How long is the leash?

[Todd4State]

He played like crap last Egg Bowl, doesn't have a thing to do with your horrible take about Sat. Or the fact you are trying steer the topic away from that take earlier.

The thing about the Egg Bowl is most of his bad plays were when he was running the ball and fumbled. And yes, of course we all remember his INT that was bad but passing he wasn't bad. 27/39 (69%) with 2 TD's and 1 INT for 239 yards isn't bad at all from a pure passing standpoint. He also made some pretty clutch plays too- pass to Tulu to get the TD before the half and of course he hit RaRa for the other TD. The first TD drive of the game Will was very good too.

[MaroonFlounder]

He played like crap last Egg Bowl, doesn't have a thing to do with your horrible take about Sat. Or the fact you are trying steer the topic away from that take earlier.

Will is the starter, for better or worse. His experience alone is invaluable.

But he grew up a rebel. He doesn?t have the same desire about winning that game as us.

[MagicDawg]

He doesn?t have the same desire about winning that game as us.

I don't buy this speculation. I know he grew up OM but in my experience, State fans who converted from the other school are even MORE anxious to see us beat the rebs.

[SpaceBully]

If we start out like we did against SELA next Saturday against Arizona, how long before you make a QB change? 1 series? 1 quarter? 1 half? Or let it ride? If you do change, do you stick with Wright or do you go to a 2 QB game plan?

Leash is long. Damn long. I expect the same this week. Mostly Rogers and some Wright for wildcatting.

[PMDawg]

Leash is long. Damn long. I expect the same this week. Mostly Rogers and some Wright for wildcatting.

Yep. Love him, hate him, or luke warm about him...it doesn't matter. He's the best we have, and he's the one who's going to start for the entire season, barring injury. Wright will get his spots, but he is not our starting QB, nor should he be. Our coaches aren't complete morons. We go as far as Will takes us this year. Just like the last 3 years. He's not perfect, but he's not garbage either. He's somewhere in between, and more to the upper end than the lower end. His arm strength is not elite, he doesn't move well in the pocket, and sometimes his decisions are questionable. But here's the thing - he doesn't hurt you trying to do too much. His mindset is to minimize mistakes. That's why his completion % is high, interceptions are low, and ypa/ypc are low. It is what it is.

[State82]

Yep. Love him, hate him, or luke warm about him...it doesn't matter. He's the best we have, and he's the one who's going to start for the entire season, barring injury. Wright will get his spots, but he is not our starting QB, nor should he be. Our coaches aren't complete morons. We go as far as Will takes us this year. Just like the last 3 years. He's not perfect, but he's not garbage either. He's somewhere in between, and more to the upper end than the lower end. His arm strength is not elite, he doesn't move well in the pocket, and sometimes his decisions are questionable. But here's the thing - he doesn't hurt you trying to do too much. His mindset is to minimize mistakes. That's why his completion % is high, interceptions are low, and ypa/ypc are low. It is what it is.

Pretty well sums it up.

[Coach34]

Ok. Man free 2 off the edge to the RB side your zone read is dead. Power read? Same deal. Man free backside ILB blitz to the rb side you cant block 3 with 2. Throw it and beat me Mike Wright vs man free. Good luck.

That's fine. I'm going to scat the back out of the backfield and throw a middle screen to one of the slots. I've scored 7 times on that the last 3 seasons. Backside CB caught us Friday to keep us from scoring. Slows that rush down immediately. I use the screen game with the pump-n-go's to offset all that mess. Then you would get a dose of pick routes to get you off my WR's. Lastly, We are going to get wide the way Tenn does and stack WR's. Your force guys are going to play coverage or play the box. Triple option football 2020. Zone dive/QB keep/Flip to Slot

[Commercecomet24]

I think everyone on here with rational, semi intelligence, realizes that for us to have a special year, Will has to be the man. He has to make the throws and can't miss the big plays because our margin for error is so small against the very elite teams and that's just the way it is. I picked Will as team MVP in C34s thread and if he plays like a team mvp we will have a great year, if he doesn't we will be average to good. As always the qb gets to much credit or to much blame and that's just the way it is. If you're gonna be a qb you have to accept the blame when it goes bad and of course you'll get the accolades when it goes well. It's nice to know that we have a capable backup, with sec experience who has game breaking speed and agility, and special packages designed for his talents(and i bet wright would be heck on a go route!!!). So come on Will put the team on your shoulders, play with no fear and aggressiveness and help this team reach it's potential!

