NCAA Baseball Transfer Portal

[Coach34]

This from the poster that has led the charge of being critical of all msu coaches. That must have been one hell of a poster lemonis signed for you.

Nobody has yet named a pitcher beside Holman and possibly Burns that are Friday night SEC guys. No other names? Are we Pearl-clutching over 2 guys?

[confucius say]

If he never wanted to come here, maybe they shoulda moved on to someone who did.

His family and camp were telling us and people in the area that he wanted to come here. They reached out months ago and said he wants to be here. We never talked to him because we couldn't, obviously. But his entire camp wants him here and said he wanted to be here. That's why people on here, including me, were so confident.

[confucius say]

Easy. HS recruiting is done 2-3 years before they make it to campus. These top 10 classes saw us make Omaha. Next year and on we get to the kids who saw us miss Hoover and Lemo almost get fired

Fair

[confucius say]

That was Pre-portal and pre-NIL too

Lemon is not having trouble recruiting regularly. 2022 was 5th in country and those guys will ball this Spring. 9th in the country this class.

The portal is what’s different from Cohen, Cann, and the former regime

The portal argument makes sense if we're getting outbid in the portal. Otherwise, doesn't compute.

[confucius say]

Nobody has yet named a pitcher beside Holman and possibly Burns that are Friday night SEC guys. No other names? Are we Pearl-clutching over 2 guys?

Mason Molina. Went to Arkansas.

[msstate7]

Nobody has yet named a pitcher beside Holman and possibly Burns that are Friday night SEC guys. No other names? Are we Pearl-clutching over 2 guys?

I'm Pearl clutching over being abysmal for 2 straight years. Him missing on his targets this offseason hasn't changed my mind

[msstate7]

Mason Molina. Went to Arkansas.

Gonna be hard to get portal kids to what appears to be a rebuild when other programs are ready to win

[Coach34]

Mason Molina. Went to Arkansas.

Lol- seriously? The guy that gave up 17 ER’s in only 30.1 innings of Big 12 baseball? Shirley you aren’t calling him a Friday guy

[Homedawg]

What is Faulk talking about on Montgomery on 247?

Just running his pie hole basically.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Lol- seriously? The guy that gave up 17 ER’s in only 30.1 innings of Big 12 baseball? Shirley you aren’t calling him a Friday guy

Better ERA than Holcombe or Loo but you're counting on them

I love how you completely flip your views on how important stats are whenever it suits you

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

That was Pre-portal and pre-NIL too

Lemon is not having trouble recruiting regularly. 2022 was 5th in country and those guys will ball this Spring. 9th in the country this class.

The portal is what’s different from Cohen, Cann, and the former regime

That makes no sense at all lol

So coaches at State can recruit top 10 classes and get us to Omaha, but no coach at State would be able to land a Portal transfer? What?

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Nobody has yet named a pitcher beside Holman and possibly Burns that are Friday night SEC guys. No other names? Are we Pearl-clutching over 2 guys?

1) We're "pearl clutching" over our failure to get the new blood we needed to improve our #13 in the SEC team

2) You yourself have said in this very thread that Lemo failed in the Portal this season lol

3) you want to talk pitching transfers?? Ok:

LSU actually landed 2 guys who are better than anyone we got and a UCLA loto ticket who may be a stud.

Arky landed Molina.

TN landed a guy with a high 90s FB and a 3.16 ERA that was sought after by Arky and LSU.

Florida landed a starter from UCLA who had a 3.39 ERA in 82IP.

South Carolina landed starter and conference pitcher of the year with a 3.36 ERA in 82IP.

Kentucky added a starter and Collegiate Baseball 2nd team all American who had a 2.77 ERA in 104IP.

Vandy added a great reliever/possible starter next year- 2.84 ERA in 50IP

Auburn added a starter from UAB- 3.52 ERA in 71IP.

A&m added a couple nice bullpen arms with sub 3.5 ERAs

Literally EVERY SINGLE ONE of these pitchers would have helped us in '24. Every. Single. One. And we got 1 decent arm in Ligon, that's it. Why is Kentucky and Auburn pulling better pitchers than us? Or are you going to say "there's no way we could ever win a recruiting battle with them" like you do for LSU?

