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    2019 Football Concerns

    Hello guys- just stopping by to talk some ball and deliver my football concerns heading into this CFB season:

    1. The DT position. We are going to have a significant drop at this position in 2019. We lost the best pass-rushing DT in all of college football in Simmons- along with 2 very good DT's in Hoyett and Thomas. I think our talent here will be ok- but the lack of experience in 2019 and talent drop makes this the top concern of 2019.

    2. QB pressure- we were 12th in the country in 2018 in sacks at 39. We lost Simmons, Sweat, and Green- who were the major forces in those numbers. I'll be shocked if we reach 25 in 2019. That puts alot more pressure on the LB's and Secondary as well as makes some play-calling easier for our opponents.

    3. Every Play is an RPO- the SEC is the premier league in the country on defense. It's D-Line heaven. You have to adjust your offense to combat SEC defenses because of the excess athletes and the commitment of SEC DC's to play man coverage. Today's response to the RPO is to play man coverage and force the QB to run the ball. That wont change in 2019. The Big Ten didnt exactly play D that way- neither does the Pac-12. The SEC dont play. I'm curious to see if JoMo adapts or does he continue to let Tommy get about 185 carries in 2019. Something to watch fo sho.

    4. How does the Secondary perform? The pass rush wont be close to last season. We lost our Safeties and CB's. How does the new Secondary perform with half the pass rush in 2019?

    5. Should be a very good OL in 2019. Experience and depth. Should be a good run-blocking crew. Do we rely on that strength?

    6. We have 2 TB's. Can Hill and Gibson stay healthy and handle the load? Defenses will force alot of Tommy carries- but if JoVester adapts and hands the ball off- can they handle the load?

    7. Will the WR's be better in 2019? They have been shitty. Can they catch the Tommy fastball or will this year just be more of the same? Athletes that remain inconsistent?

    8. Will the team unite behind Tommy or will we have a divided lockerroom like we did in 2016? That makes a big difference and the longer it drags- the more it hurts your season.

    9. We play at Auburn and at A&M- those teams will be hard to beat on the road. As will Tennessee in year 2 with their new coach. Kentucky is solid and could win 8 games. LSU is damn good. Our schedule aint as damn easy as some people try to say. Add in K-State playing against an inexperienced State QB

    Just some searing questions for our team heading into 2019....I'm excited about this Fall because it will answer alot of questions about our HC hire. He will have had 2 years with the most talent he will have had during his time at State. If he cant get it done with these 2 teams- its not going to get any better in his time in Sville. 2019 will be very exciting. HailState
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    WR's and QB have to be able to beat man coverage.

    DT's, our offensive scheme, and Kylin's health are my biggest concerns.

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    "He will have had 2 years with the most talent he will have had during his time at State. If he cant get it done with these 2 teams- its not going to get any better in his time in Sville."

    This statement makes no sense, other than for you to perpetuate your narrative. Even though you post less, we get it - you don't like him. Also, your nickname for him is childish.

    Based on how he's filled gaps in the roster in his short time, it's rather per sumptuous for you to claim last year and this coming year will be the most talented teams he'll have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Hello guys- just stopping by to talk some ball and deliver my football concerns heading into this CFB season:

    1. The DT position. We are going to have a significant drop at this position in 2019. We lost the best pass-rushing DT in all of college football in Simmons- along with 2 very good DT's in Hoyett and Thomas. I think our talent here will be ok- but the lack of experience in 2019 and talent drop makes this the top concern of 2019.

    2. QB pressure- we were 12th in the country in 2018 in sacks at 39. We lost Simmons, Sweat, and Green- who were the major forces in those numbers. I'll be shocked if we reach 25 in 2019. That puts alot more pressure on the LB's and Secondary as well as makes some play-calling easier for our opponents.

    3. Every Play is an RPO- the SEC is the premier league in the country on defense. It's D-Line heaven. You have to adjust your offense to combat SEC defenses because of the excess athletes and the commitment of SEC DC's to play man coverage. Today's response to the RPO is to play man coverage and force the QB to run the ball. That wont change in 2019. The Big Ten didnt exactly play D that way- neither does the Pac-12. The SEC dont play. I'm curious to see if JoMo adapts or does he continue to let Tommy get about 185 carries in 2019. Something to watch fo sho.

    4. How does the Secondary perform? The pass rush wont be close to last season. We lost our Safeties and CB's. How does the new Secondary perform with half the pass rush in 2019?

