OL Pounders decommits

[msbulldog]

It may not surprise you to find out that there is no one to be connected to. State is woefully behind the curve in many things recruiting. The only surprise I ever have is that we actually win some recruiting battles. It’s candy from a baby for Ole Miss.

You are wrong.

[FISHDAWG]

You are wrong.

was it K Rogers that was lobbying some of our boosters ? ... Sounds like a good place to start if you're looking

[ZedFedder]

This thread shows why you cannot get too high or low in recruiting. Getting John Lewis and securing MJ Daniels shows that the sky isn't falling. Pounders may become a great player, but he's a mid 3 star. His loss more than ours. It looks like we will finish strong.

[Bdawg]

This thread shows why you cannot get too high or low in recruiting. Getting John Lewis and securing MJ Daniels shows that the sky isn't falling. Pounders may become a great player, but he's a mid 3 star. His loss more than ours. It looks like we will finish strong.

Very true. Leach has seen a lot in his day, I'm sure. But there is a reason we are usually on the wrong side of losing recruits just short of signing day. Nowadays I really don't believe any recruit till I see the pen hit the paper.

[maroonmania]

I gotta $100 for a 5-star. Anyone know one on the take?**

I would assume if you look at the entire list of 5 stars you will have the full list of all those on the take.

[FISHDAWG]

What would happen if 10 people were willing to contribute 1000 dollars?

you would still be about $170K short

[DEDawg]

you would still be about $170K short

5 star generational type QB, yeah but Leach can get a good enough QB on his own. Let's start paying 25k for 5 star DE and WR

[maroonmania]

I don't buy this because Cohen & Keenum want to win.

If Bracky were truly the problem, he would've been removed.

I get that he's an easy target, but I just don't buy him as the problem.

I do think Cohen & Keenum definitely want to win. But you may be giving them way too much credit to believe that they somehow have the true ability to diagnose an issue that is keeping us from winning. Neither Keenum or Cohen have ever run a P5 football program or tried to recruit a high profile football player to a school that does not have the greatest of winning traditions. Cohen has recruited to MSU baseball but that is a piece of cake compared to recruiting to MSU football.

[maroonmania]

This thread shows why you cannot get too high or low in recruiting. Getting John Lewis and securing MJ Daniels shows that the sky isn't falling. Pounders may become a great player, but he's a mid 3 star. His loss more than ours. It looks like we will finish strong.

Losing a mid-tier OL recruit should not phase anyone or make anyone despair. OL recruits are the absolute toughest to project from HS to college, especially all the way to the Power 5. It seems most of our best OL stars over the years have been some of the least recruited. All in all it just seems to be a total crapshoot for that position. Just need to get someone with a good frame that has a mean streak and a desire to improve through taking to coaching.

[MarketingBully]

Daniels up next

You usually have great information but were completely wrong on this. Why were you so sure he would flip? The rumblings I?ve heard is he has been nothing but straight up with our coaches and his family have a great relationship with our staff. He has been all Dog and his confirmation today proves that. Just curious why you were so sure on this?

[Homedawg]

You usually have great information but were completely wrong on this. Why were you so sure he would flip? The rumblings I?ve heard is he has been nothing but straight up with our coaches and his family have a great relationship with our staff. He has been all Dog and his confirmation today proves that. Just curious why you were so sure on this?

It was a gut feeling along w some info. Wont go into any of it. But hey, at this juncture I'm wrong. And I'm glad. We want him and need him I'll eat the crow no biggie. But I don't get caught up at what any of them say on social media. For good or bad. That goes for all of them. Things change as they say.

[MarketingBully]

It was a gut feeling along w some info. Wont go into any of it. But hey, at this juncture I'm wrong. And I'm glad. We want him and need him I'll eat the crow no biggie. But I don't get caught up at what any of them say on social media. For good or bad. That goes for all of them. Things change as they say.

Gotcha. Glad you were wrong on this one. Glad your sources were wrong here too. From what I?ve seen of his recruitment, it looked like he was a straight shooter with our coaches and everything. Just wanted to understand where all the negativity was coming from.

[Dawgology]

You are wrong.

I can guarantee you I’m not. We are waaaaaaaaay behind in our shadow recruiting. Like...waaaaaaay behind. This is evidenced by our head to head recruiting results for 4-star+ players.

[confucius say]

I can guarantee you I’m not. We are waaaaaaaaay behind in our shadow recruiting. Like...waaaaaaay behind. This is evidenced by our head to head recruiting results for 4-star+ players.

What 4 star + players have we missed on head to head this year and where are those players going instead of here?

[Dawgology]

What 4 star + players have we missed on head to head this year and where are those players going instead of here?

This year none so far. But we haven’t squared off with many people other SEC schools this season.

[Jarius]

you would still be about $170K short

We paid Leo 10K. Most prospects don’t command that much. Ole Miss requires their boosters to donate 1K minimum to be a part of the process. They have different cells throughout the state.

[Matt3467]

I'm not saying Dawgology is right. I hope he's not, but if we're all honest with ourselves we've seen many 4 star players that we thought at some point were coming to State flip and go elsewhere, a lot to Ole Miss. Just off the top of my head I can name Kailo Moore, Nick Brassell, C.J. Johnson but I looked up a few others over the year and there's Charles Moore (btw we lose a lot of recruiting battles to Auburn and not just speaking about Cam), Deon Mix, A.J. Brown, Scott Lashley, Raekwon Davis, ???Can't remember if we were ever in it for Channing Ward or not??? These are just in state players I didn't look elsewhere. We've had huge wins too but one of those cases I know in particular for a fact we got him in spite of all the "extra curriculars" that were being thrown at him because (mainly) he just wanted to be at State.

Edit: btw I realize the last few were never committed to state but Brown and Lashley should have been locks and Raekwon Davis was thought by many to be coming to State.

[ZedFedder]

I'm not saying Dawgology is right. I hope he's not, but if we're all honest with ourselves we've seen many 4 star players that we thought at some point were coming to State flip and go elsewhere, a lot to Ole Miss. Just off the top of my head I can name Kailo Moore, Nick Brassell, C.J. Johnson but I looked up a few others over the year and there's Charles Moore (btw we lose a lot of recruiting battles to Auburn and not just speaking about Cam), Deon Mix, A.J. Brown, Scott Lashley, Raekwon Davis, ???Can't remember if we were ever in it for Channing Ward or not??? These are just in state players I didn't look elsewhere. We've had huge wins too but one of those cases I know in particular for a fact we got him in spite of all the "extra curriculars" that were being thrown at him because (mainly) he just wanted to be at State.

Edit: btw I realize the last few were never committed to state but Brown and Lashley should have been locks and Raekwon Davis was thought by many to be coming to State.

Raekwon and Lashley both committed to State for about 30 seconds. Lol

[Matt3467]

Raekwon and Lashley both committed to State for about 30 seconds. Lol

Wow I had forgotten all about that.

[Offshore Dawg]

5 star generational type QB, yeah but Leach can get a good enough QB on his own. Let's start paying 25k for 5 star DE and WR

Who's money are you using