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    The Problems Are Very Simple

    Peeps, no need for a long post this week. The problems are glaringly obvious:

    1. Our DBs are very, very slow. C34 might've been right a couple of weeks ago when he said they might be SWAC bad. The 3 starting SEC QBs we've faced this year have combined for a total of 8 incomplete passes.

    2. DL is beat up and struggles to generate pass rush.

    3. OL is struggling, but they're not terrible.

    4. QB is limiting us completely. Don't think I remember us having a QB that has so many passes batted down. Will is short, but Tyson Lee was shorter and I don't remember him having a bunch of batted passes. I think it's a combination of a low release point and Will being either unable or unwilling to move off his spot to create throwing lanes for himself. We've discussed his lack of arm strength ad nauseum, no need to rehash that particular issue.

    Combine all of those and it's just impossible to beat any SEC team. I feel bad for Arnett. He sees the deficiencies, but most of them can't really be fixed until the portal opens and/or we recruit our way out of it. We should be going hard after DBs as soon as the portal is open. Ditto a QB. Until then, let's just roll with Wright and see what happens. It really can't be much worse and his mobility should at least allow him to make some big plays scrambling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg View Post
    Peeps, no need for a long post this week. The problems are glaringly obvious:

    1. Our DBs are very, very slow. C34 might've been right a couple of weeks ago when he said they might be SWAC bad. The 3 starting SEC QBs we've faced this year have combined for a total of 8 incomplete passes.

    2. DL is beat up and struggles to generate pass rush.

    3. OL is struggling, but they're not terrible.

    4. QB is limiting us completely. Don't think I remember us having a QB that has so many passes batted down. Will is short, but Tyson Lee was shorter and I don't remember him having a bunch of batted passes. I think it's a combination of a low release point and Will being either unable or unwilling to move off his spot to create throwing lanes for himself. We've discussed his lack of arm strength ad nauseum, no need to rehash that particular issue.

    Combine all of those and it's just impossible to beat any SEC team. I feel bad for Arnett. He sees the deficiencies, but most of them can't really be fixed until the portal opens and/or we recruit our way out of it. We should be going hard after DBs as soon as the portal is open. Ditto a QB. Until then, let's just roll with Wright and see what happens. It really can't be much worse and his mobility should at least allow him to make some big plays scrambling.
    Not saying it's valid but the Bama and Auburn folks over here and think Arnett's in over his head.

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    Small, short, slow, weak arm, and scared aren't exactly qualities you want in your starting QB.

    He ain't our only problem, but he's a big one.

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    No correlation between height and batted passes. Bryce Young is 5?10 and doesn?t have the issue because he is mobile in the pocket and finds throwing lanes. Which is Wills biggest flaw. His arm is not ideal but it?s fine for college, his mobility is his #1 limiting factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton View Post
    Not saying it's valid but the Bama and Auburn folks over here and think Arnett's in over his head.
    Bama fans must not be aware of the TDs we scored since 1997 ***

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEDawg View Post
    No correlation between height and batted passes. Bryce Young is 5?10 and doesn?t have the issue because he is mobile in the pocket and finds throwing lanes. Which is Wills biggest flaw. His arm is not ideal but it?s fine for college, his mobility is his #1 limiting factor.
    No correlation?? Or it isn't all height. ... there certainly is a correlation. But it's not all if it.

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    Will is a legit 6'2". He's plenty tall enough. He weighs enough too. He just can't move and has a weak arm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton View Post
    Not saying it's valid but the Bama and Auburn folks over here and think Arnett's in over his head.
    Not saying it's valid but LSU fans are saying Brian Kelly is in over his head too
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Not saying it's valid but LSU fans are saying Brian Kelly is in over his head too
    That will be a fun thing to watch this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    Will is a legit 6'2". He's plenty tall enough. He weighs enough too. He just can't move and has a weak arm.
    No shit! He could Teabag Tua, Russell Wilson, and Bryce Young standing.

    The coaches 17ed up by doing a wholesale offensive change and it?s Crystal clear.

    I?m sure this O could work great in the future, however a completely green HC with no Saban, Meyer, et al pedigree plus a completely new O staff is a 50/50 shot. And we lost that gamble.

    It?s really that simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPMT View Post
    No shit! He could Teabag Tua, Russell Wilson, and Bryce Young standing.

    The coaches 17ed up by doing a wholesale offensive change and it?s Crystal clear.

    I?m sure this O could work great in the future, however a completely green HC with no Saban, Meyer, et al pedigree plus a completely new O staff is a 50/50 shot. And we lost that gamble.

    It?s really that simple.
    Amen....and I would like to know those involved with the changes other than Arnett, and kick them to the curb as well. It was clear when he let Mason Miller go, and hired an OL coach before an OC that he had people in his ear.
    I seriously think Dr. Keenum could have picked someone off the offensive staff, and keep Arnett as DC and it would have been no worse than right now, if not more competitive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SPMT View Post
    No shit! He could Teabag Tua, Russell Wilson, and Bryce Young standing.

    The coaches 17ed up by doing a wholesale offensive change and it?s Crystal clear.

    I?m sure this O could work great in the future, however a completely green HC with no Saban, Meyer, et al pedigree plus a completely new O staff is a 50/50 shot. And we lost that gamble.