    5. Should be a very good OL in 2019. Experience and depth. Should be a good run-blocking crew. Do we rely on that strength?

    6. We have 2 TB's. Can Hill and Gibson stay healthy and handle the load? Defenses will force alot of Tommy carries- but if JoVester adapts and hands the ball off- can they handle the load?

    7. Will the WR's be better in 2019? They have been shitty. Can they catch the Tommy fastball or will this year just be more of the same? Athletes that remain inconsistent?

    8. Will the team unite behind Tommy or will we have a divided lockerroom like we did in 2016? That makes a big difference and the longer it drags- the more it hurts your season.

    9. We play at Auburn and at A&M- those teams will be hard to beat on the road. As will Tennessee in year 2 with their new coach. Kentucky is solid and could win 8 games. LSU is damn good. Our schedule aint as damn easy as some people try to say. Add in K-State playing against an inexperienced State QB

    Just some searing questions for our team heading into 2019....I'm excited about this Fall because it will answer alot of questions about our HC hire. He will have had 2 years with the most talent he will have had during his time at State. If he cant get it done with these 2 teams- its not going to get any better in his time in Sville. 2019 will be very exciting. HailState
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    I see your only name for Stevens right now is Tommy.

    Any ideas you're floating around for his nickname?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RezDog7 View Post
    I'm very thankful you don't coach my kid.
    Me too
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    WR's and QB have to be able to beat man coverage.

    DT's, our offensive scheme, and Kylin's health are my biggest concerns.
    If number one has to happen we are screwed. Dt is an issue. Don't care what anyone says

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutter Cobreh View Post
    "He will have had 2 years with the most talent he will have had during his time at State. If he cant get it done with these 2 teams- its not going to get any better in his time in Sville."

    This statement makes no sense, other than for you to perpetuate your narrative. Even though you post less, we get it - you don't like him. Also, your nickname for him is childish.

    Based on how he's filled gaps in the roster in his short time, it's rather per sumptuous for you to claim last year and this coming year will be the most talented teams he'll have.
    I think the point is next year will be tough, so 21 will be at best a job saving year if this year is a fail, so I agree w coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RezDog7 View Post
    I'm very thankful you don't coach my kid.

    What did he say that was so bad??

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    Always love real talk and debate. C34 does it well. He is wrong alot.. but does it well..


    1- When you look at the numbers of Sweat vs Rivers, you will... WILL find that Rivers is 100% in line with Sweat. VERY MUCH SO. If you give Rivers the time on the field and the production level stays the same, Rivers will accomplish much of what Sweat did. On the other side, it is an upgrade. Autry is a great DT. Where we will have a Question is not with the starters, it's more so with the 3rd strings.

    2- Not even true man. For example:

    On Rivers, Here are his stats compared to Sweat.

    Sweat- 53 tackles - 14 TFL- 11 sacks- 7 QBH
    Rivers- 24 tackles - 7 TFL- 3 sacks- 4 QBH

    Rivers did that with less than half the time.

    Continuing with this, You state we had 39 sacks... You mentioned Sweat, Simmons and Green. They accounted, collectively, for 16 of those sacks. As I pointed out, Rivers is in line with Sweat, and Sweat had 11 of those 16 sacks. Couple that with the fact that Spenser would have started over Green baring injury, again.. We are not looking at a major drop off.

    3- We are all excited to see what his offense can do. I remember the time when some people stated the same about a young coach who was the OC at UF named Mullen. Literally was the same things stated. That crap want work against a real defense.... YET.. it did.

    4- I love the break down of this one. We had a total of 13 ints. We lost one guy who was apart of those stats. He only had 2. Abrams. This is an actual expectation... "this group will be improved in talent and in depth".

    5- OL.. agreed. Will be one of the top groups in the nation.

    6- We have more than 2. However, any injury would be bad. So I agree with that part.

    7- Alot of the passing game last year was not the fault of the WR or TE... It was Fitz making late reads. Then forcing the pass late. I happen to think that we have the most under rated corp in the SEC. We may not have that one guy, but we have that corp that will force every man to be covered well. We will end up with mismatches all game long.

    8- Yes.. They will. And KT will be a part of the winning formula. Watch

    9- 100% disagree. MS ST will be the most over looked team and will start the season 6-0 before being tested. Gus will be fired. in fact, I can see this team being undefeated with Bama at home.


