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    Sunday Morning QB- Lt. Rogers- "You aint got no legs Edition"

    1. Ahhhhhh another Saturday of college football with still balmy hot weather. Got some of my homestyle burgers on the grill with boudin as an appetizer. Bacon. Just a good day to eat and enjoy life. Hope you guys enjoyed yourselves as well from a culinary standpoint.

    2. How about that offense huh? 17 points. The 2nd most scored on Bama this season and the 2nd most on them since 2014. Tied for the 3rd most points vs Bama in the last 22 seasons. We were able to run the ball somewhat effectively at times with our 3 TB's going 20/123- 6 ypc. Add Wright to the mix and its 23/142. That's the kind of production needed for a good offense. Gameplan was pretty good and we got after Bama. Barbay's 17 points last night vs Bama tops Leach's 3 year total of 15 points combined. I see people talking about how this Bama team isnt what they normally are- well Lame Kitten only scored 10 last week on it. Ya'll want to fire him too? Is he over his head?

    3. 2 just isnt the answer and wont be. We arent facing the drop 8 anymore and last night finally showed me what his biggest problem is. When the pocket compresses even a little- he cant see anymore. His height or whatever it is gets to where he cant see anymore and he panics. Everybody under the sun knows he cant extend a play with his legs- as does he- and so he goes into panic mode bouncing around on lineman and such waiting to be brought down. This is why a 4th year QB looks so bad at times. He's getting more pressure than ever and doesnt have the legs to avoid it like seemingly every other SEC team has. Hell, Auburn's guy that transferred from Mich St had a 50 yard run vs Georgia. 2 had the best run of his career last night with the wide open QB draw for 15 yards. Rogers is last in the SEC in rushing by QB's with minus 41 yards on 22 carries.

    4. Word around the campfire is that Parson is nowhere near being ready to play QB in college. So those calls for him will continue to fall on deaf ears. It's not happening. Ya'lls boy Sawyer Robertson and his below 50% completion percentage got replaced yesterday and after that Baylor scored 26 4th Q points to comeback and beat The GusBus. It's time to get Wright some series during a game- not just random plays.

    5. No luck for us starting the game last night. We sack Milroe (one of four for us) and then the punter wedges one on us thats sticks inside the 1. Of course no PI call on Bama the 1st play. But I will say the throw was too underthrown by 2. If he was trying to backshoulder it was still 2 yards too short. Needed that and didnt get it. Then we punt and Bama muffs it but we dont get control of it. Bama then fumbles the snap and the ball is all over the ground and we again fail to cover it. 2 chances at getting a turnover and flipping field position and we dont make it happen. So you just knew what was coming. Milroe scramble with everybody covered for a TD and then a trash throw by 2 for a Pick 6. What a terrible decision. It's covered- throw the damn ball into the ground and let's punt. But noooooooooooo- let's make it 14-0.

    6. Quality drives on 3 and 4 resulting in 10 points and only trailing 17-10. Still in the game. So what happens? Bama drives it for the score and then 2 decides to throw another pick before half. It was behind the WR and just trash. I give Barbay a little blame here also. Run the ball and go to half right there. That's Bama's D- not UPig or Mississippi. Get to half and let's get a plan for the 2nd half KO. But it was just a trash throw turnover.

    7. OL needs to improve more of course but acting like they are terrible is a little overboard. We are 10th in sacks allowed while being the only SEC team with a statue at QB. Auburn, UPig, Bama, and SC are worse in Pass Pro than us. And this offense is sooooooo much more enjoyable to watch than the last 3 years. I'm sorry- I just dont miss the constant dump off passes to the RB in the Airbone. We average 28 PPG right now and Western Michigan and their 125th in Scoring D team comes in Saturday- We should get back above 30.

    8. Injuries hurting on D-line. They played hard but it is what it is. We had 4 sacks and 7 TFL's but just not consistent. It's not the scheme or the DC. Injuries on the DL and poor recruiting in the Secondary is why this defense is not very good. They could run a 4-2-5, a 4-3, or a 3-4 and guess what? They would still be shitty. The way we blitz with a LB on most plays basically is us playing a 4 man front. We are just doing it with a player that doesnt have his hand on the ground.

    9. We should bounce back and roll Saturday. Get some feel goods and a bump in attitude. Then we get an offweek to get ready for UPig. UPig has a ridiculous schedule and has lost 3 in a row- giving up 30 plus points each game (BYU, LSU, A&M). They play Mississippi and Bama then us. That's a helluva run. We have a a real shot to win the next 2 to grab that Mo headed to Auburn. Big couple of weeks for this team and a chance to get better. Excited to see what happens.

    10. We all hate losing but this team can be 4-3 headed to Auburn at the end of this month. As it typically is- October is a big month for State football. The bi-week is perfect timing for this team coming off a win against a bad OOC to get us to 3-3. Auburn is 0-2 in the SEC also with games vs LSU and Mississippi coming at them. Our offenses have been very comparable so far. Wins over UPig and Auburn would be huge heading into November.

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    Again, nobody is buying your Bama hype. This is the worst bama team since Saban's first year.

    Second:

    3rd & 11 at MSST 24
    (2:37 - 1st) Will Rogers run for 12 yds to the MSST 36 for a 1ST down

    2nd & 11 at ALA 39
    (12:33 - 3rd) Will Rogers run for 15 yds to the ALA 24 for a 1ST down



    That's not the issue. The issue is the same as it has been. We are forcing a square peg in a round hole. We are trying to do what we are not tooled to do and the staff needs to be let go at the end of the season.

    We are going to be in a complete rebuild. So, start from the top down.

