Soooooo to recap the season so far

[Coach34]

1. We lost to Bama as we always do
2. We lost to LSU as we normally do with a few wins sprinkled in here and there (3-12 in the last 15)
3. We lost on the road in the SEC to the East team as we usually do (2-7 the last 8 years)
4. We beat both OOC teams

But we have people freaking out and losing their minds. Literally nothing has changed with State football under Arnett. You guys acting like this is Croom like are insane

[Goldendawg]

JMO, but your recent defense of Lemonis after the last two years finishing 14th & 13th in the conference and now a FB staff putting such a poor product on the field to date leaves me baffled. I believed we were going to have at least a 7 win season, but looks like the media and the other SEC West coaches knew something I didn't know when we were picked dead last coming off a 9 win season with the most veteran players in the league returning. Compare our performance to date to every other SEC team Sat except Vandy of course and maybe Ark, (forgot FL and Sunbelt Billy, glad we don't have him still, longterm). We are a poorly prepared and coached mess so far. Fire away.

[DownwardDawg]

Time will tell. That's the only fact right now.

[cheewgumm]

amen

[confucius say]

We have 7 games left to find that out. If we win 5/6 of them to get to 7-5/8-4, you're right.

[Quaoarsking]

Our FPI ranking is currently #45. In the last decade, we've only been worse than that twice. (And only barely - #51 in 2016 and #52 in 2020.) There's still time for it to get better, but also time for it to get worse. We are clearly in worse shape than we all expected to be, and that's a huge red flag.

[Cooterpoot]

LOL

[Coach34]

JMO, but your recent defense of Lemonis after the last two years finishing 14th & 13th in the conference and now a FB staff putting such a poor product on the field to date leaves me baffled. I believed we were going to have at least a 7 win season, but looks like the media and the other SEC West coaches knew something I didn't know when we were picked dead last coming off a 9 win season with the most veteran players in the league returning. Compare our performance to date to every other SEC team Sat except Vandy of course and maybe Ark, (forgot FL and Sunbelt Billy, glad we don't have him still, longterm). We are a poorly prepared and coached mess so far. Fire away.

I 100% believe both will get better.

Already have lots of positive news coming out of Fall baseball

I also believe football gets better but I do worry that our Secondary is so bad that we may not make the 6 wins. But very encouraged with the offense getting better. Just got to let it play out.

[dawgday166]

Not bad points HOWEVER ... Where was this post last year? You could've made the same exact post last year except we played Natty winner GA at home.

Plus ... we don't usually lose to Vandy level SECe teams on the road. And even tho we usually lose to LSU, outside of 2019 I'm pretty sure we haven't taken an ass kicking like this year in the past 8 years ... maybe that's why you stretched that one out to 15. Plus ... Leach is one of the 3 wins.

Carry on your water toting. Tell your homeboys to get this shit turned around.

[Goldendawg]

I 100% believe both will get better.

Already have lots of positive news coming out of Fall baseball

I also believe football gets better but I do worry that our Secondary is so bad that we may not make the 6 wins. But very encouraged with the offense getting better. Just got to let it play out.

Well put. Let's get it around ASAP in both sports. Football quickly.

[CaptainObvious]

If we don?t hang 65 on Western Michigan with 700+ yards, this is a 4-8 or 5-7 team at best.

[Todd4State]

Our FPI ranking is currently #45. In the last decade, we've only been worse than that twice. (And only barely - #51 in 2016 and #52 in 2020.) There's still time for it to get better, but also time for it to get worse. We are clearly in worse shape than we all expected to be, and that's a huge red flag.

Currently we're 87th in both total offense and defense nationally.

We're pretty close to Croom and Sirmon territory right now.

And we've played the 13th and 14th best defenses in the SEC while Alabama has been the best.

It looks dicey and it feels dicey.

[Quaoarsking]

I also believe football gets better but I do worry that our Secondary is so bad that we may not make the 6 wins. But very encouraged with the offense getting better. Just got to let it play out.

Not making it to 6 wins is a total disaster for the program and a sub-Moorhead performance out of Arnett. You can't play the "we're just doing what we always do" card and also casually toss out that we may end our bowl streak after 13 years.

[BuckyIsAB****]

I knew it was coming. The real facts are some of us didnt appreciate what we had with Leach just because he didnt do things our way.

Be careful what you wish for

[basedog]

Currently we're 87th in both total offense and defense nationally.

We're pretty close to Croom and Sirmon territory right now.

And we've played the 13th and 14th best defenses in the SEC while Alabama has been the best.

It looks dicey and it feels dicey.

It's dicey indeed. My question moving forward is how the players respond or don't respond, losing causes misery not to fans but players. Arnett and staff have to motivate and keep the locker room, with new coaches it can be dicey as you stated.

[Todd4State]

It's dicey indeed. My question moving forward is how the players respond or don't respond, losing causes misery not to fans but players. Arnett and staff have to motivate and keep the locker room, with new coaches it can be dicey as you stated.

If some of them were misled by the staff about what we were going to run on offense on top of not winning- none of that helps either.

I love MSU but if I was a player I'm not sure I would put up with that for long myself.

[Santiago]

1. We lost to Bama as we always do
2. We lost to LSU as we normally do with a few wins sprinkled in here and there (3-12 in the last 15)
3. We lost on the road in the SEC to the East team as we usually do (2-7 the last 8 years)
4. We beat both OOC teams

But we have people freaking out and losing their minds. Literally nothing has changed with State football under Arnett. You guys acting like this is Croom like are insane

Our admin and coaching staff is making bad decisions. Arnett is listening to a HS coach on the side lines for crying out loud. The optics of it all is just pathetic. How have you not already assigned nicknames to that whole group , including Peterson by now? You were quick to jump on Coach Leach, a legendary coach, and give stupid nicknames. He earned for more respect than what was given on this board.
Just saying Coach34, I like you man, but we see through this one a mile away.
Arnett lied about the system he would run. So instead of having 4th and 5th year guys running a similar system to what they have known for 3 years that allowed them to equalize against better SEC talents, CZA listened to a HS coach and alumni and went back to 1997. I think they had leather helmets back then.

[Santiago]

I 100% believe both will get better.

Already have lots of positive news coming out of Fall baseball

I also believe football gets better but I do worry that our Secondary is so bad that we may not make the 6 wins. But very encouraged with the offense getting better. Just got to let it play out.

I ran into the grandfather of a freshman baseball player this weekend. He said "it sounds like those kids had a tough time throwing strikes for the past couple of years". LOL. He was a nice guy, and I said yeah that is putting it in a nice summary.

[BrunswickDawg]

I 100% believe both will get better.

Already have lots of positive news coming out of Fall baseball

I also believe football gets better but I do worry that our Secondary is so bad that we may not make the 6 wins. But very encouraged with the offense getting better. Just got to let it play out.

I really don't know what to make of this new "glass half full" Coach34. I feel like Ricky Bobby during his first live interview - "I don't know what to do with my hands..."

[Santiago]

If some of them were misled by the staff about what we were going to run on offense on top of not winning- none of that helps either.

I love MSU but if I was a player I'm not sure I would put up with that for long myself.

Arnett's BS comments to the SEC guys the week of the LSU game saying his defense was on the field too much in the other offense - statistically was pure BS. At that point, I realized just how deep this has gone as to those with voices in his ear.