So, there's another Stansbury Transfer lighting the world on fire...

[tcdog70]

With all you older guys patting Stans on the back and contributing to the dumpster fire he left behind, we can blame no one but you and your group for the condition of the program. You shouldn't have had your nose up Stans ass so far and you might have seen the smelled the shit sooner.

Hell Yes, now here is a Classic Post. It's the Old guys fault. All that patting on back is what did it. Excuse while I wipe the shit off my nose!

[engie]

You are truly clueless if you don't know why we were forced to keep Sidney. And don't need a link that is coming from someone who wore the same jersey as he did.

Ahhh...

So, you admit that Stansbury is an idiot that put his balls in a sling. So, ultimately, in trying to take up for him, you just further proved my point.

Amazingly, DeVille and Long have both turned it around and been productive at their new schools -- while hearing ZERO PEEPS of off the court troubles. Crazy how that works when they get away from the culture Stans cultivated, huh?

Midseason Stansbury transfer putting up 20 a game. I thought only RAY had players leave midseason?

[engie]

where is your link that Sidney started a fight in the stands? I thought Bailey started the fight

I can't see it for you.

But in your rush to spin, it's obvious you won't see the actual aggressor in this fight.

[thf24]

where is your link that Sidney started a fight in the stands? I thought Bailey started the fight

I believe it was firmly established at the time that Bailey instigated it, Sidney started it.

edit: and then there's that /\/\/\

[Raytoraid83]

Ahhh...

So, you admit that Stansbury is an idiot that put his balls in a sling. So, ultimately, in trying to take up for him, you just further proved my point.

Amazingly, DeVille and Long have both turned it around and been productive at their new schools -- while hearing ZERO PEEPS of off the court troubles. Crazy how that works when they get away from the culture Stans cultivated, huh?

Midseason Stansbury transfer putting up 20 a game. I thought only RAY had players leave midseason?

Hey man found a link you'll like




http://www.theadvertiser.com/article...third-straight

[Political Hack]

Shawn Long at ULL. Thanks D@A for calling my attention to it.

Here's his post.


He left in January of his freshman(redshirt) year for ULL without ever playing a minute for us. Now projected as a first rounder by some.

If only Rick Ray wouldn't have let he, Gardner, DeVille, and Hood leave, where would we be?!?!***

and I got ripped for calling the guy a stud. he's a freak. happy to see him doing well.

[engie]

Hey man found a link you'll like

http://www.theadvertiser.com/article...third-straight

But everyone wants Ray to recruit like Stansbury -- so this stuff should be encouraged right**

"Conduct detrimental to the team" can be anything. One whole game is a far cry from "kicked off the team".

[Dawg61]

One of the most popular games we played with Stansbury is the "what if" game. How many games does

PG Josh Gray/Deville Smith
SG Craig Sword
SF Rod Hood/Dev Pollard/Fred Thomas
PF Shawn Long/Roq Johnson/Colin Borchert
C Gavin Ware

Win? Too bad Stansbury can't keep all his talent and too bad Rick Ray can't sign any talent. Now what are we to do?

[Political Hack]

also, long transferred because he got a girl preganant back home. hard to blame a guy for doing the stand up thing and going back.

[Brad Stevens]

One of the most popular games we played with Stansbury is the "what if" game. How many games does

PG Josh Gray/Deville Smith
SG Craig Sword
SF Rod Hood/Dev Pollard/Fred Thomas
PF Shawn Long/Roq Johnson/Colin Borchert
C Gavin Ware

Win? Too bad Stansbury can't keep all his talent and too bad Rick Ray can't sign any talent. Now what are we to do?

We probably win more games than if Travis Outlaw came to State in 2003, because he blows **

[MadDawg]

"Conduct detrimental to the team" can be anything. One whole game is a far cry from "kicked off the team".

Also a far cry from "while hearing ZERO PEEPS of off the court troubles".

