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				Sure thing. Useful idiots typically struggle seeing that they?re being used. Maybe your intelligence and self awareness rival one another. It?s fine that you are a fool.
			
		 
	 
 Lol.  So I don't even know my own beliefs now?   sure bud, great case you're making there.  Your intelligence is sure shining through.
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
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				So, you agree what a vaccine can do a whole lot of good even if it is "leaky", that some vaxed can still catch or transmit the disease?
Newsflash bud, they changed it because the definition was always scientifically wrong, it's just that Noone noticed or cared before.  There was no "need" to change it to match some incorrect perception that the covid Vax isn't a vaccine.  (Which by the way is part of the fallacy you are calling me a liar for pointing out).  Here you are repeating the fallacy that you called me a liar over!
			
		 
	 
 LMAO. Yea I?m sure that?s exactly why they changed it. Literally spitting drink out laughing so hard. Dak is right. USEFUL IDIOT. And a LIAR that still can?t admit you lied about what I said. 100% USEFUL IDIOT 😂
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
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					12-19-2021, 01:37 PM
				
			
			
				
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				Lol.  So I don't even know my own beliefs now?   sure bud, great case you're making there.  Your intelligence is sure shining through.
			
		 
	 
 You are the one claiming that all laws like speeding laws are in place for safety because the government cares about folks. It wasn?t until you were called on how stupid that was and explained to how you are being used that now suddenly you are the world?s biggest skeptic. You seem confused, but that?s not all that surprising after reading most of your posts in this thread. 😂
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
				
				
				
					
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				That's pretty surprising to me. Perhaps I read you wrong... this would be the 2nd or 3rd time I've been wrong on this board hah
			
		 
	 
 I don't rank Manchin #1 because I agree with him the most on the issues, just that I appreciate the fact that someone from West Virginia of all places is the difference in Biden's agenda passing (well, some of it at least...) and none of it passing. And despite all of Manchin's rhetoric and grandstanding, he generally comes through in the end after making some inconsequential change he can make a lot of hay over.
ETA - I like this take from Matt Yglesias (my favorite political Twitter follow)
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				LMAO. Yea I?m sure that?s exactly why they changed it. Literally spitting drink out laughing so hard. Dak is right. USEFUL IDIOT. And a LIAR that still can?t admit you lied about what I said. 100% USEFUL IDIOT 😂
			
		 
	 
 Um, yeah, as we've known for fact for a long time that vaccines aren't 100%.  You didn't know that, and you have the gall to call someone else dumb?  Whatever man, go on with your little fantasy world.
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
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				Um, yeah, as we've known for fact for a long time that vaccines aren't 100%.  You didn't know that, and you have the gall to call someone else dumb?  Whatever man, go on with your little fantasy world.
			
		 
	 
 One need not be a Rhodes scholar to identify the vast majority of fools.
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
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					12-19-2021, 02:05 PM
				
			
			
				
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				You are the one claiming that all laws like speeding laws are in place for safety because the government cares about folks. It wasn?t until you were called on how stupid that was and explained to how you are being used that now suddenly you are the worlds biggest skeptic. You seem confused, but that?s not all that surprising after reading most of your posts in this thread. 😂
			
		 
	 
 That's not actually quite what I said, and you said nothing I did not already know.  You did not explain a thing, if it's not already clear let me clue you in that you don't appear to know anything that I don't already know.  You sure as hell haven't dropped anything resembling wisdom in this thread.  The confusion is not on my end.  
But yes, most of the people voting into place and enforcing traffic laws do so for safety.  There's not some massive, secret grift fund that all the state legislators and city alderman and all cops are in on.  I never said the government cares about folks.  Most legislators could really not give a shit, but at least they vote yes before they head off for a 3 drink lunch.
Pro tip, this is actually literally the only thing the Gingrich Congress did.  They came into power on the Contract with America, and their first vote was to relax speed limits on highways.  States only after that had the ability to set them wherever they wanted, previously it was 55mph.  And each of the many state votes that followed set new limits based on safety.  No one gave a shit about fuel conservation, this was the 90s not the 70s.  After that vote the GOP tried to kill the Clean Water Act, blatant grifting.
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
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				One need not be a Rhodes scholar to identify the vast majority of fools.
			
		 
	 
 A Rhodes scholar knows what a logical fallacy is, and doesn't call people liars that point them out.   Good day.
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
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					12-19-2021, 02:08 PM
				
			
			
				
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				That's not actually quite what I said, and you said nothing I did not already know.  You did not explain a thing, if it's not already clear let me clue you in that you don't appear to know anything that I don't already know.  You sure as hell haven't dropped anything resembling wisdom in this thread.  The confusion is not on my end.  
But yes, most of the people voting into place and enforcing traffic laws do so for safety.  There's not some massive, secret grift fund that all the state legislators and city alderman and all cops are in on.  I never said the government cares about folks.  Most legislators could really not give a shit, but at least they vote yes before they head off for a 3 drink lunch.
Pro tip, this is actually literally the only thing the Gingrich Congress did.  They came into power on the Contract with America, and their first vote was to relax speed limits on highways.  States only after that had the ability to set them wherever they wanted, previously it was 55mph.  And each of the many state votes that followed set new limits based on safety.  No one gave a shit about fuel conservation, this was the 90s not the 70s.  After that vote the GOP tried to kill the Clean Water Act, blatant grifting.
			
