Some Thoughts on a Very Disappointing Night

[Steakonastick]

The number of bulldog club members is quite embarrassing. You don't have to give a large amount at all to join. I'm not sure there's a minimum amount required to join.

Give a 100 bucks a year. That’s it.

[Saltydog]

But now your asking the season ticket holder to do something that could be a hassle.

How about a notification going out to the season ticket holders phone 12 hours before game time.

The notification would ask: How many of your tickets will you use for today's game?

Ticket holder selects how many, gets bulldog points added to their account for the unused ones, and the unused go on sale to GA.

Easy peasy, problem solved. The key is the notification system and the athletic departments taking the initiative rather expecting the fan too.

I agree with a notification system of some sort but sometime I will not know if I'm going to be able to attend until the day of the game itself. What's the old saying, "shit happens". There obviously won't be a one size fits all solution that makes everyone happy but there are some things that could reasonably be done to make the process easier and allow those who aren't season tix owners to occupy the unused seats of the "rich effers" (lol) as you suggest. BTW, I can assure you I'm not one of them. I'm simply a guy that loves MSU baseball and has been attending games at the Dude since the late 70's.

[shannondawg]

$ is what built the stadium.

[shannondawg]

I would suggest something a little different. If a chairback owner decides he/she's not going to the game and doesn't have someone specifically to transfer the tix too (I occasionally have that issue for some midweek games), they could simply transfer them back to the box office. Then, anyone could walk up and purchase unoccupied chairbacks. The school would capitalize as they would have sold the tix essentially twice. Again, this would require some discipline of behalf of the season tix owner but I absolutely hate for my tix to go unused and would do it every single time I couldn't make it or didn't have someone taking my tix.

I see the logic in what you are saying, but then many season tickets holders would say "why buy tickets, I can get better seats on game day without the premium."

[ShotgunDawg]

$ is what built the stadium.

Nobody is disagreeing with that.

That's why the solution needs to work for everyone.

[Saltydog]

I see the logic in what you are saying, but then many season tickets holders would say "why buy tickets, I can get better seats on game day without the premium."

Ok then, charge more for the seat. The tix are $10/seat. Charge $20, charge $30. In addition, if the season tix owner did as you suggest, well they wouldn't be guaranteed a ticket and would have to wait in line at the ticket office to get one. Most don't or wouldn't want to do this only to move a section or two over from what they may have had. I don't have all the answers but I do agree there needs to be a better system in place to utilize the grandstand seats.

[Saltydog]

Nobody is disagreeing with that.

That's why the solution needs to work for everyone.

AND therein lies the problem Shotgun. There won't be a solution that works for everyone.

[ShotgunDawg]

I see the logic in what you are saying, but then many season tickets holders would say "why buy tickets, I can get better seats on game day without the premium."

Since these people don't attend games anyway, it seems like they are just making a donation and thus would still buy the full season ticket.

[ShotgunDawg]

AND therein lies the problem Shotgun. There won't be a solution that works for everyone.

I disagree. My idea of a notification system works for everyone.

[Dawg2003]

Maybe I'm wrong, but those empty seats are bringing in revenue. How much I don't know.

[Saltydog]

I disagree. My idea of a notification system works for everyone.

Actually, it doesn't. I'll give you an example. My son is in school at State. If I can't make it, which is usually during the week, I'll tell him to take the tix and take him and his buds. Now, most of the time he won't know until the afternoon of the game whether or not he can make it (awfully hard to nail down college kids if you know what I mean). Now, I could've possibly given them to someone else that may have gone but my family always has and always will get first shot. Again, your system could work but to suggest it's full proof is a fallacy.

[Saltydog]

Maybe I'm wrong, but those empty seats are bringing in revenue. How much I don't know.

Yes, and allowing the owner to electronically return the seat to the box office for resale at double the face value would create even more revenue for the program and allow those that can attend premium seating.

[msstate7]

Yes, and allowing the owner to electronically return the seat to the box office for resale at double the face value would create even more revenue for the program and allow those that can attend premium seating.

What's the benefit to the ticket owner to do this? They'd have to get compensated some for the resale

[ShotgunDawg]

Actually, it doesn't. I'll give you an example. My son is in school at State. If I can't make it, which is usually during the week, I'll tell him to take the tix and take him and his buds. Now, most of the time he won't know until the afternoon of the game whether or not he can make it (awfully hard to nail down college kids if you know what I mean). Now, I could've possibly given them to someone else that may have gone but my family always has and always will get first shot. Again, your system could work but to suggest it's full proof is a fallacy.

You're misunderstanding my plan.

There is no punishment for pushing "yes" to attending the game & then not attending. You are completely free to carry on as you always have.

However, if you push "no" then your seats go on sale & you get bulldog club points.

The system doesn't force anyone to do anything. It just makes it easier for people to do something & they get rewarded if they do.

[ShotgunDawg]

What's the benefit to the ticket owner to do this? They'd have to get compensated some for the resale

Bulldog club points or maybe a $1 off voucher at the concessions added to their account.

We can come up with simple little incentives.

Could create a concessions app like Starbucks has where they scan your app when your at the counter or a phone number points system like Walgreens, CVS, & Jersey Mikes have. Little discounts can be added & subtracted through that.

[Saltydog]

What's the benefit to the ticket owner to do this? They'd have to get compensated some for the resale

The benefit is that the seat would potentially have a body in it. I don't expect anything in return for the owner. The school and the person who bought the tickets would be the winners.

[shannondawg]

At least we have sro crowds , so what if a few seats go unused that are bought and paid for, bet more sec schools would give their eye teeth to have that problem.

[HoopsDawg]

You're misunderstanding my plan.

There is no punishment for pushing "yes" to attending the game & then not attending. You are completely free to carry on as you always have.

However, if you push "no" then your seats go on sale & you get bulldog club points.

The system doesn't force anyone to do anything. It just makes it easier for people to do something & they get rewarded if they do.

I like your thoughts but it's really just as simple as opening up the grandstand after the 2nd inning.

[ShotgunDawg]

I like your thoughts but it's really just as simple as opening up the grandstand after the 2nd inning.

True

[BuckyIsAB****]

The grandstand issue is way past beyond time to fix. And we have the technology available to fix it. What we have done is basically taken the average Joe fan and thrown them on the grass or we make them stand while there are hundreds of empty seats in the grandstand. And you can't just sit in a seat usually because the overzealous ushers make sure everyone is in their assigned seats.

I think it's at the point now where seats in the grandstand only should matter for Super Bulldog Weekend and postseason play. And that's it. Every other game- open seating first come first served.

I agree with that. Or at least do it like they used to and open it up after the 5th or 6th inning, whatever it was