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    Everything you just said about Rogers was said in 1973 about Ole Miss QB Norris Weese. We State students had a name for Weese:
    <Spastic From the Waste Down>

    I understand that is politically incorrect to call someone that now. But

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post

    2. How about that offense huh? 17 points. The 2nd most scored on Bama this season and the 2nd most on them since 2014. Tied for the 3rd most points vs Bama in the last 22 seasons. We were able to run the ball somewhat effectively at times with our 3 TB's going 20/123- 6 ypc. Add Wright to the mix and its 23/142. That's the kind of production needed for a good offense. Gameplan was pretty good and we got after Bama. Barbay's 17 points last night vs Bama tops Leach's 3 year total of 15 points combined. I see people talking about how this Bama team isnt what they normally are- well Lame Kitten only scored 10 last week on it. Ya'll want to fire him too? Is he over his head?


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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg View Post
    Again, nobody is buying your Bama hype. This is the worst bama team since Saban's first year.

    Second:

    3rd & 11 at MSST 24
    (2:37 - 1st) Will Rogers run for 12 yds to the MSST 36 for a 1ST down

    2nd & 11 at ALA 39
    (12:33 - 3rd) Will Rogers run for 15 yds to the ALA 24 for a 1ST down



    That's not the issue. The issue is the same as it has been. We are forcing a square peg in a round hole. We are trying to do what we are not tooled to do and the staff needs to be let go at the end of the season.

    We are going to be in a complete rebuild. So, start from the top down.
    Not defensively they are not. Their offense is not good but they are just as good defensively, as of today, as they have been the last few years. (Avg 14.2 per game this season, 18.2 per game last year). Second in the league.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg View Post
    Again, nobody is buying your Bama hype. This is the worst bama team since Saban's first year.
    Bama is 17th in the country in Scoring D and allow less than 300 yards per game. They are still very good
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    Quote Originally Posted by Really Clark? View Post
    Not defensively they are not. Their offense is not good but they are just as good defensively, as of today, as they have been the last few years. (Avg 14.2 per game this season, 18.2 per game last year). Second in the league.
    2022:

    Rushing defense ranked 35th
    Passing Defense 6th (in efficiency)
    Scoring Defense 9th.

    2023:

    Rushing D... 36th

    Passing D.. 21st

    Scoring D... 17th

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coach34 View Post
    Bama is 17th in the country in Scoring D and allow less than 300 yards per game. They are still very good
    Down from what they were last year. 2 times worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg View Post
    2022:

    Rushing defense ranked 35th
    Passing Defense 6th (in efficiency)
    Scoring Defense 9th.

    2023:

    Rushing D... 36th

    Passing D.. 21st

    Scoring D... 17th
    17th this year so far but averaging 14.2 points per game vs 9th last year averaging 18.2 points per game...which one is actually doing better? The one allowing less points is the only and correct answer. We will see were they finish at the end of the year.

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    34, IF Arnett doesn't adjust and make changes, he want be at StarkVegas long. No reason whatsoever not playing another QB in the 4th quarter. That is just plain dumb. As far as Parson, to early to really know, most freshman aren't ready for D1 football. But time will tell.
    Brock ain't the answer, neither is Friend. What the heck is Peterson and Cambell(?) so close on sideline to Arnett, kinda weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by basedog View Post
    34, IF Arnett doesn't adjust and make changes, he want be at StarkVegas long. No reason whatsoever not playing another QB in the 4th quarter. That is just plain dumb. As far as Parson, to early to really know, most freshman aren't ready for D1 football. But time will tell.
    Brock ain't the answer, neither is Friend. What the heck is Peterson and Cambell(?) so close on sideline to Arnett, kinda weird.
    Parson is also still not physically ready for game play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackSailsDawg View Post
    Down from what they were last year. 2 times worse.
    Check back on that in December.

    Bama defense is not elite, but they are good. Beat defense we've faced.

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    On point #3, you're just now seeing that? You're being kind.

    Our o line has to literally be perfect every play for him to perform

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    The real question with respect to QB play is why do we refuse to give Wright a half to see what he can do? Or At least a series? Even when the game is out of reach last night, get him some reps in case will gets hurt. I think the reason is because they are worried Wright will play well and then they have a decision to make.

    That nobody has asked arnett this specific question is mind blowing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by confucius say View Post
    Check back on that in December.

    Bama defense is not elite, but they are good. Beat defense we've faced.
    Won't argue this and saw some positives last night. But also playing with 3 and 4 year starters on offense as Sr & Grads at our place last night against a very young Bama team. They've played Bama at least 3 times now. We should score more points.

    ETA: And Bama was missing their starting LB who is the signal caller on their D last night. Missing him most likely helped our rushing totals last night. It certainly didn't hurt those totals.
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    Concerning #3. two plays stand out to me which are indicative of "Happy Feet" and I can't see over the big boys. On a play in the 3 Will drops back we have a receiver streaking down the sidelines no one near Will and he heaves it way before the receiver breaks free and the ball lands 10 yards in front of him/ On another in the 4 where he got sacked he had 2 receivers wide open downfield and apparently he doesn't see them. And Pittman made a great catch on that TD.

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    I mean how can you not just love that thread title!!

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    Peterson and maybe Campbell as well passing on direction from the cigar boys probably.

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    I disagree on the decision to try and push the ball down the field at the end of the half. Just over a minute with 2 timeouts left. You try and push the ball. Will just made a horrible decision.

    What makes me made is Arnett second guessing the decision post game. Say that's what we are going to do and we have to have the mentality that we are going to score. Don't back off it.

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