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    Im asking this for clarification. IF coaches are completely responsible for players not performing, then why in the world is Wes Johnson treated like a God? His staff is trash. And it wasn't just this weekend. He's riding the coattail of skenes. Nobody can screw that guy up. Might be the best guy I've ever seen! EVER. Not saying he's bad, but he has 500k in that pitching staff alone in nil transfers and only one is worth a damn. So either, he can't evaluate or can't coach..... or needs a money manager. And continues to lead the world in arm injuries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    Im asking this for clarification. IF coaches are completely responsible for players not performing, then why in the world is Wes Johnson treated like a God? His staff is trash. And it wasn't just this weekend. He's riding the coattail if skenes. Nobody can screws that guy up. Might be the best guy I've ever seen! EVER. Not saying he's bad, but he has 500k in that pitching staff alone in nil transfers and only one is worth a damn. So either, he can't evaluate or can't coach..... or needs a money manager. And continues to lead the world in arm injuries.
    he's had a lot of injuries, go figure and I think like 4-5 out with TJ surgery. it is a recurring pattern with WJ.

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    It's his first season there. Let's check back in a couple years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redstickdawg View Post
    he's had a lot of injuries, go figure and I think like 4-5 out with TJ surgery. it is a recurring pattern with WJ.
    I get that. But he got thatcher Hurd and Christian little out of the portal. Both have been awful. If he's all he's cracked up to be and coaches fix EVERYTHING, shouldn't MM be able to fix it??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    Im asking this for clarification. IF coaches are completely responsible for players not performing, then why in the world is Wes Johnson treated like a God? His staff is trash. And it wasn't just this weekend. He's riding the coattail of skenes. Nobody can screw that guy up. Might be the best guy I've ever seen! EVER. Not saying he's bad, but he has 500k in that pitching staff alone in nil transfers and only one is worth a damn. So either, he can't evaluate or can't coach..... or needs a money manager. And continues to lead the world in arm injuries.
    Maybe the most overrated coach in college baseball. And Skenes was the real deal before he got to BR and Wes may still screw him up. Heck they used chubs again today after he threw nearly 50 pitches yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    It's his first season there. Let's check back in a couple years.
    Cool, let's do that. He has a big budget. Huge budget. Can't miss right?
    Most nil money at a top 5 job. He should never ever have a bad staff form this time going forward if what this board thinks is correct??? He's overrated period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    It's his first season there. Let's check back in a couple years.
    Cooter it's the portal era and they are the biggest spenders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redstickdawg View Post
    he's had a lot of injuries, go figure and I think like 4-5 out with TJ surgery. it is a recurring pattern with WJ.
    Shocker

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    Rules for thee but not for me I see.

    Their pitching staff coming into 2023 was higher rated that ours. Their staff is trash.
    Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cooterpoot View Post
    It's his first season there. Let's check back in a couple years.
    Won't be any healthy arms left on his staff by then.

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    Skenes, if not injured will be in an mlb uniform in two years. Great win for MSU. Now they need to do it again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord McBuckethead View Post
    Skenes, if not injured will be in an mlb uniform in two years. Great win for MSU. Now they need to do it again.
    Yes. I saw a thread on another board comparing him to the best ever. Heck, he's the best I've ever seen. Ever. Ever. In college that is. What happens from here we shall see

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    Stephen Strasburg, part deaux. . . . . .Not sure if he's even in the game anymore. . . . .
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    LSU ranks in sec...
    Era - 6th
    Opposing BA - 2nd
    K - 2nd
    Bb - 4th
    Hits allowed - 2nd

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    Quote Originally Posted by msstate7 View Post
    LSU ranks in sec...
    Era - 6th
    Opposing BA - 2nd
    K - 2nd
    Bb - 4th
    Hits allowed - 2nd
    I get you, but they have the BEST pitcher in baseball and his 6-7 innings a Friday of shutdown baseball alone makes their ERA probably .6 better than if you replace him woth a normal Friday guy, and with all the injuries that ERA going forward is going to be as bad as ours, as we saw this weekend.

    Wes Johnson doesn't get credit for developing Skenes. If any blame for injuries can fall on a coach then he should get it because they've had a lot. They've spent a LOT on NIL deals and they picked poorly from the Portal (Skenes excluded).

    We can say "injuries are random" but State, Arky, and now LSU fans will tell you injuries spike like crazy under Wes.

    Ultimately his job is to recruit good pitchers, develop guys, and have a good staff. At this point in time, they have- 1 great player the boosters bought, 1 ok starter behind him, and dogshit past that. That's on Wes

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    Quote Originally Posted by the_real_MSU_is_us View Post
    I get you, but they have the BEST pitcher in baseball and his 6-7 innings a Friday of shutdown baseball alone makes their ERA probably .6 better than if you replace him woth a normal Friday guy, and with all the injuries that ERA going forward is going to be as bad as ours, as we saw this weekend.

    Wes Johnson doesn't get credit for developing Skenes. If any blame for injuries can fall on a coach then he should get it because they've had a lot. They've spent a LOT on NIL deals and they picked poorly from the Portal (Skenes excluded).

    We can say "injuries are random" but State, Arky, and now LSU fans will tell you injuries spike like crazy under Wes.

    Ultimately his job is to recruit good pitchers, develop guys, and have a good staff. At this point in time, they have- 1 great player the boosters bought, 1 ok starter behind him, and dogshit past that. That's on Wes
    He's pitched 79.2 ip this season of their 429.1 (19%). Skenes is immensely better than last season. Does Johnson not get credit for that?

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