his players in. This is about him as an OC. He sucks at teaching the system he is trying to learn.

[Todd4State]

We probably win 9 in 2021 with Leach if we had a kicker. The Air Raid finished fifth in PPG in SEC only games in 2021.

We would have been much better on offense this year with it being year four and Tulu, Creed, Zavion, and Robinson being the primary receivers along with Walley.

All Zach had to do was hire someone that would update the version of the Air Raid we ran some. He chose not to do that because he bought a line from Barbay. Now we all get to suffer.

[BlackSailsDawg]

Last year, the FPI ranking of our offense was #44. Not spectacular (for comparison our defense was #11), but this year (through 3 games only, so there's time to change in either direction) our offense is at #78 and defense #60.

We are far worse on both sides of the ball. Thanks Zach.

YEP!

[Todd4State]

Could we within the realm of possibility hire Urban? He wouldn?t have the pressure to win National championship here like he did everywhere else

Not with his baggage.

[Todd4State]

And for some reason I don't understand MSU fans have always given Arnett a pass for his defense which routinely finished 7th in the SEC. That's not bad. But it's not been that great either really. Pretty average.

[BlackSailsDawg]

We probably win 9 in 2021 with Leach if we had a kicker. The Air Raid finished fifth in PPG in SEC only games in 2021.

We would have been much better on offense this year with it being year four and Tulu, Creed, Zavion, and Robinson being the primary receivers along with Walley.

All Zach had to do was hire someone that would update the version of the Air Raid we ran some. He chose not to do that because he bought a line from Barbay. Now we all get to suffer.

An Unproven HC hired an UNPROVEN OC and people still want to blame the players.

[Cooterpoot]

Barbay and Brock have been terrible at their jobs. The talent is underwhelming too in a lot of spots. OL is trash, QB is a problem, TE is nonexistent, LB is slow, no real pass rushing DEs on the roster ready to play because of our scheme (3-3-5). Nobody to lock down the edge.
State fans just continue to suffer

[TrapGame]

Could we within the realm of possibility hire Urban? He wouldn?t have the pressure to win National championship here like he did everywhere else

No. There's a conversation between Ryan Day and Urban after Day was called by Cohen and asked if he was interested in our job after Dan left. Urban thinks we're a lower than shit program.

We might have a shot at Willie Fritz, maybe, but I really wouldn't be surprised if we brought back Dan.

[Quaoarsking]

I really wouldn't be surprised if we brought back Dan.

[msstate7]

Everyone knows I'd love this. I do wonder how the transfer portal would mix with his development/RS design though

[dawgday166]

Everyone knows I'd love this. I do wonder how the transfer portal would mix with his development/RS design though

Calm down dude. Don't get too many erotic thoughts just yet *****

[Quaoarsking]

Everyone knows I'd love this. I do wonder how the transfer portal would mix with his development/RS design though

IF (that's a big if) Mullen was willing to give 100% at trying to win championships, I think he could be more successful here in his 2nd stint than he was in his 1st. The question is does he care enough to really commit.

[msstate7]

Calm down dude. Don't get too many erotic thoughts just yet *****

Too late

[Todd4State]

IF (that's a big if) Mullen was willing to give 100% at trying to win championships, I think he could be more successful here in his 2nd stint than he was in his 1st. The question is does he care enough to really commit.

That's a huge IF that we all know the answer to.

We've suffered enough. The one good season with Dan wouldn't be worth the recruiting damage and the impending looking to leave ASAP.