    It?s really that simple.
    Y?all Will apologists act like this issue wasn?t glaring last year. And no matter who calls the plays, it?s not Leach. It?s like some of y?all didn?t watch the bowl game. Will was atrocious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg View Post
    Peeps, no need for a long post this week. The problems are glaringly obvious:

    1. Our DBs are very, very slow. C34 might've been right a couple of weeks ago when he said they might be SWAC bad. The 3 starting SEC QBs we've faced this year have combined for a total of 8 incomplete passes.

    2. DL is beat up and struggles to generate pass rush.

    3. OL is struggling, but they're not terrible.

    4. QB is limiting us completely. Don't think I remember us having a QB that has so many passes batted down. Will is short, but Tyson Lee was shorter and I don't remember him having a bunch of batted passes. I think it's a combination of a low release point and Will being either unable or unwilling to move off his spot to create throwing lanes for himself. We've discussed his lack of arm strength ad nauseum, no need to rehash that particular issue.

    Combine all of those and it's just impossible to beat any SEC team. I feel bad for Arnett. He sees the deficiencies, but most of them can't really be fixed until the portal opens and/or we recruit our way out of it. We should be going hard after DBs as soon as the portal is open. Ditto a QB. Until then, let's just roll with Wright and see what happens. It really can't be much worse and his mobility should at least allow him to make some big plays scrambling.
    Arnett could change QBs, adjust the OL a little, and improve his recruiting because that defense is on empty in the talent tank. So I don't feel sorry for a guy getting rich and refusing to adjust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    Arnett could change QBs, adjust the OL a little, and improve his recruiting because that defense is on empty in the talent tank. So I don't feel sorry for a guy getting rich and refusing to adjust.
    Arnett has three years of recruiting for his defense. The tank shouldn't be this empty. The talent evaluation is severely lacking with this D staff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrapGame View Post
    Arnett has three years of recruiting for his defense. The tank shouldn't be this empty. The talent evaluation is severely lacking with this D staff.
    I'm looking at the depth chart and every starter but 2 was on last year's roster. All but 3 are Srs and Grads. Mostly Grads. Maybe we are banged up some on D but our D is giving up completion % that QBs working with WRs on their own (after practice) can't hardly achieve.

    But, but ... our expectations are too high. We've only beaten LSU 3 times in 15 years (but in last 8 all very close games except 2019 LSU Natty team). FWIW ... we gained as many yards against Bama's 2020 Natty team in T-Town with a true freshman QB during the Covid year as we did against LSU this year.

    Last year it was win 10 or AR sucks, Leach sucks, and will never succeed in SEC. This with UGA & Bama on our schedule. Sounds reasonable don't it?? ****

    I'm betting that if this staff does make it past this year, I imagine anytime we think we might have a possible 10 win team every 4 or 5 years, we'll probably be reminded that our expectations are just too high and we are being unreasonable. Although I also think it will be a long time before we ever might think that again.

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    Last week vs USCe Will was getting passes batted down "because he's too short". But, Rattler, who is an inch and a half shorter, isn't too short.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leroy Jenkins View Post
    Last week vs USCe Will was getting passes batted down "because he's too short". But, Rattler, who is an inch and a half shorter, isn't too short.
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    Quote Originally Posted by War Machine Dawg View Post
    Peeps, no need for a long post this week. The problems are glaringly obvious:

    1. Our DBs are very, very slow. C34 might've been right a couple of weeks ago when he said they might be SWAC bad. The 3 starting SEC QBs we've faced this year have combined for a total of 8 incomplete passes.

    2. DL is beat up and struggles to generate pass rush.

    3. OL is struggling, but they're not terrible.

    4. QB is limiting us completely. Don't think I remember us having a QB that has so many passes batted down. Will is short, but Tyson Lee was shorter and I don't remember him having a bunch of batted passes. I think it's a combination of a low release point and Will being either unable or unwilling to move off his spot to create throwing lanes for himself. We've discussed his lack of arm strength ad nauseum, no need to rehash that particular issue.

    Combine all of those and it's just impossible to beat any SEC team. I feel bad for Arnett. He sees the deficiencies, but most of them can't really be fixed until the portal opens and/or we recruit our way out of it. We should be going hard after DBs as soon as the portal is open. Ditto a QB. Until then, let's just roll with Wright and see what happens. It really can't be much worse and his mobility should at least allow him to make some big plays scrambling.
    Deficiencies are his fault.

    - On defense, he was over recruiting for it for the last 3 years.

    - On offense, he made the decision to move totally away from what these vets have been in for 3 years. That's all on him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton View Post
    Not saying it's valid but the Bama and Auburn folks over here and think Arnett's in over his head.
    Yep friend that played OL at Bama was messaging me during the game. "WTH have ya'll done?" He immediately saw the DL and OL issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEDawg View Post
    No correlation between height and batted passes. Bryce Young is 5?10 and doesn?t have the issue because he is mobile in the pocket and finds throwing lanes. Which is Wills biggest flaw. His arm is not ideal but it?s fine for college, his mobility is his #1 limiting factor.
    And that was talked about too. Our OL are not engaging enough to keep them from jumping.

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