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There is some smoke coming from the whittingham deal......
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Originally Posted by
timotheus
There is some smoke coming from the whittingham deal......
As in, people are upset that he was passed over or that something may happen with this going forward?
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In being passed over. I haven't heard a thing about him having interest at this point. This was a total Cohen decision. I hate it but the Moorhead experiment just didn't work.
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Originally Posted by
timotheus
In being passed over. I haven't heard a thing about him having interest at this point. This was a total Cohen decision. I hate it but the Moorhead experiment just didn't work.
If the rumors are true, and I suspect they are, Cohen should be fired solely for this. Passing over a proven HC at a P5 school who has been largely successful for a guy whose only HC experience came at freaking Fordham? Idc how innovative his offense looked, you go with the proven guy 10 times out of 10.
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I’m going to let this play out before I light my torch and dust off my pitchfork.
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Cohen didn’t pass on him in a sense. Whittingham, was playing both sides trying to get more money from Utah. Cohen got tired of it and said this is what we offer and make a decision. Whittingham stayed at Utah.
Guys, let it all play out. “Stuff” will happen one way or the other.
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I'm cool with letting this play out. But what I am wary of is if Cohen goes it alone on the next hire. Day by day as this lingers and wanes, so does faith in Cohen.
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Originally Posted by
timotheus
I'm cool with letting this play out. But what I am wary of is if Cohen goes it alone on the next hire. Day by day as this lingers and wanes, so does faith in Cohen.
We’re paying for hiring an inexperienced AD. But as long as some people are happy that’s all that matters.**
I’m willing to give Cohen a chance to make it right. But he does need to start showing progress as an AD and start improving some things.
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Originally Posted by
Cowbell
Cohen is not stupid enough to become the next dead man walking
I like to think that. But more and more I've begun to feel like he's a bit of a fraud. IB my a$$.
The Liberation will not be televised--- when it arrives like lightning in the skies!
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Originally Posted by
BulldogBear
I like to think that. But more and more I've begun to feel like he's a bit of a fraud. IB my a$$.
Again- inexperience. He doesn’t know what good marketing is or if someone isn’t doing their job like they should in the video department. I’m sure he had growing pains at Northwestern State when he started out as a coach there too. I’m sure he has learned lessons from his coaching hires too. We’ll see if he can apply what he has learned now.
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Originally Posted by
BulldogBear
I like to think that. But more and more I've begun to feel like he's a bit of a fraud. IB my a$$.
This is especially true, IMO, if Aaron Feld wanted to come home but we wouldn't pay top dollar for a strength coach.
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Some people still balk at the notion that John selected the type of people to hire that sort of owe him something. He wanted to be able to keep his thumb on his hires. If you think this is bad, just imagine if the baseball team took a sudden downturn.
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They?re trying to hold the class together.
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Originally Posted by
Todd4State
We’re paying for hiring an inexperienced AD. But as long as some people are happy that’s all that matters.**
I’m willing to give Cohen a chance to make it right. But he does need to start showing progress as an AD and start improving some things.
Him being AD was a planned move by certain people. It should’ve never happened. You never hire a coach on staff to be the AD.
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Originally Posted by
TNDawg35
Cohen didn?t pass on him in a sense. Whittingham, was playing both sides trying to get more money from Utah. Cohen got tired of it and said this is what we offer and make a decision. Whittingham stayed at Utah.
Guys, let it all play out. ?Stuff? will happen one way or the other.
Cohen was willing to pay Mullen $6million. One would have to assume KW would would command within 20% of that much considering his record matches or betters Mullen?s record.
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Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
Him being AD was a planned move by certain people. It should?ve never happened. You never hire a coach on staff to be the AD.
I think there has been one or two good one but most times the sport they had coached dominates the others. That's their preference in resource allocation.
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Originally Posted by
Cooterpoot
Him being AD was a planned move by certain people. It should’ve never happened. You never hire a coach on staff to be the AD.
This happens all to often with us, doing something stupid that ends up with us stepping on our own dick.
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Originally Posted by
Barkman Turner Overdrive
Cohen was willing to pay Mullen $6million. One would have to assume KW would would command within 20% of that much considering his record matches or betters Mullen?s record.
He got a 10 year contract with almost no buyout from Utah. He has agreement to remain on payroll even after he retires. He got exactly what he wanted from Utah.
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Originally Posted by
bluelightstar
This is especially true, IMO, if Aaron Feld wanted to come home but we wouldn't pay top dollar for a strength coach.
I don't know where this is coming from but this stuff about us holding out on money isn't from Cohen. Not true at all.
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Originally Posted by
Coursesuper
This happens all to often with us, doing something stupid that ends up with us stepping on our own dick.
If my dick was long enough to step on, I'd probably step on it just to prove that I could. Just being honest.
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