You have such a looser mentality in this sport. I disagree with Todd but at least he agrees our program is better than A&M or Kentucky. You're over here trying to convince us to accept getting lapped by everyone in the SEC in a sport we won a Natty in 2 years ago

[Coach34]

That makes no sense at all lol

So coaches at State can recruit top 10 classes and get us to Omaha, but no coach at State would be able to land a Portal transfer? What?

Ok- I’ll type slower to help you understand. HS recruits don’t command the NIL and other attention that proven SEC or other P5 players demand. LSU landed Tommy, LSU landed Skenes, LSU landed Holman. That’s not a coincidence and it’s not going to change anytime soon. Then throw in Tenn, Fla, Candy, etc

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

Ok- I’ll type slower to help you understand. HS recruits don’t command the NIL and other attention that proven SEC or other P5 players demand. LSU landed Tommy, LSU landed Skenes, LSU landed Holman. That’s not a coincidence and it’s not going to change anytime soon. Then throw in Tenn, Fla, Candy, etc

Ahh yes, NIL powerhouse Vanderbilt. How could we ever expect to compete with that lol

[Leroy Jenkins]

Ahh yes, NIL powerhouse Vanderbilt. How could we ever expect to compete with that lol

NIL money probably goes a lot further when you don't have to pay tuition.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

NIL money probably goes a lot further when you don't have to pay tuition.

Not when 500k for an OF is supposedly getting thrown around. That makes the 30k or so scholarship difference fairly small in comparison.

But regardless, C34 is just throwing stuff at the wall. Like a perfect game 10 that's a top 5 draft pic bit wants to play college is 100% someone LSU is interested in having. The idea they'd not use NIL on a HS stud makes no sense. NIL is absolutely being used on HS kids.

And he won't address the fact that schools like Kentucky got better pitching transfers than us. What, am I supposed to believe their baseball NIL is out of our league too? It's simple. Lemo is a lame duck coach and nobody wants to play their last year of college on a sinking ship.

[Leroy Jenkins]

30k a year in tuition and fees,(Vandy 55k) multiplied by 32 players. Roughly a million bucks, that doesn't need to come from the NIL pool. That's a good little bit of change.

[confucius say]

Lol- seriously? The guy that gave up 17 ER?s in only 30.1 innings of Big 12 baseball? Shirley you aren?t calling him a Friday guy

16 starts
83 innings
108 strikeouts
3.67 era
1.17 whip
.208 batting average against
Was their ace. Would absolutely be ours.

Also, where are you getting those stats? TTU site says in conference play he threw 42 innings, 53 k, 20 runs, 4.29 era, 1.24 whip, 8 starts.

https://texastech.com/sports/baseball/stats/2023

So yes, I'm dead serious. As is Dave Van Horn.

[Quaoarsking]

Personally I'm "pearl clurching" because I knew we were in line to suck again next year, but the sunshine squad insisted we wouldn't because Lemonis would make us better in the transfer portal. Turns out I was right and they were wrong.

We'll probably be a little bit better next year, maybe sneak into a Regional as a 3 seed, and the same people will be saying you can't fire a coach who made a Regional, and we'll continue our slide into long-term mediocrity when we could have halted it in May 2023.

[Really Clark?]

Personally I'm "pearl clurching" because I knew we were in line to suck again next year, but the sunshine squad insisted we wouldn't because Lemonis would make us better in the transfer portal. Turns out I was right and they were wrong.

We'll probably be a little bit better next year, maybe sneak into a Regional as a 3 seed, and the same people will be saying you can't fire a coach who made a Regional, and we'll continue our slide into long-term mediocrity when we could have halted it in May 2023.

I would have probably let him go after this season. But in all fairness I haven't seen not one poster who advocated for him to stay for next year also state that barely making a regional as a 3 seed is close to good enough to keep his job. That's not happening and nobody is advocating that.