    I'm excited about this Fall because it will answer alot of questions about our HC hire. He will have had 2 years with the most talent he will have had during his time at State. If he cant get it done with these 2 teams- its not going to get any better in his time in Sville. 2019 will be very exciting. HailState
    Agree with the excitement. He runs a different offense than Mullen. He needs that implemented. For that, he needs his players
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post


    3. Every Play is an RPO- the SEC is the premier league in the country on defense. It's D-Line heaven. You have to adjust your offense to combat SEC defenses because of the excess athletes and the commitment of SEC DC's to play man coverage. Today's response to the RPO is to play man coverage and force the QB to run the ball. That wont change in 2019. The Big Ten didnt exactly play D that way- neither does the Pac-12. The SEC dont play. I'm curious to see if JoMo adapts or does he continue to let Tommy get about 185 carries in 2019. Something to watch fo sho.
    https://www.djournal.com/sports/coll...7d281af22.html

    Quote from the article:

    Fitz had a great year running the ball, but the goal for Moorhead this fall is to be a little more balanced. He said that in his offense, the QB should not run the ball more than 10 or 15 times per game.
    Last season, MSU quarterbacks averaged 18.8 carries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RezDog7 View Post
    I'm very thankful you don't coach my kid.
    No kidding. Sadly, some here think he has any clue what he?s talking about

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    I have chatted with 34 in person after a spring practice session guys, and yes he is opinionated but any coach has to be. He made some relevant points here and the mention of how good the SEC defensive lineman is spot on and will be critical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Hello guys- just stopping by to talk some ball and deliver my football concerns heading into this CFB season:

    1. The DT position. We are going to have a significant drop at this position in 2019. We lost the best pass-rushing DT in all of college football in Simmons- along with 2 very good DT's in Hoyett and Thomas. I think our talent here will be ok- but the lack of experience in 2019 and talent drop makes this the top concern of 2019.

    2. QB pressure- we were 12th in the country in 2018 in sacks at 39. We lost Simmons, Sweat, and Green- who were the major forces in those numbers. I'll be shocked if we reach 25 in 2019. That puts alot more pressure on the LB's and Secondary as well as makes some play-calling easier for our opponents.

    3. Every Play is an RPO- the SEC is the premier league in the country on defense. It's D-Line heaven. You have to adjust your offense to combat SEC defenses because of the excess athletes and the commitment of SEC DC's to play man coverage. Today's response to the RPO is to play man coverage and force the QB to run the ball. That wont change in 2019. The Big Ten didnt exactly play D that way- neither does the Pac-12. The SEC dont play. I'm curious to see if JoMo adapts or does he continue to let Tommy get about 185 carries in 2019. Something to watch fo sho.

    4. How does the Secondary perform? The pass rush wont be close to last season. We lost our Safeties and CB's. How does the new Secondary perform with half the pass rush in 2019?

    5. Should be a very good OL in 2019. Experience and depth. Should be a good run-blocking crew. Do we rely on that strength?

    6. We have 2 TB's. Can Hill and Gibson stay healthy and handle the load? Defenses will force alot of Tommy carries- but if JoVester adapts and hands the ball off- can they handle the load?

    7. Will the WR's be better in 2019? They have been shitty. Can they catch the Tommy fastball or will this year just be more of the same? Athletes that remain inconsistent?

    8. Will the team unite behind Tommy or will we have a divided lockerroom like we did in 2016? That makes a big difference and the longer it drags- the more it hurts your season.

    9. We play at Auburn and at A&M- those teams will be hard to beat on the road. As will Tennessee in year 2 with their new coach. Kentucky is solid and could win 8 games. LSU is damn good. Our schedule aint as damn easy as some people try to say. Add in K-State playing against an inexperienced State QB

    Just some searing questions for our team heading into 2019....I'm excited about this Fall because it will answer alot of questions about our HC hire. He will have had 2 years with the most talent he will have had during his time at State. If he cant get it done with these 2 teams- its not going to get any better in his time in Sville. 2019 will be very exciting. HailState
    "4. How does the Secondary perform? The pass rush wont be close to last season. We lost our Safeties and CB's. How does the new Secondary perform with half the pass rush in 2019?"

    That's interesting. Did Smitherman and Dantzler leave the team?

    https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles...b-cam-dantzler

    And I guess you haven't seen anything from Cole, Landrews, and Morgan-Walker that is encouraging? OK....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    What did he say that was so bad??
    Just not a fan of know it all condescending assholes. This dude is a moron.

