Soooooo to recap the season so far

[Coach34]

1. We lost to Bama as we always do
2. We lost to LSU as we normally do with a few wins sprinkled in here and there (3-12 in the last 15)
3. We lost on the road in the SEC to the East team as we usually do (2-7 the last 8 years)
4. We beat both OOC teams

But we have people freaking out and losing their minds. Literally nothing has changed with State football under Arnett. You guys acting like this is Croom like are insane

[Goldendawg]

JMO, but your recent defense of Lemonis after the last two years finishing 14th & 13th in the conference and now a FB staff putting such a poor product on the field to date leaves me baffled. I believed we were going to have at least a 7 win season, but looks like the media and the other SEC West coaches knew something I didn't know when we were picked dead last coming off a 9 win season with the most veteran players in the league returning. Compare our performance to date to every other SEC team Sat except Vandy of course and maybe Ark, (forgot FL and Sunbelt Billy, glad we don't have him still, longterm). We are a poorly prepared and coached mess so far. Fire away.

[Coach34]

JMO, but your recent defense of Lemonis after the last two years finishing 14th & 13th in the conference and now a FB staff putting such a poor product on the field to date leaves me baffled. I believed we were going to have at least a 7 win season, but looks like the media and the other SEC West coaches knew something I didn't know when we were picked dead last coming off a 9 win season with the most veteran players in the league returning. Compare our performance to date to every other SEC team Sat except Vandy of course and maybe Ark, (forgot FL and Sunbelt Billy, glad we don't have him still, longterm). We are a poorly prepared and coached mess so far. Fire away.

I 100% believe both will get better.

Already have lots of positive news coming out of Fall baseball

I also believe football gets better but I do worry that our Secondary is so bad that we may not make the 6 wins. But very encouraged with the offense getting better. Just got to let it play out.

[Goldendawg]

I 100% believe both will get better.

Already have lots of positive news coming out of Fall baseball

I also believe football gets better but I do worry that our Secondary is so bad that we may not make the 6 wins. But very encouraged with the offense getting better. Just got to let it play out.

Well put. Let's get it around ASAP in both sports. Football quickly.

[Quaoarsking]

I also believe football gets better but I do worry that our Secondary is so bad that we may not make the 6 wins. But very encouraged with the offense getting better. Just got to let it play out.

Not making it to 6 wins is a total disaster for the program and a sub-Moorhead performance out of Arnett. You can't play the "we're just doing what we always do" card and also casually toss out that we may end our bowl streak after 13 years.

[Santiago]

I 100% believe both will get better.

Already have lots of positive news coming out of Fall baseball

I also believe football gets better but I do worry that our Secondary is so bad that we may not make the 6 wins. But very encouraged with the offense getting better. Just got to let it play out.

I ran into the grandfather of a freshman baseball player this weekend. He said "it sounds like those kids had a tough time throwing strikes for the past couple of years". LOL. He was a nice guy, and I said yeah that is putting it in a nice summary.

[BrunswickDawg]

I 100% believe both will get better.

Already have lots of positive news coming out of Fall baseball

I also believe football gets better but I do worry that our Secondary is so bad that we may not make the 6 wins. But very encouraged with the offense getting better. Just got to let it play out.

I really don't know what to make of this new "glass half full" Coach34. I feel like Ricky Bobby during his first live interview - "I don't know what to do with my hands..."

[Coach34]

I really don't know what to make of this new "glass half full" Coach34. I feel like Ricky Bobby during his first live interview - "I don't know what to do with my hands..."

It's just reality.

Lemon better make it happen or he is gone. It's cut and dry for 2024.

Arnett gets two years to show he was the correct choice. I like the direction of the offense and really surprised at how bad the Secondary is on D. But that happens when you lose NFL caliber players and replace them with role players that just arent starter type guys. They have 2 weeks to get alot better on D or things will certainly get worse

[BrunswickDawg]

It's just reality.

Lemon better make it happen or he is gone. It's cut and dry for 2024.

