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You are Sean Rawlings
What do you do? Me personally, my father would have never allowed me to commit and not honor it. Just how I was raised. My father loathes ole miss but he would have never allowed me to back out of my commitment. I figured the Rawlings were the same type of people. Guess not.
What would you do? No judgment either way.
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You go where your heart is and you want to play. Wish him the best wherever he decides to go.
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Cue "oh no, not this shit again" meme/gif.
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Originally Posted by
Ennis Del Mar
What do you do? Me personally, my father would have never allowed me to commit and not honor it. Just how I was raised. My father loathes ole miss but he would have never allowed me to back out of my commitment. I figured the Rawlings were the same type of people. Guess not.
What would you do? No judgment either way.
I just don't have a problem with what Rawlings did. We just have put our egos aside and realize that we all would have likely done the same thing if MSU was the school to offer late.
Just as the Kang used to say, "Kids that don't want to be at your school make excuses when they make mistakes or don't perform, however, kids that want to be at your school, suck it up and find a way to succeed." If you believe this quote to be true, then you probably also believe that, if Rawlings' heart is at Ole Miss, then that is where he needs to go.
With that being said, I would say that your dad would have been wrong and ultimately risked the potential success of your career by not allowing you to go the school that you really wanted to be at.
Last edited by ShotgunDawg; 01-29-2014 at 09:59 AM.
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I would have done the same thing he did. Ole Miss had not offered. He obviously wanted to play in the SEC/D1. MSU was his only offer. You take it. If you go back and read all the posts that his father put on 247, you will see he never said they would not consider an Ole Miss offer if it came. The posts are very carefully worded. That dream offer came in late and they took it. I don't fault them at all. He is playing where he wants. Congrats to him. I wish we could all move on. It bugs me that some try to down him for "not honoring his word" when we are trying to get Cory Thomas/Trey Carter to not "honor their word". This is recruiting. Some people need to grow some thicker skin in my opinion.
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Me in his shoes with roles reversed, I would switch my commitment the second I was offered even if it was as I was about to fax my LOI in. You go with your heart. Nothing else to it. IMO this has zero indication of "how he was raised". We flipped Fred Ross right before signing day and no one has questioned how he was raised. I strongly dislike that argument.
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Originally Posted by
BeastMan
Me in his shoes with roles reversed, I would switch my commitment the second I was offered even if it was as I was about to fax my LOI in. You go with your heart. Nothing else to it. IMO this has zero indication of "how he was raised". We flipped Fred Ross right before signing day and no one has questioned how he was raised. I strongly dislike that argument.
About the only thing you can criticize the Rawlings over is his Dad should have stayed off MSU message boards and interfacing with MSU fans given he had to know almost 100% that his son would flip at the first sign of an OM offer.
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I wouldnt let my kid do it.. It may not be popular... but in the same situation I would have shut down communication with the other school months ago. If I wasnt prepared to shut down communication I wouldnt have committed. Thats how I feel they all should be done even when it benefits us that kids dont do it that way. Truth is truth and lying is lying.
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Originally Posted by
thedawg
I wouldnt let my kid do it.. It may not be popular... but in the same situation I would have shut down communication with the other school months ago. If I wasnt prepared to shut down communication I wouldnt have committed. Thats how I feel they all should be done even when it benefits us that kids dont do it that way. Truth is truth and lying is lying.
That's easy to say but if he hadn't jumped on the MSU offer he might have lost it and had no options other than a non-BCS school. But that obviously didn't mean he wasn't looking for the OM offer. Keith Holcombe did the EXACT SAME THING to us its just that Bama offered much earlier in the process. Bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush as they say.
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There is no way to know who would have offered or not offered.... Whats wrong with the way that Stallings or Grant Harris have handled their recruitment?
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I would walk on at State before I took a scholarship at Ole Miss.
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Originally Posted by
smootness
I would walk on at State before I took a scholarship at Ole Miss.
There is that option too... If he was so dead set on going to Ole Miss his dad almost certainly could have paid for school at Ole Miss and he could have walked on. They are paying for school at MRA. Instead they essentially used us and lied to us in order try and position themselves to get a scholarship to Ole Miss. You can package that any way you want to.... They lied...
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Originally Posted by
maroonmania
About the only thing you can criticize the Rawlings over is his Dad should have stayed off MSU message boards and interfacing with MSU fans given he had to know almost 100% that his son would flip at the first sign of an OM offer.
^^^this^^^ I just don't understand the reasoning behind guardians posting on message boards in the first place. What were they looking to gain?
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Originally Posted by
maroonmania
About the only thing you can criticize the Rawlings over is his Dad should have stayed off MSU message boards and interfacing with MSU fans given he had to know almost 100% that his son would flip at the first sign of an OM offer.
No way he could have known that. I took everything Mr.Rawlings said as truthful and very complimentary of MSU and Mullen. Really don't know what more you can ask of him. I enjoyed his insight.
End of the day, it was Sean's choice and he went with his heart. Nothing wrong with that. It was clear that dad liked Mullen but it was Sean's choice.
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If I grew up a MSU fan, there is no way that I would have committed to umiss. Even if that was my only offer. I would have gone to juco to try to improve my stock.
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Originally Posted by
Interpolation_Dawg_EX
^^^this^^^ I just don't understand the reasoning behind guardians posting on message boards in the first place. What were they looking to gain?
He didn't gain anything but we gained insight. Don't know how we could possibly complain. Me.Rawlings didn't set us up
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You do exactly what he did. I dont see the big problem. He wanted to play in the SEC and only had one offer, so he commits to save him a spot and when he gets the offer to play for the school that he is a lifelong fan of he switches. No harm done. Everyone here would have done the same.
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Originally Posted by
smootness
I would walk on at State before I took a scholarship at Ole Miss.
I turned down a preferred walk-on spot at OM in baseball to live in Goodman, Ms and play the juco circuit. I thanked Coach Gibbs and then politely told him there was no way I'd ever go to OM.
I think Rawlings did the right thing- go where your heart is. He was only with us because we were his only good option at the time.
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
thedawg
I wouldnt let my kid do it.. It may not be popular... but in the same situation I would have shut down communication with the other school months ago. If I wasnt prepared to shut down communication I wouldnt have committed. Thats how I feel they all should be done even when it benefits us that kids dont do it that way. Truth is truth and lying is lying.
Plus 1. That is the point. If. If it was my son, he wouldve never commited in the first place? You want to sign up for hockey? Ok. After first practice you want to quit? Tough shit. You can quit at the end of the season.
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Originally Posted by
Ennis Del Mar
Plus 1. That is the point. If. If it was my son, he wouldve never commited in the first place? You want to sign up for hockey? Ok. After first practice you want to quit? Tough shit. You can quit at the end of the season.
So if you have an offer but the coaches say that if you don't take it your spot may be filled, you would just take your chances? Some of you have on such thick maroon colored glasses on this that you really just can't wrap your heads around it. Maybe the kid's dad shouldn't have posted on the msg boards, but everything he said was very complimentary so I don't really even have a problem with that either. The way the Rawlings handled this situation was fine, and has no bearing on whether they are "upstanding persons" or anything of that nature.
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