[Dawg61]

We probably win more games than if Travis Outlaw came to State in 2003, because he blows **

We would of gotten Outlaw for one year. He scored 8 points and got 4 rebounds TOTAL for his entire rookie season. What a difference maker he would of been for one year for MSU.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelo.../travis-outlaw

[drunkernhelldawg]

Stansbury went 14-16 in year 2 with a team he built for a decade.

That's pretty misleading. Our team was totally decimated after the Final Four appearance in 1996.

[whosyourdawgy]

This is exactly why I remember the midseason transfer for Long. He left to be closer to home. I also remember Long being well liked by all the players and happy to be here. He got a girl pregnant and transferred back home to be close to her. Take that for what it's worth.

[engie]

Also a far cry from "while hearing ZERO PEEPS of off the court troubles".

Oh well -- only Ray has players transfer mid-season, am I right?!?**

[Brad Stevens]

We would of gotten Outlaw for one year. He scored 8 points and got 4 rebounds TOTAL for his entire rookie season. What a difference maker he would of been for one year for MSU.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelo.../travis-outlaw

I want you to think about the words you just typed. You just admitted we would only have him for one year (implying he would go in the NBA draft after one year). Then, you included his NBA rookie stats as to why he wouldn't be a difference-maker in the college game. That's the same thing as saying a guy who averages 8 ppg in college would be of no use to his high school team (where he would most likely score well above 8 ppg). Do you understand? Not to mention, the 2003-2004 team was one of our best ever.

[Dawg61]

I want you to think about the words you just typed. You just admitted we would only have him for one year (implying he would go in the NBA draft after one year). Then, you included his NBA rookie stats as to why he wouldn't be a difference-maker in the college game. That's the same thing as saying a guy who averages 8 ppg in college would be of no use to his high school team (where he would most likely score well above 8 ppg). Do you understand? Not to mention, the 2003-2004 team was one of our best ever.

Brad you're changing the argument in two ways. The argument was how good could we of been if the one and done rules were in place back then. Meaning we get Monta, Bender or Outlaw for just one year. (Although after that one year Outlaw wouldn't of been drafted because he sucks but nvm on that). The second way you're changing the argument is by saying Outlaw averaged 8 points a game. No he didn't. He scored a TOTAL of 8 points in his ENTIRE rookie season. Outlaw got drafted because he's a physical freak of nature. Basketball skill wise he's not NBA talent worthy at all. Let this argument go. You disagree with my assessment of Travis Outlaw. Fine. Who gives a shit.

[C222]

I want you to think about the words you just typed. You just admitted we would only have him for one year (implying he would go in the NBA draft after one year). Then, you included his NBA rookie stats as to why he wouldn't be a difference-maker in the college game. That's the same thing as saying a guy who averages 8 ppg in college would be of no use to his high school team (where he would most likely score well above 8 ppg). Do you understand? Not to mention, the 2003-2004 team was one of our best ever.

I am glad someone pointed out how insanely dumb his post was. He is trying to say he wouldn't have been good in college because of his stats....IN THE F'N NBA! Holy hell. That may have been one of the worst posts in the history of message boards.

[MadDawg]

Oh well -- only Ray has players transfer mid-season, am I right?!?**

Since I've never said that, I don't know if it's true or not. Question though, if you are honest enough to answer, is there a difference in your mind between a player transferring mid-season who is redshirting and has never played versus a player transferring midseason who is getting playing time?

[Brad Stevens]

Okay, that's my fault. I misread your post. I did think you said 8 ppg. Apologies. Regardless, I still believe most anyone would have liked to have him as a sixth man of our 2003-2004 SEC-winning, 2-seed team that consisted of Bowers/Frazier/Power/Roberts/Vincent.

I also only made the Outlaw comment as a joke. It's just ironic to me that the same guy who is advocating for all types of new players now is shunning an NBA player that we signed. I can completely understand your frustrations with the talent level at MSU now, I'm just confused why you think Travis Outlaw wouldn't merit a one year scholarship on the SEC championship team? I don't see the logic in it -- that's all.