Arnett gets two years to show he was the correct choice. I like the direction of the offense and really surprised at how bad the Secondary is on D. But that happens when you lose NFL caliber players and replace them with role players that just arent starter type guys. They have 2 weeks to get alot better on D or things will certainly get worse

I don't disagree with the points.
As much grief as Lemo has gotten, the reality is that going into 2022 everyone knew we were thinner and that 2023 would be a rebuild year. Well, thin in '22 became a disaster when our top pitching was injured. That put even more pressure on a '23 team most expected to be a down season anyway. So, giving Lemo the chance to fix it is logical based on his first 3 seasons and his built up cred from a Natty. As you say - it is real cut and dry for Lemonis' fate.

Football is a different beast - but barring finding Arnett with a dead girl or a live boy, he will likely be back. The real issue to me is too many of our fans want a Cadillac, but they only want to pay for Chevy Citation. It makes keeping a roster intact hard, but also means you can't miss with guys you bring in via the portal. We can't afford to take players from the portal who need development. We missed on Goede, we missed on Spivey (though that wasn't our fault), we missed on Radar Jones, Jamari Brown, & Khamari Rogers, and Albert got hurt. We needed all of those bodies to contribute - and that lack of contribution at 3 positions of need (TE, S, CB) has hurt tremendously.

[DownwardDawg]

Time will tell. That's the only fact right now.

[cheewgumm]

amen

[confucius say]

We have 7 games left to find that out. If we win 5/6 of them to get to 7-5/8-4, you're right.

[Quaoarsking]

Our FPI ranking is currently #45. In the last decade, we've only been worse than that twice. (And only barely - #51 in 2016 and #52 in 2020.) There's still time for it to get better, but also time for it to get worse. We are clearly in worse shape than we all expected to be, and that's a huge red flag.

[Todd4State]

Our FPI ranking is currently #45. In the last decade, we've only been worse than that twice. (And only barely - #51 in 2016 and #52 in 2020.) There's still time for it to get better, but also time for it to get worse. We are clearly in worse shape than we all expected to be, and that's a huge red flag.

Currently we're 87th in both total offense and defense nationally.

We're pretty close to Croom and Sirmon territory right now.

And we've played the 13th and 14th best defenses in the SEC while Alabama has been the best.

It looks dicey and it feels dicey.

[basedog]

Currently we're 87th in both total offense and defense nationally.

We're pretty close to Croom and Sirmon territory right now.

And we've played the 13th and 14th best defenses in the SEC while Alabama has been the best.

It looks dicey and it feels dicey.

It's dicey indeed. My question moving forward is how the players respond or don't respond, losing causes misery not to fans but players. Arnett and staff have to motivate and keep the locker room, with new coaches it can be dicey as you stated.

[R2Dawg]

Our FPI ranking is currently #45. In the last decade, we've only been worse than that twice. (And only barely - #51 in 2016 and #52 in 2020.) There's still time for it to get better, but also time for it to get worse. We are clearly in worse shape than we all expected to be, and that's a huge red flag.

Interesting. I will say 16 was a strange year. We screwed with QB against USA and lost due to not playing the right guy - Fitz. At the end of 16, we were doing OK. Hammer OM with Fitz and Atrain. That D was terrible but it wasn't talent. We had some dudes on that team although some of it still young - 17 and 18 proved that out. I don't think we are as good on O or D as 16 right now but we can still find a few wins to make 6, I'll take that right now.

[Cooterpoot]

LOL

[dawgday166]

Not bad points HOWEVER ... Where was this post last year? You could've made the same exact post last year except we played Natty winner GA at home.

Plus ... we don't usually lose to Vandy level SECe teams on the road. And even tho we usually lose to LSU, outside of 2019 I'm pretty sure we haven't taken an ass kicking like this year in the past 8 years ... maybe that's why you stretched that one out to 15. Plus ... Leach is one of the 3 wins.

Carry on your water toting. Tell your homeboys to get this shit turned around.

[CaptainObvious]

If we don?t hang 65 on Western Michigan with 700+ yards, this is a 4-8 or 5-7 team at best.

[BuckyIsAB****]

I knew it was coming. The real facts are some of us didnt appreciate what we had with Leach just because he didnt do things our way.

Be careful what you wish for