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Nobody forced that SOB to say what he did today. If he is going to open his fat mouth and flatulent comes spewing out your damn right I'm going to hold him accountable. He damn sure is changing our culture from expecting to compete for championships to the reality is we have sucked since 1941 and we still do.
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Originally Posted by
msstate7
Joe also told these players to know their ring sizes and for fitz to clear off his mantle for a heisman.
Honestly what did you want him to say? We might win a few lose a few?
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Originally Posted by
CowtownDawg
This part has to be a joke, right? Mullen finished above .500 in the SEC exactly once in 9 years in the 2014 season.
SEC record by season:
2010: 4-4
2011: 2-6
2012: 4-4
2013: 3-5
2014: 6-2
2015: 4-4
2016: 3-5
2017: 4-4
Please point out to me the 5 to 6 seasons out of the last 8 where we were in contention for the SEC. Out of those 8 seasons, assuming Joe wins the last 2, he will have matched Mullen's conference record in 4 of the 8 seasons and exceeded Mullen's record in 3 of the 8. I'm not overly thrilled with Joe or this season, but at least be honest.
ETA: not even putting in 2009 since it was a monumental effort to do as well as he did overcoming Croom.
10, 12, 14, 16, 17 Did we win...obviously no...and we fell off a good bit in those years at the end but in all of those I mentioned we were AT LEAST in the hunt at some point. We were NEVER in the hunt this year with presumably more talent than we have ever had.
HELL...when was the LAST TIME we scored 0 ****ing points????? 2008! That's right....CROOM! If you don't think that is tracking backwards as a program then you have damn blinders on. It's bad. Really bad.
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Originally Posted by
Dawgology
10, 12, 14, 16, 17 Did we win...obviously no...and we fell off a good bit in those years at the end but in all of those I mentioned we were AT LEAST in the hunt at some point. We were NEVER in the hunt this year with presumably more talent than we have ever had.
HELL...when was the LAST TIME we scored 0 ****ing points????? 2008! That's right....CROOM! If you don't think that is tracking backwards as a program then you have damn blinders on. It's bad. Really bad.
Croom the 2nd has been a tremendous disappointment is major understatement. His fat mouth spewing BS that his ass couldn't back up makes him out to be a clown. If you are going to talk like that you sure should be able to back it up and ole NOMo ain't doing it. I fear next year when our talent levels drops off, needs to be 2 and gone.
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Originally Posted by
Gutter Cobreh
This made me laugh!
This is correct. Mullen is a master at manipulating the fanbase (MSU's and Florida's) to his way of thinking. He did it for years here, to the point, that posters on this site firmly believe we'd be 10-0 or 9-1 right now if he was the coach. He has the Florida fanbase thinking their lucky to have him now because he inherited a rag tag bunch of players at UF (which is not the case) and overachieved this year (offense under him has improved).
Moorhead is refreshing because he doesn't "coach speak" nearly as much as Mullen does. The issue at hand is that we have a fanbase that thrives on believing everything that comes out of the coach's mouth and takes it as gospel truth.
Moorhead would be even more refreshing if his offense worked against anyone with a pulse.
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Also seems bad when UM up the road cannot seem to.miss a big throw downfield.
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Originally Posted by
Political Hack
Our new logo: "Championship standard... well, sort of."
Lol, well played.
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Well, I already knew this thread would be filled to the brim with negativity from one of the most toxic and negative posters to touch Elitedawgs, 99jc. I seem to recall Mullen saying we were going to win championships too and a decade later we haven't. One thing Joe has done is bring out of lot of our sunny day fans. I like Joe and I hope he gets another couples of years to see what he can do. If he's not the answer then so be it, but I'm not going to crucify the guy in his first season.
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Originally Posted by
Matt3467
Well, I already knew this thread would be filled to the brim with negativity from one of the most toxic and negative posters to touch Elitedawgs, 99jc. I seem to recall Mullen saying we were going to win championships too and a decade later we haven't. One thing Joe has done is bring out of lot of our sunny day fans. I like Joe and I hope he gets another couples of years to see what he can do. If he's not the answer then so be it, but I'm not going to crucify the guy in his first season.
Couple of years lol.....Rebel alert.
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Originally Posted by
Matt3467
Well, I already knew this thread would be filled to the brim with negativity from one of the most toxic and negative posters to touch Elitedawgs, 99jc. I seem to recall Mullen saying we were going to win championships too and a decade later we haven't. One thing Joe has done is bring out of lot of our sunny day fans. I like Joe and I hope he gets another couples of years to see what he can do. If he's not the answer then so be it, but I'm not going to crucify the guy in his first season.
Couple of years?! Lmao...totally disconnected from the reality of current SEC football.
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Originally Posted by
Doggie_Style
You forgot the best part: [B]"There's really not a barometer for what it takes to win an SEC Championship in Starkville."
Win a Championship? Nobody would be complaining if we had won 10 games, very few would be complaining if we had beat KY and won 9 and fewer would complain if we had beaten FL and won 9.
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1996, MSU was in the SEC Championship game, almost pulled it off. His comment is insulting and ignorant.
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Hey, Moorhead, in Starkville we do have a barometer for what makes a good offense and we don't have one right now.
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Originally Posted by
KentuckyDawg13
1996, MSU was in the SEC Championship game, almost pulled it off. His comment is insulting and ignorant.
You might want to google MSU SEC championship game appearances before you comment.
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Originally Posted by
bluelightstar
Yes, totally our fault. What made us think we should average more than 4 points a game against Kentucky, LSU, Florida, and Alabama? I mean, more than one touchdown in those 4 SEC games combined is really asking a lot!

Considering that's not what I was getting at, your comment is irrelevant to mine. Continue on with whatever narrative you want to go with that helps you feel justified though.
Fact is, one extra touchdown in any of those games you listed besides Florida wouldn't have made one bit of difference. I'm not saying I didn't have high hopes. I bought into some hype too but it didn't pan out. I'm sure Moorhead didn't plan it this way. All the "This is the year" crap is what was so toxic.
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Originally Posted by
KentuckyDawg13
1996, MSU was in the SEC Championship game, almost pulled it off. His comment is insulting and ignorant.
We were in the championship game in 1998, and that was a year that we lost to Kentucky and a 5-6 Oklahoma State team.
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Originally Posted by
THE Bruce Dickinson
We were in the championship game in 1998, and that was a year that we lost to Kentucky and a 5-6 Oklahoma State team.
Throw shade on one of our best accomplishments ever. We should apologize for beating top 10 ark to win the west and playing the national champs toe to toe in Atlanta.
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Y'all getting trolled like little school kids.
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Originally Posted by
StateDawg44
Considering that's not what I was getting at, your comment is irrelevant to mine. Continue on with whatever narrative you want to go with that helps you feel justified though.
Fact is, one extra touchdown in any of those games you listed besides Florida wouldn't have made one bit of difference. I'm not saying I didn't have high hopes. I bought into some hype too but it didn't pan out. I'm sure Moorhead didn't plan it this way. All the "This is the year" crap is what was so toxic.
So expecting a championship run with one of our most talented teams ever is toxic????? Wow...
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Originally Posted by
StateDawg44
Considering that's not what I was getting at, your comment is irrelevant to mine. Continue on with whatever narrative you want to go with that helps you feel justified though.
Fact is, one extra touchdown in any of those games you listed besides Florida wouldn't have made one bit of difference. I'm not saying I didn't have high hopes. I bought into some hype too but it didn't pan out. I'm sure Moorhead didn't plan it this way. All the "This is the year" crap is what was so toxic.
We are down 15 points in SEC games not 1 TD
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