		 
	 
 Useful idiot. 
Pro tip, Read up on the term. Look hard in the mirror. They probably won?t include your picture by the definition, but atleast now you?ll know where you can see an example.
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
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					12-19-2021, 02:11 PM
				
			
			
				
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				Useful idiot. Read up on the term. Look hard in the mirror. They probably won?t include your picture by the definition, but atleast now you?ll know where you can see an example.
			
		 
	 
 Dak, don't get him started on "statistics", "sample size", "SD", "data analytics" etc. 
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				A Rhodes scholar knows what a logical fallacy is, and doesn't call people liars that point them out.   Good day.
			
		 
	 
 It doesn?t take a Rhodes scholar to call out someone who lied on them. I would have called it a mistake but you continue to state that I said something I did not say. That?s fallacy & a lie. You are obviously not the sharpest knife in anyones drawer. I hope this helps.
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
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					12-19-2021, 02:22 PM
				
			
			
				
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				That's not actually quite what I said, and you said nothing I did not already know.  You did not explain a thing, if it's not already clear let me clue you in that you don't appear to know anything that I don't already know.  You sure as hell haven't dropped anything resembling wisdom in this thread.  The confusion is not on my end.  
But yes, most of the people voting into place and enforcing traffic laws do so for safety.  There's not some massive, secret grift fund that all the state legislators and city alderman and all cops are in on.  I never said the government cares about folks.  Most legislators could really not give a shit, but at least they vote yes before they head off for a 3 drink lunch.
Pro tip, this is actually literally the only thing the Gingrich Congress did.  They came into power on the Contract with America, and their first vote was to relax speed limits on highways.  States only after that had the ability to set them wherever they wanted, previously it was 55mph.  And each of the many state votes that followed set new limits based on safety.  No one gave a shit about fuel conservation, this was the 90s not the 70s.  After that vote the GOP tried to kill the Clean Water Act, blatant grifting.
			
		 
	 
 The clean water act signed by out going Clinton that would have been almost impossible for local water utilities to adhere to?  He and the Dems knew repubs would have to reverse it so the "repubs hate clean water" headline could hit CNN for 3 straight weeks.  Kinda funny he did that after waiting 8 years; no?
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
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				It doesn?t take a Rhodes scholar to call out someone who lied on them. I would have called it a mistake but you continue to state that I said something I did not say. That?s fallacy & a lie. You are obviously not the sharpest knife in anyones drawer. I hope this helps.
			
		 
	 
 I gave you the opportunity to prove it, and you didn't.   So please stop lying about me.
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
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					12-19-2021, 02:30 PM
				
			
			
				
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				Useful idiot. 
Pro tip, Read up on the term. Look hard in the mirror. They probably won?t include your picture by the definition, but atleast now you?ll know where you can see an example.
			
		 
	 
 Lol, not even a nice try there bud.  I really could teach you a thing or two, we are not that far off in views, but you've been too....foolish....in this thread to learn anything.  Which explains a lot.
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
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					12-19-2021, 02:31 PM
				
			
			
				
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Dak Holliday
					
				 
				Useful idiot. 
Pro tip, Read up on the term. Look hard in the mirror. They probably won?t include your picture by the definition, but atleast now you?ll know where you can see an example.
			
		 
	 
 
	
		
			
			
				
					
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TUSK
					
				 
				Dak, don't get him started on "statistics", "sample size", "SD", "data analytics" etc. 
That's where the fun is.....

 
			
		 
	 
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					12-19-2021, 02:32 PM
				
			
			
				
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				I gave you the opportunity to prove it, and you didn't.   So please stop lying about me.
			
		 
	 
 To prove what? 
You have literally admitted yourself that the definition was changed & followed it with a useful idiot type spin Lmao
You had the chance to say you made a mistake but you keep spinning it & now saying I haven?t proved it lol? Admit you made a mistake or just misunderstood & I?ll stop saying you lied.
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
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					12-19-2021, 02:37 PM
				
			
			
				
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							Scooba must be on vacation. Wish they'd open up the old political board again.
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
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					12-19-2021, 02:39 PM
				
			
			
				
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				Lol, not even a nice try there bud.  I really could teach you a thing or two, we are not that far off in views, but you've been too....foolish....in this thread to learn anything.  Which explains a lot.
			
		 
	 
 You want desperately to look intelligent. The Cool Einstein avatar. Selective big words that you hope others will see as signs of intellect. I?d love to learn a thing or two. It?s a goal of mine daily, but I doubt that you?re qualified or up to the task.
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
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					12-19-2021, 02:47 PM
				
			
			
				
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				Wish they'd open up the old political board again.
			
		 
	 
 I don't know, it can be fun to talk about this stuff, but is it really a productive use of time for everyone to talk at each other? Did anyone ever change their mind based on something they read there, or did people just dig in even more?
Back in the day, this exact scenario played out more than once in my house:
						
					 
					
				 
			 
			
			
		 
	 
		
	
 
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					12-19-2021, 02:51 PM
				
			
			
				
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				I don't know, it can be fun to talk about this stuff, but is it really a productive use of time for everyone to talk at each other? Did anyone ever change their mind based on something they read there, or did people just dig in even more?
Back in the day, this exact scenario played out more than once in my house:

 
			
		 
	 
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