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    Yes DT is a concern this year , but we do have some talented cats they are young but talented and no we can replace Simmons outside of Clemson and Bama few teams can. And yes Rivers is a pro .. a possible day 1 or day 2 name called pro
    If DT is our only concern and it basically is, I feel good about our D

    Yes RB is thin , can’t have an injury there. Hill has to be a workhorse and a stud and we need Gibson to be really good. We can blame the previous staff for this. It’s absurd we don’t have any depth here

    WR will be better, hell we really don’t know how good they are. Yes they had some drops crucial drops at times but what WR group doesnt. I feel pretty confident that TS will have a much better grasp of the offense and 10x a better QB when it comes to doing the things a QB at an elite level has to do .. read a defense , get the ball to the right guy, ect

    And when it comes to 2020 and beyond it’s silly to even speculate on that..
    CJM and staff sure have checked some boxes about 2020:.. look at the juco class we have coming in.
    He has the QB he wants
    He has the RB he wants
    The OL is deep
    The depth at WR is growing
    The DL will be loaded with elite jucos and talented young guys

    We need to find that lockdown Cb. And who’s to say we don’t already have him.. Dantzler was a 3star out of high school and turned himself into a possible 1st rounder in 3 years

    Bottom line if TS is as good as some think this will be a fun year ..

    Everyone enjoy it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ari Gold View Post
    Yes DT is a concern this year , but we do have some talented cats they are young but talented and no we can replace Simmons outside of Clemson and Bama few teams can. And yes Rivers is a pro .. a possible day 1 or day 2 name called pro
    If DT is our only concern and it basically is, I feel good about our D

    Yes RB is thin , can?t have an injury there. Hill has to be a workhorse and a stud and we need Gibson to be really good. We can blame the previous staff for this. It?s absurd we don?t have any depth here

    WR will be better, hell we really don?t know how good they are. Yes they had some drops crucial drops at times but what WR group doesnt. I feel pretty confident that TS will have a much better grasp of the offense and 10x a better QB when it comes to doing the things a QB at an elite level has to do .. read a defense , get the ball to the right guy, ect

    And when it comes to 2020 and beyond it?s silly to even speculate on that..
    CJM and staff sure have checked some boxes about 2020:.. look at the juco class we have coming in.
    He has the QB he wants
    He has the RB he wants
    The OL is deep
    The depth at WR is growing
    The DL will be loaded with elite jucos and talented young guys

    We need to find that lockdown Cb. And who?s to say we don?t already have him.. Dantzler was a 3star out of high school and turned himself into a possible 1st rounder in 3 years

    Bottom line if TS is as good as some think this will be a fun year ..

    Everyone enjoy it
    Yea, I don't understand the grave concern for 2020 and beyond either...

    - At QB we only lose Stevens
    - RB is somewhat of a concern, but not if Hill comes back. Also, we have a very highly rated guy waiting in the wings, along with Witherspoon, Walker, and Dillon Johnson.
    - WR/TE we lose Guidry, Thomas and Dear, but return everyone else and our WR recruiting is trending up. At TE you will have Jones, Spivey, and Cumbest
    - OL, same as WR, lose some guys, but have been bringing in the most talent that I can remember
    - DL is the position we have recruited the best- Pickering, Russell, Davis, Lovett, Crumedy, Kobe Jones, Spencer, Odom, others. No concern there.
    - LB will be a drop, but like with RB, if we hit the draft right we could be great again. Also, Brule and Watson have been promising according to those inside the program. Also adding Brown from Horn Lake.
    - At CB I think Jarrian Jones and Emerson can be very good. Jones may be that lock down guy. He will probably play a lot this year.
    - At safety you will have Marcus Murphy, Fred Peters, and Morgan- Walker. Some say Janari Dean is one of the best players in the state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by preachermatt83 View Post
    JoeVester... lol. I like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Covercorner2 View Post
    "4. How does the Secondary perform? The pass rush wont be close to last season. We lost our Safeties and CB's. How does the new Secondary perform with half the pass rush in 2019?"

    That's interesting. Did Smitherman and Dantzler leave the team?

    https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles...b-cam-dantzler

    And I guess you haven't seen anything from Cole, Landrews, and Morgan-Walker that is encouraging? OK....
    Dantzler is very good but losing Peters, Rayford, and our starting safeties is a big loss. That's alot of talent that played alot of snaps at Miss. State. Could the Secondary be very good this year? Sure. Is it a given? Hell no it's not. Our pass rush last year had alot to do with that
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