Applewhite to Transfer

[engie]

The only improvement is the schedule. I think last year's team might have been better b/c of Steele. Last year's team went 5-7 in the non-conference. This year's team would have gone 6-6 with the same schedule b/c I will give them the win over Alabama A&M.

This is the dumbest shit I've read in awhile. Well, besides every other basketball post that a handful of you make. This team beats Troy and Loyola. So, we're at 8-4 with last year's nonconference schedule.

Given your brilliant prognostication ability to see this clear lack of progression -- please tell me you are willing to bet on us winning 4 or fewer in the SEC again?

[HoopsDawg]

This is the dumbest shit I've read in awhile. Well, besides every other basketball post that a handful of you make. This team beats Troy and Loyola. So, we're at 8-4 with last year's nonconference schedule.

Given your brilliant prognostication ability to see this clear lack of progression -- please tell me you are willing to bet on us winning 4 or fewer in the SEC again?

I'll take 5 or under for 1K.

[HoopsDawg]

This is the dumbest shit I've read in awhile. Well, besides every other basketball post that a handful of you make. This team beats Troy and Loyola. So, we're at 8-4 with last year's nonconference schedule.

Given your brilliant prognostication ability to see this clear lack of progression -- please tell me you are willing to bet on us winning 4 or fewer in the SEC again?

Speaking of dumb, we beat Loyola by 1 point, at home, in OT yet you've got us beating them on the road? LOL Also a team that beats JSU by 2 and SELA by 4 isn't a lock over anyone especially at Troy in Troy's first game in the new arena.

[Dawg61]

I would of preferred it be a different player than Dre. because I like his physical upside and toughness for a freshman but I do want to see more minutes for Tevin Moore and hopefully Bear Wilson and this frees up 15-20 minutes a game for them. I've been saying Ray needs to upgrade 4 players on the roster. Applewhite wasn't one of the four I would of chosen but it sounds like Dre chose it for Ray. Applewhite can be replaced fairly easily and if it's Devonta Pollard we get now than this ends up being a big upgrade in talent.

[ShotgunDawg]

Can Hud coach Basketball?

By the way, I've been done with college basketball an basketball in general for a few years. I just don't like the culture of the sport.

This will probably be the last post I ever make on this sport.

[HailState39110]

It's pointless to argue about this right now. Lets continue this conversation at the end of February

[bobcat91]

So now we are saying this is a great improvement because we are winning more with agutted schedule. Great analysis. Our RPI is right at 150 and SOS is near 300. But let's be thankful that we were in a game with folks like Prairie View with 3 minutes left. Let's be glad that of the 4 recruits we had last year only one is playing. Oh wow we are 9-3. And have to offer free tickets and pizza to get people to come. Oh Hail Rick Ray.

[engie]

Speaking of dumb, we beat Loyola by 1 point, at home, in OT yet you've got us beating them on the road? LOL Also a team that beats JSU by 2 and SELA by 4 isn't a lock over anyone especially at Troy in Troy's first game in the new arena.

All without our starting point guard and the key to our offense. But don't let facts get in the way of your agenda...

[engie]

So now we are saying this is a great improvement because we are winning more with agutted schedule. Great analysis. Our RPI is right at 150 and SOS is near 300. But let's be thankful that we were in a game with folks like Prairie View with 3 minutes left. Let's be glad that of the 4 recruits we had last year only one is playing. Oh wow we are 9-3. And have to offer free tickets and pizza to get people to come. Oh Hail Rick Ray.

By your genius analysis of our improvement -- we should be an NIT lock in year 3.

Oh -- I forgot -- good coaches win in year 1 in basketball!!1!1 Turning around dumpster fires is easy!!1!1

[HoopsDawg]

By your genius analysis of our improvement -- we should be an NIT lock in year 3.

Oh -- I forgot -- good coaches win in year 1 in basketball!!1!1 Turning around dumpster fires is easy!!1!1

So we are heading to the sweet 16 in year 4? Awesome, can't wait.
Is Ray recruiting as well as Crean did? Awesome, I didn't realize that.
Does Ray have Crean's resume? Nice, I thought he was the bench coach for a Clemson team that missed the NCAAT.

[bobcat91]

By your genius analysis of our improvement -- we should be an NIT lock in year 3.

Oh -- I forgot -- good coaches win in year 1 in basketball!!1!1 Turning around dumpster fires is easy!!1!1

Warren nolen says different. Some will take another year to realize what a shitty coach and guy Ray is. Oh well continue being an idiot.

[engie]

I'll take 5 or under for 1K.

You said we aren't improved. Why are you wanting a game?

This is funny. I've made these bets several times and never seen a dollar -- hence why I no longer make them. But you are a ****ing moron if you think we win 4 or fewer in the SEC. Why do you need a game -- if you are so sure we aren't any better than last year?

This team is going to go 7-11 or 8-10 in the SEC. Bookmark it and let me know when I'm wrong

[engie]

So we are heading to the sweet 16 in year 4? Awesome, can't wait.

