Stands missing on O'Bryant was huge

[Bully13]

Ha, where have you been? Great post. 34 is probably the worst basketball poster on this board. He will spin shit and change his argument in a heartbeat. His dislike of Stansbury ruins his creditably. Now He has to bash Kirby, who was a great asst Coach.

I want even take time googling Memphis b'ball coaching salaries vs LSU'S. I'd bet big money all the memphis coaches make more than lsu's. and of course kirby would have indeed gotten a raise leaving lsu for memphis. oh and btw, whomever it was, please don't refer to kirby as "coach K"...that's just jacked up

[defiantdog]

O'Bryant really would've been a nice get for the team, but we've never recruited the delta well at all. I think Tyrone Washington is the only guy who comes to mind that we've gotten from that area for basketball.

I just don't get the Stans bashing anymore. He's 2 years removed. I'm beginning to think that he slept with some of your wives and maybe even fathered a child or 2. Did yall attended any games while he was the coach? The atmosphere in the Hump is pathetic compared to when he was the coach. As a state fan, I'm 100% behind Ray but give the bashing a break. He didn't have a shot at OBryant, Adams followed Kirby to Georgetown, and we temporarily got Hood. I can't recall more talent coming out of our state than that year but at least Stans landed Hood. It remains to be seen if Ray can even get in the door with recruiting these type of players, but you don't see me (Stans fan) bashing him. Give it a break.

Stans may have gotten the players.... but everyone is more upset with what he did after he got the players. With the right coaching and DISCIPLINE, State could have been a Kentucky like program. But he choked on the actual coaching aspect in his career. I'm all for the bashing because the teams Stans coached were poorly executed.... especially late in the games. Ray has these kids in shape and hungry to win. Stans never had the control and comradery that Ray possesses, and that is why we bash him.

[Coach34]

Ha, where have you been? Great post. 34 is probably the worst basketball poster on this board. He will spin shit and change his argument in a heartbeat. His dislike of Stansbury ruins his creditably. Now He has to bash Kirby, who was a great asst Coach.

I'm not bashing Robert Kirby in any way. I've always said good things about him. I've said numerous times him leaving our program hurt alot with the discipline side

[TheDogFather]

The atmosphere in the early 00s was great, but the last 6 or so years of Stans' tenure, the atmosphere wasn't all that different from now.

That couldn't be farther from the truth. I was at all of those games.

Another sorry attempt to smear Stansbury with exaggeration.

[defiantdog]

I want even take time googling Memphis b'ball coaching salaries vs LSU'S. I'd bet big money all the memphis coaches make more than lsu's. and of course kirby would have indeed gotten a raise leaving lsu for memphis. oh and btw, whomever it was, please don't refer to kirby as "coach K"...that's just jacked up

Josh Pastner of Memphis makes $1.69 million while Johnny Jones of LSU is making $1.1 million. Kirby was making $240,000 a year at LSU and is now making $304,500 at Memphis.

[Coach34]

Memphis will pay for bball coaches.
$500,000k means something to me. Maybe not if I was pulling 1.2M, but I think I'd still notice.
I think I saw in the Commercial Appeal over Christmas Pastner is making more than $2M.

http://www.memphisflyer.com/TigerBlu...ract-extension
MARCH 27, 2013
Pastner just completed the second year of a five year contract that was paying him $1.7 million annually through the 2015-16 season.)

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-...150124412.html
April 9, 2012 11:01 AM
$1.2 million base salary Johnson made at LSU

For the record, here is one saying Trent Johnson made 1.51MM after his 2nd season at LSU

http://college-basketball-coaches.findthedata.org/

[TopDog58]

That couldn't be farther from the truth. I was at all of those games.

Another sorry attempt to smear Stansbury with exaggeration.

Nice to have you on the board, Meo. Do you and Rick have West championship banner sheets and comforter?

[mcdawg]

That couldn't be farther from the truth. I was at all of those games.

Another sorry attempt to smear Stansbury with exaggeration.

