Applewhite to Transfer

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I know a couple guys with the program. Not players.

Who's your source, if you don't mind?

[engie]

Only way to spin this positive is if we get a Pollard or somebody like that signed after the season.

Are we 100% sure that Pollard would be ineligible to come at Christmas? I know it's a little dicey with academic qualifiers that kick back to JUCO.

I know football players can early enroll back into a 4-yr school after one semester in JUCO(Cam Newton, etc...) -- but they aren't playing in actual games in that first semester back in the big school. So maybe that's a difference?

[smootness]

So apparently Applewhite wanted a bigger role in the offense. Not sure what you say about that except good luck finding it.

And this is why you see so many college basketball transfers. I don't know what it is about basketball, but so many kids have a view of themselves that is different from reality. It may be bred during AAU or because they usually carried the load in HS, but you see a lot of kids like this...pretty good players who weren't especially highly-recruited, that get a chance at a BCS school, aren't 'the man' right away early in their careers, and want to go somewhere where they think they can make that happen.

I know I'm generalizing in the case of Applewhite, and I don't know him and know very little about him, just saying that is becoming a pretty common thing in college basketball. Rarely do you see anyone stay and graduate at a school if he doesn't at least start at some point in his career. I get it at places like UNC...if you can't cut it there, you still may be able to be a big deal at a decent school. But this is just the way it goes, has to be incredibly frustrating for coaches.

If it's true that he wanted a bigger role in the offense, he's going to have to go to a place like UNC-Greensboro or the like, and even then he may struggle to find what he wants. It's not like we're lighting the world on fire. I think if he had stayed the course, he could have been a really big contributor in his career, though he's never going to be a go-to guy on a good team. He should have taken the Roquez Johnson approach and become the 'energy guy' who does all the little things. Ah well.

[Mts68]

Who's your source, if you don't mind?

Just said that on 24/7.

[engie]

What kind of me-first player quits and transfers mid-season though? There's a right way and a wrong way to do things... Unless there is more to the story than meets the eye(hence my previous post's speculation)

[Ifyouonlyknew]

I don't think he could but Cam was in juco 2 semesters.

Are we 100% sure that Pollard would be ineligible to come at Christmas? I know it's a little dicey with academic qualifiers that kick back to JUCO.

I know football players can early enroll back into a 4-yr school after one semester in JUCO(Cam Newton, etc...) -- but they aren't playing in actual games in that first semester back in the big school. So maybe that's a difference?

[Coach34]

So apparently Applewhite wanted a bigger role in the offense. Not sure what you say about that except good luck finding it.

We dont have anybody that can shoot as it is- get the damn ball and take it to the hole or fill it up. He needs to go play juco ball if he wants a bigger role

[ScottH]

Can Daniels play?

I know redshirt is the plan.

[maroonmania]

Just said that on 24/7.

Well what lightly recruited player like Applewhite would transfer for that reason 12 games into his freshman season? I mean Ray signed him in the spring because he was one of the few HS players still available late when Ray first arrived at MSU. Either Applewhite is an idiot or there is more to the story.

[smootness]

Can Daniels play?

I know redshirt is the plan.

It wouldn't make much sense to do so. He would then have to quit playing in the middle of the year in 2015-2016.

[HailState39110]

I would guess there is more to this story. Even Stan's players would wait till the end of the year to transfer

[MadDawg]

I sure am glad the transfer problem has been fixed.

[smootness]

I sure am glad the transfer problem has been fixed.

It isn't a State problem.

[TheRef]

It isn't a State problem.

425 transfers last year.

[smootness]

425 transfers last year.

That is insane. Basketball needs a complete overhaul, at every level. Figure out a way to either remove AAU or drastically reduce its influence (hard for me to figure out a way to do this, may be impossible); either bump the age limit for the NBA up 2 years or institute a baseball-like policy, and figure out a way to make the NBA less about the superstar and more about the team (has already happened to some degree recently, and this may be essentially impossible as well).

[Political Hack]

So many assumptions going on here. You have no clue what goes on within the team. You have no clue what goes on in practice. Experts all the way around with limited knowledge of the situation and you are laying this on Ray, not the player himself. Strike 1 my ass. You act like a bunch of playground thugs who ****ing know it all. **** APPLEWHITE the QUITTER.

unless you know otherwise aren't you doing the same thing to a kid that others on here are doing to an adult? I've always taken the stance that it's ok to rip a coach or a grown man, but don't go after the kids. that's BS.

[Political Hack]

What kind of me-first player quits and transfers mid-season though? There's a right way and a wrong way to do things... Unless there is more to the story than meets the eye(hence my previous post's speculation)

I have a pretty strong feeling that there's more to the story.

[Dawg61]

I'd rather have Pollard or a Juco 3point specialist who can start playing right now. Applewhite not finishing this season points to something else just happened and he's now "transferring". Kinda like Trae Golden was banging the judicial affairs faculty member at UT and then just suddenly "transferred" to GTech. Tevin Moore and DeRunnya Wilson can fill Applewhite's minutes till next year.

[preachermatt83]

Rick Ray will not be a head basketball coach in major college basketball after next season. It's time to start facing the music guys.

[Johnson85]

That is insane. Basketball needs a complete overhaul, at every level.

You already have to sit out a year unless you move to a lower division. If somebody wants to transfer at that price, they should be able to.