Nice straw man bullshit.

Is Ray recruiting as well as Crean did? Awesome, I didn't realize that.

Crean missed the top 25 with 2 of his first 3 classes.

Does Ray have Crean's resume? Nice, I thought he was the bench coach for a Clemson team that missed the NCAAT.

Which has what to do with anything? Resume doesn't mean SHIT. Results do -- and it is what it is at this point.

Are you ****ing stupid enough to imply that it is easier to win at MSU than Indiana? Why, then, did it take Crean 4 years to get it going at a national powerhouse program? I mean -- it should be a 5 minute rebuild, right? Why didn't he have them in the tournament in year 2?

[NewTweederEndzoneDance]

Warren nolen says different. Some will take another year to realize what a shitty coach and guy Ray is. Oh well continue being an idiot.

we have absolutely the worst fans in college sports. i know all schools have their share of complete clowns, but it's really not even close. look no further than this ****tard for proof.

and no, i'm not sorry in the least for using insulting language. this topic has been hashed and rehashed time and again. some people really do want us to fail in men's basketball because they are so butthurt about the coaching change, whether its the fire or the hire. at this point it is really just infuriating.

/rantoff

[HoopsDawg]

Nice straw man bullshit.


Crean missed the top 25 with 2 of his first 3 classes.


Are you ****ing stupid enough to imply that it is easier to win at MSU than Indiana? Why, then, did it take Crean 4 years to get it going at a national powerhouse program? I mean -- it should be a 5 minute rebuild, right? Why didn't he have them in the tournament in year 2?

I keep forgetting I'm talking to someone who rode the short bus to school. Indiana was on probation for Crean's first 3 years with recruiting sanctions to deal with. He inherited a team with ONE returning scholarship player. They were dealing with death penalty worries and Sampson got nailed. They had 7 players transfer.

[engie]

Warren nolen says different. Some will take another year to realize what a shitty coach and guy Ray is. Oh well continue being an idiot.

No, it doesn't. I love when morons spout off baseless bullshit while telling OTHERS to "continue being idiots." You can tell me about your eye test all you want -- but don't try to back it with bullshit made-up numbers -- because when you do that, I have to destroy you.





Wanna try again "idiot"?

With the same amount of RPI improvement next year that we've seen thusfar this year = borderline NCAA Tourney Team = RIGHT ON SCHEDULE.


We "peaked" at #224 in RPI last year.


We've gone up between 80 and 100 spots this year.

[engie]

we have absolutely the worst fans in college sports. i know all schools have their share of complete clowns, but it's really not even close. look no further than this ****tard for proof.

and no, i'm not sorry in the least for using insulting language. this topic has been hashed and rehashed time and again. some people really do want us to fail in men's basketball because they are so butthurt about the coaching change, whether its the fire or the hire. at this point it is really just infuriating.

/rantoff

Exactly.

The bad thing is -- these ****ers are trying to paint me into a "Ray lover" corner -- when my ONLY point is that it's ****ing stupid to try to draw much from these two years. But they are literally too stupid to see the err of the ignorance of their position.

[TheRef]

If I would've known that this would've turned into a pissing match I wouldn't have posted this thread. But since this has turned into a damn pissing match, I'm about sick and tired of y'all. As many of you know, I watch the basketball games religiously and listen to it on the radio when I can't watch. I've noticed an improvement with this team from last season. Are they still frustrating as hell to watch at times? You're damn right. Does this mean that we are as bad as last year? Hell no. Did any of us realistically think that we would make any sort of tournament this year? I can guarantee you that NO ONE thought we would make a tournament and no one has predicted so yet this year. So what's the point of this pissing match? To see who can influence the administration to keep/fire RR? Well I can tell you that none of y'all will be able to determine that. And yes, they are doing gimmicks to put asses in seats. But they did the same exact thing during Stansbury's last year to put butts in seats due to the piss-poor performance of the team down the stretch. I've been with the team through the highs, and you bet your ass I was one of the few students who stayed during every single slaughter that we were at the hands of during the bad years. Why? Because I bleed MSU and I will always support the basketball team. I can bet that most of you can't say that. I can be that most of you would have walked out at halftime during a slaughter, and don't say you wouldn't because I know how you people are. You talk like you're the greatest fans in the world and as if you know all there is about basketball. Then you walk out on the team at halftime and YOU'RE the reason why the team is demoralized game in and game out. Fans like you are the reason why I want to punch people in the face. Extreme? Maybe. My true feelings? You're damn right.
/rant

[engie]

I keep forgetting I'm talking to someone who rode the short bus to school. Indiana was on probation for Crean's first 3 years with recruiting sanctions to deal with. He inherited a team with ONE returning scholarship player. They were dealing with death penalty worries and Sampson got nailed. They had 7 players transfer.

You are literally too stupid to see the similarity in the situations aren't you?

[TheRef]

And for those of you wondering if we've hit rock bottom, not even close. I present to you the Champion Baptist College Tigers against the Southern University Jaguars