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    If state wins today and two next weekend, does your opinion change about Lem?

    If they got to the SEC Tournament, I would go from being fired to being on the fence.

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    No. My opinion has been the same since last year. He should have been fired at the end of last year and should be fired this year. I am of the opinion though that he probably will not be.

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    No but be prepared for him continuing on another year.

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    Get him a new bucket.

    Lem is staying.

    I can’t say that I’m surprised. Definitely not excited.

    The team might be better, but the new benchmark will be making Hoover and praying for an at-large 2 or 3-seed

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    Quote Originally Posted by StarkVegasSteve View Post
    No. My opinion has been the same since last year. He should have been fired at the end of last year and should be fired this year. I am of the opinion though that he probably will not be.
    At the end of last year?? Wow. I get the this year. But last year is pretty tough. 2 out 3 trips to the cws and a ship and lost season and he gone. Just wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    At the end of last year?? Wow. I get the this year. But last year is pretty tough. 2 out 3 trips to the cws and a ship and lost season and he gone. Just wow.
    And losing almost every good pitcher on the staff

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    Gotta go. Keeping this staff is wasting time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Lambert View Post
    If they got to the SEC Tournament, I would go from being fired to being on the fence.
    Big IF!

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    At no time EVER in College Athletics should there Not be a Performance Clause in a Coach?s Contract.

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    My opinion of Lem wouldn't change. It would just show me that he is willing to change. It would tell me to give him a chance to improve.

    We forget that this is an evolving game and these coaches are young still and are gonna make some mistakes. That's why I was so disappointed mid season when it became obvious that no changes were being made and Lem hadn't improved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainObvious View Post
    At no time EVER in College Athletics should there Not be a Performance Clause in a Coach?s Contract.
    Agreed. And if a coach doesn't have the confidence to sign it, don't hire him. They could sit at home and honestly do very little at this point.

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    Not in the least. Two weekends at the back end do not come close to undoing two straight years of a clown show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Homedawg View Post
    At the end of last year?? Wow. I get the this year. But last year is pretty tough. 2 out 3 trips to the cws and a ship and lost season and he gone. Just wow.
    You could see it then.

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    It would tell me the players haven't given up on him. What that means I'm not sure. I like the guy. I wish he would turn it around.

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    I?ll go so far as to say if State Sweeps the Milkmen next weekend, then I would move from 0% to keep him to 10% to keep him only if that sweep got us to Hoover. Hoover is the only way State should keep Lem. If Missouri eliminates us before we get to Sunday, he needs to go even if we 10 run rule all 3 games The Men In White!

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    He will stay after this weekend. We basically won but still lost. We will struggle to find a pitching coach who wants to Thelma and Louise with Lemonis in his last trip around the sun here.

    Sad thing is, we wont tonight in spite of the terrible coaching
    -Cheese left a minimum of 3 runs and held them at 3rd. The Amani was a mistake but he had other ops and failed.
    -Why go to KC with an 11.00 era there when Nixon with a 1.65 era is warm? Why wait until KC walks batters to bring in our best arm to shut them down?
    -DJ and a few others have a stomach bug. But why go to Conner when Chance is available? Even after making the decision when he comes up with the go-ahead run, why not go to Chance batting .330 and your best contact hitter vs Conner at .225.

    These guys won that game in spite of terrible coaching and in doing so, we get stuck with him again for another year.

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    It's really not about Hoover. It's significantly more about the roster. If we lose Lemo and as a result we would lose much of our roster, then maybe he needs to stay. Thinking the less damaging move could be to keep him. Would be very hard to swallow this however given our dismal performance both years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwardDrayton View Post
    It's really not about Hoover. It's significantly more about the roster. If we lose Lemo and as a result we would lose much of our roster as a result, then maybe he needs to stay. Thinking the less damaging move could be to keep him. Would be very hard to swallow this however given our dismal performance both years.
    The roster should play 0% into the decision. The only question that needs answering is whether Lemonis is the right guy to lead our program. That's it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDawg View Post
    The roster should play 0% into the decision. The only question that needs answering is whether Lemonis is the right guy to lead our program. That's it.
    Do we believe we have talented players and more coming in. Answer: yes.
    Do we believe if Lemo is fired we will lose more than a few. Answer: those here in the know say yes.
    Could we quickly replace those who leave with folks of the same caliber. Answer: Probably not.

    It is indeed a consideration.

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