[dawgday166]

I think everyone on here with rational, semi intelligence, realizes that for us to have a special year, Will has to be the man. He has to make the throws and can't miss the big plays because our margin for error is so small against the very elite teams and that's just the way it is. I picked Will as team MVP in C34s thread and if he plays like a team mvp we will have a great year, if he doesn't we will be average to good. As always the qb gets to much credit or to much blame and that's just the way it is. If you're gonna be a qb you have to accept the blame when it goes bad and of course you'll get the accolades when it goes well. It's nice to know that we have a capable backup, with sec experience who has game breaking speed and agility, and special packages designed for his talents(and i bet wright would be heck on a go route!!!). So come on Will put the team on your shoulders, play with no fear and aggressiveness and help this team reach it's potential!

Good post CC.

[Goldendawg]

I think everyone on here with rational, semi intelligence, realizes that for us to have a special year, Will has to be the man. He has to make the throws and can't miss the big plays because our margin for error is so small against the very elite teams and that's just the way it is. I picked Will as team MVP in C34s thread and if he plays like a team mvp we will have a great year, if he doesn't we will be average to good. As always the qb gets to much credit or to much blame and that's just the way it is. If you're gonna be a qb you have to accept the blame when it goes bad and of course you'll get the accolades when it goes well. It's nice to know that we have a capable backup, with sec experience who has game breaking speed and agility, and special packages designed for his talents(and i bet wright would be heck on a go route!!!). So come on Will put the team on your shoulders, play with no fear and aggressiveness and help this team reach it's potential!

This, 100%. Hail State!

[Gutter Cobreh]

Ok. Man free 2 off the edge to the RB side your zone read is dead. Power read? Same deal. Man free backside ILB blitz to the rb side you cant block 3 with 2. Throw it and beat me Mike Wright vs man free. Good luck.

That's fine. I'm going to scat the back out of the backfield and throw a middle screen to one of the slots. I've scored 7 times on that the last 3 seasons. Backside CB caught us Friday to keep us from scoring. Slows that rush down immediately. I use the screen game with the pump-n-go's to offset all that mess. Then you would get a dose of pick routes to get you off my WR's. Lastly, We are going to get wide the way Tenn does and stack WR's. Your force guys are going to play coverage or play the box. Triple option football 2020. Zone dive/QB keep/Flip to Slot

I want more of this banter!!! Great stuff from you two!!!

[Commercecomet24]

I want more of this banter!!! Great stuff from you two!!!

100% agree. Excellent inside football stuff. We need more of this.

[Coach34]

100% agree. Excellent inside football stuff. We need more of this.

Absolutely. I'm hamstrung with where I'm at currently. I spend more time teaching left and right than actual techniques or plays- so the offense doesnt look like I want it to. But we are able to run a few things decently. Just have to be simplistic and get good at a few things. But imma run my screens yo. The kids are learning what it takes to play hard and come to practice everyday. Not just show up on Friday

https://twitter.com/d1Marshall_/stat...477624204?s=20

Play 2 in the clip is the middle screen I referenced. We have work to do but we are getting better. We are a 2A playing a 5A in the clips. Our schedule is ridiculous. But I'll take a win over a bad 5A when we are 2A anytime

[Commercecomet24]

Absolutely. I'm hamstrung with where I'm at currently. I spend more time teaching left and right than actual techniques or plays- so the offense doesnt look like I want it to. But we are able to run a few things decently. Just have to be simplistic and get good at a few things. But imma run my screens yo. The kids are learning what it takes to play hard and come to practice everyday. Not just show up on Friday

https://twitter.com/d1Marshall_/stat...477624204?s=20

Play 2 in the clip is the middle screen I referenced. We have work to do but we are getting better. We are a 2A playing a 5A in the clips. Our schedule is ridiculous. But I'll take a win over a bad 5A when we are 2A anytime

Great stuff! The hardest thing with this generation is getting them to understand you have to bring it everyday including practice.

That middle screen was a thing of beauty. That cat has some nice acceleration. Looks like he may be a beast in the open field. Anytime a 2A can beat a 5A is a thing to appreciate!

[tcdog70]

Will is the starter, for better or worse. His experience alone is invaluable.