Agreed. I was at the A&M game this past week (and OM game) - the atmosphere now is terrible. Maybe 3500 fans - thank goodness they give away free pizza to get some students to the game. I was happy that we won (with less talent and just did what it took to win), but the games are just not enjoyable. The talent level is just not good, so the game is not enjoyable to watch - almost boring. The most talent and fun was at halftime watching the "Kings of the Court" (Grizzlies dunking team).

[grinnindawg]

For the record, here is one saying Trent Johnson made 1.51MM after his 2nd season at LSU

http://college-basketball-coaches.findthedata.org/

That's nice. Did it include incentives and outside income?
My guess is it does. The article I linked was base pay.
I have little doubt Memphis' coach makes far more off the court than LSU's.

For the record, here's one saying Pastner is making 2.14M to 2.57M a year in base pay.
" ....Memphis for seven more years through the 2019-2020 season. He will also be paid a base salary between $15 million to $18 million"
http://www.localmemphis.com/news/loc...dEmnv8dEuR5KtA

Why on the day after we beat the #1 team in the SEC are you spending energy worrying about what could have been?
Did Stansbury upset you personally in some way?
I'm glad our team is playing hard defense and finding a way to win at home. Hope it continues.

[Coach34]

Why on the day after we beat the #1 team in the SEC are you spending energy worrying about what could have been?
Did Stansbury upset you personally in some way?
I'm glad our team is playing hard defense and finding a way to win at home. Hope it continues.

Hello, My name is Coach34. I've been messing with State fans about Stands for 10 years now

[chef dixon]

Disagree on O'Bryant. Nice player but not a program changer. I mean just look how great LSU has been since he's gotten there....

No doubt we could use him given our current roster, but he's no more better than Gavin Ware with a year more experience.

[grinnindawg]

ok.

you've built a website that is excellent for discussion of things msu.
"messing with" a portion of your audience (for lack of a better term) detracts from the excellence.

10 years ago we were in the middle of a 4 year in a row NCAA run.

[Political Hack]

I have no doubts that this is 100% correct. You have been in the trenches. I'm just pointing out that we were not much of a factor in a recruiting battle over one of the best frontcourt basketball recruits in Mississippi of the last 10-15 years

Stans got way more than he lost in MS. Time will tell on Ray, but he's looking like a hell of a floor coach which is a huge plus. Right now Stans looks like the superior recruiter and Ray looks like the superior floor coach. We can all argue until we're blue in the face, but it's irrelevant.

[TheDogFather]

Nice to have you on the board, Meo. Do you and Rick have West championship banner sheets and comforter?

This post is more ignorant than even the point you are defending.

What you should do is go eat the supper mommy cooked you, think about things for a bit and come back more prepared to discuss this with the adults.

[Coach34]

Stans got way more than he lost in MS. Time will tell on Ray, but he's looking like a hell of a floor coach which is a huge plus. Right now Stans looks like the superior recruiter and Ray looks like the superior floor coach.

I agree with that

[drunkernhelldawg]

The atmosphere in the early 00s was great, but the last 6 or so years of Stans' tenure, the atmosphere wasn't all that different from now.

wow. Sleepwalking?

[TheDogFather]

If we had more than 2 coaches in the last 16 years of hoops we'd talk about them too. Again, Stansbury is an idiosyncrasy that is never going away.

Yeah, I get it, and don't mind discussing Stansbury at all - positive and negative. It's just the comments are always centered on the derogatory and it gets tiring. I realize this is a debate I will not win, but the MSU fanbase should cut Stansbury some slack.

For example, the comment about the atmosphere being terrible for Stansbury's last six years - that is the type of comment that has become commonplace even in its stupidity. It's not only an insult to Stansbury's contribution to MSU athletics, which is substantial, but it is an insult to all of the reasonable posters on this site. The atmosphere in Stansbury's LAST year was better than this year - I was at all of those games. It's bordering on the "Blame It on Bush" mentality.

[MadDawg]

These threads totally and completely suck. Can both sides please let it go and just get behind the team and coach we have right now without starting these pissing matches?

Of course not. Because our fans suck.

[MadDawg]

Hello, My name is Coach34. I've been messing with State fans about Stands for 10 years now

Like I said, our fans suck.

[C222]

Of course not. Because our fans suck.

You're such a great fan though!! How pissed are you that we won Saturday?