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					A good M&W Nation artilce on Barbay's offense, what to expect, accomplishments, etc.
				
				
						
							
							
						
						
				
					
						
							What to Expect From Mississippi State?s Offense in 2023
https://maroonandwhitenation.com/202...-offense-2023/
    From the Schumann Explosive Plays Report:
    Current 4 star or better ranked current G5 OCs that in 2022 had an Explosive Pass Rate Percentage above 19% with a top 35 scoring efficiency offense
    Chadwell Liberty (HC)
    Barbay App State
    That is all.
    — Dave Bartoo (@CFBMatrix) January 12, 2023
    Found this interesting as I was going through updated career grades and performance metrics for OCs after 2022.
    Career avg pass game efficiency
    1. Barbay
    2. Briles
    3. Kittley
    4. Ruggiero https://t.co/v05UKgY0ze
    — Dave Bartoo (@CFBMatrix) January 12, 2023
    Out of ALL OCs since 2009 career FBS averages and ranking percentile for Barbay –
    QB rating 149.44 (top 25% of all OCS)
    Yds/Attempt 7.99 (top 31%)
    Pass TD per Attempt (top 16%)
    INT per attempt (top 21%)
    Total QB Efficiency (top 25%) https://t.co/TqqAx6E42Q
    — Dave Bartoo (@CFBMatrix) January 12,
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
				
				
					
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							This guy knows nothing.  How does he not realize this an old fashioned pro-style offense?****
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
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				This guy knows nothing.  How does he not realize this an old fashioned pro-style offense?****
			
		 
	 
 Wait wait wait, Barbay's offense actually uses a forward pass?!?  That cannot be accurate.***
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
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							This is actually a really good article. Sounds like Arnett found a good coach who has modernized his offense. Love the explosive pass plays that his offense calls for.
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
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yjnkdawg
					
				 
				What to Expect From Mississippi State?s Offense in 2023
https://maroonandwhitenation.com/202...-offense-2023/
    From the Schumann Explosive Plays Report:
    Current 4 star or better ranked current G5 OCs that in 2022 had an Explosive Pass Rate Percentage above 19% with a top 35 scoring efficiency offense
    Chadwell Liberty (HC)
    Barbay App State
    That is all.
    — Dave Bartoo (@CFBMatrix) January 12, 2023
    Found this interesting as I was going through updated career grades and performance metrics for OCs after 2022.
    Career avg pass game efficiency
    1. Barbay
    2. Briles
    3. Kittley
    4. Ruggiero 
https://t.co/v05UKgY0ze
    — Dave Bartoo (@CFBMatrix) January 12, 2023
    Out of ALL OCs since 2009 career FBS averages and ranking percentile for Barbay –
    QB rating 149.44 (top 25% of all OCS)
    Yds/Attempt 7.99 (top 31%)
    Pass TD per Attempt (top 16%)
    INT per attempt (top 21%)
    Total QB Efficiency (top 25%) 
https://t.co/TqqAx6E42Q
    — Dave Bartoo (@CFBMatrix) January 12,
 
			
		 
	 
 KB said we were running the triple option.  So these are lies.***
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
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				KB said we were running the triple option.  So these are lies.***
			
		 
	 
 Leave him along he wanted to stay with the air raid like TCU runs, which runs the ball more than Barbay's offenses do. 😭🤣😂
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
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							I'm trying to find that cloud of dust after we run the ball 3 downs every series and then punt***. I can't find  any dust or a cloud either, but maybe somebody smarter than me can. 
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
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				I'm trying to find that cloud of dust after we run the ball 3 downs every series and then punt***. I can't find  any dust or a cloud either, but maybe somebody smarter than me can. 

 
			
		 
	 
 Go watch film of this offense at Florida when McElwain and Barbay were there.
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
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				Leave him along he wanted to stay with the air raid like TCU runs, which runs the ball more than Barbay's offenses do. 
			
		 
	 
 You mean the AR that UGA ran.
 
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
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KB21
					
				 
				Go watch film of this offense at Florida when McElwain and Barbay were there.
			
		 
	 
 Yeah, he was under McElwain?.but in watching film from UF during that time and also his time at App State, there?s some noticeable growth on his part.  But let?s be real here?.UF was no slouch during McElwain?s tenure - he just happened to come along the same time that Bama/Saban were in their absolute prime.  Can?t hold that against either of them.
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
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KB21
					
				 
				Go watch film of this offense at Florida when McElwain and Barbay were there.
			
		 
	 
 So go to 2017 (6 years ago) and watch the offense that McElwain ran, even though we hired Barbay who isn't McElwain.
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
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Westdawg
					
				 
				Yeah, he was under McElwain?.but in watching film from UF during that time and also his time at App State, there?s some noticeable growth on his part.  But let?s be real here?.UF was no slouch during McElwain?s tenure - he just happened to come along the same time that Bama/Saban were in their absolute prime.  Can?t hold that against either of them.
			
		 
	 
 Florida's offense never rated higher than 100th in scoring offense during McElwain's time there.
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
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KB21
					
				 
				Florida's offense never rated higher than 100th in scoring offense during McElwain's time there.
			
		 
	 
 You do know that Mcelwain & Barbay are two different people correct? I'm not sure you realize this but they are my man. Barbay runs a modernized offense. It is what it is & there's not really much anything you can say that changes these facts.
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
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KB21
					
				 
				Florida's offense never rated higher than 100th in scoring offense during McElwain's time there.
			
		 
	 
 I really don't see any relevance  concerning what Florida's offense did to what Barbay will do at MSU,  but keep on trolling if it makes you happy.
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
				
				
					
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 Originally Posted by 
662dawg
					
				 
				You do know that Mcelwain & Barbay are two different people correct? I'm not sure you realize this but they are my man. Barbay runs a modernized offense. It is what it is & there's not really much anything you can say that changes these facts.
			
		 
	 
 Not to mention that Barbary was Director of Player Personnel at UF - he wasn't even an on field coach.  Doug Nusmeier was OC at UF
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
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 Originally Posted by 
KB21
					
				 
				Florida's offense never rated higher than 100th in scoring offense during McElwain's time there.
			
		 
	 
 Barbay wasn't even an on the field coach during that time.
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
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Really Clark?
					
				 
				Barbay wasn't even an on the field coach during that time.
			
		 
	 
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 Originally Posted by 
Really Clark?
					
				 
				Barbay wasn't even an on the field coach during that time.
			
		 
	 
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				Not to mention that Barbary was Director of Player Personnel at UF - he wasn't even an on field coach.  Doug Nusmeier was OC at UF
			
		 
	 
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