But he grew up a rebel. He doesn?t have the same desire about winning that game as us.

come on--both his mother's parents are State Grads--Will is true maroon.

[BuckyIsAB****]

That's fine. I'm going to scat the back out of the backfield and throw a middle screen to one of the slots. I've scored 7 times on that the last 3 seasons. Backside CB caught us Friday to keep us from scoring. Slows that rush down immediately. I use the screen game with the pump-n-go's to offset all that mess. Then you would get a dose of pick routes to get you off my WR's. Lastly, We are going to get wide the way Tenn does and stack WR's. Your force guys are going to play coverage or play the box. Triple option football 2020. Zone dive/QB keep/Flip to Slot

You are widening those guys out for nothing. No Coach worth his salt is going to widen his hang players out if the Qb cant throw it out there. Screen may work once or twice but DL will see it after that. Point is, and you know this, it is extremely hard to score if you cant throw it at all

[BuckyIsAB****]

Will is the starter, for better or worse. His experience alone is invaluable.

But he grew up a rebel. He doesn?t have the same desire about winning that game as us.

Wrong. Like wronger than wrong. He played the worst game of his career vs them because he wanted to beat them so badly. Dont take my word for it go watch the pre game video state put out after the ETSU game

[HancockCountyDog]

I think everyone on here with rational, semi intelligence, realizes that for us to have a special year, Will has to be the man. He has to make the throws and can't miss the big plays because our margin for error is so small against the very elite teams and that's just the way it is. I picked Will as team MVP in C34s thread and if he plays like a team mvp we will have a great year, if he doesn't we will be average to good. As always the qb gets to much credit or to much blame and that's just the way it is. If you're gonna be a qb you have to accept the blame when it goes bad and of course you'll get the accolades when it goes well. It's nice to know that we have a capable backup, with sec experience who has game breaking speed and agility, and special packages designed for his talents(and i bet wright would be heck on a go route!!!). So come on Will put the team on your shoulders, play with no fear and aggressiveness and help this team reach it's potential!

I purposefully ignored this thread based on the title, because I just assumed it was about Will, and it looks like I made the right call. This post sums up the current situation.

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

I said post game that if will didn't start playing better, we'd be unable to move the ball vs LSU and Wright would come in and take over. I stand by that.

That is not be saying Will is trash, just that he played bad on Saturday and it'll give us no shot in SEC play. It's also not me saying Will can't play better, there have been excellent games by him and I hope he gives us 2021 Auburn every game. It is also not saying Wright is amazing or the next Heisman winner. He's Fitzgerald. But Fitzgerald would have won 10 here if Dan had stayed in '18.

At the end of the day the coaches will not let the offense fail if the backup can succeed. If will succeeds, great! If Will fails but Wright succeeds, good! If both fail, the season is lost. Some of y'all are pulling for players and not the jersey they're wearing. Way too much personal passion when what matters is winning.

The ball is in Wills court- if he wants to win and stay the starter, he's got to make better throws than he did Saturday. End of story. Nobody knows what he'll do we have to watch and see because he's capable of going wither way

[the_real_MSU_is_us]

You are widening those guys out for nothing. No Coach worth his salt is going to widen his hang players out if the Qb cant throw it out there. Screen may work once or twice but DL will see it after that. Point is, and you know this, it is extremely hard to score if you cant throw it at all

lol C34 is going 4 wide every play of that game and you want to lecture him on the need to throw the ball?

Where did he say you don't need to throw the ball to win? And to flip it around, you need to run the ball to win too, which is why ever Air Raid disciple has been forced to add run concepts and be more balanced. Leach was the last of his kind and even he added more run stuff to combat SEC defenses and recruited Parson.

Will will throw it 67%, won't turn the ball over, but will have a low yards per attempt and no ability to gain yards on broken plays, avoid pressure, or make the defense account for him.

Wright will throw for a higher yards per attempt, be able to make something out of broken plays, forces the defense to account for him, but only throws it 57% and will kill some drives by by missing wide open men due to inconsistency. He will turn it over more than Will but he's not a TO machine either. He's Fitz. But we would have won 10 games with Fitz in '18 if we had a coach that understood his team.

I'm sorry but the situation is clearly not black and white. Both have strengths and weaknesses. If Will plays bad he'll eventually get benched. If he plays good Wright will stay the change of pace guy. End of story.