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Originally Posted by
No BS Dawg
If there was any swinging, I?m sure they were all misses. No sarcastrics on purpose.
Well now to be fair, they would have had to take the first two down the middle before swinging wildly at air.
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Butch only wins and his players show a gritty, dirtbag persona that is fun to watch. Other than that, he just wins and goes to Omaha fairly regular.
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Originally Posted by
sandjunky
Sorry don?t want Butch
Who do you want that would come take over this cluster f??
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Originally Posted by
CaptainObvious
Who do you want that would come take over this cluster f??
If our fans will support NIL, any competent coach will have us in the hosting conversation next year. The days of long rebuilds are over.
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Originally Posted by
Leroy Jenkins
I don't think he would be on anyone's list if he hadn't coached here before. How many people wanting Butch would know his name had he not been on staff here? He would be a solid 3rd or 4th option.
He would be known as much as anyone knows other head coaches names.
I haven't done the research to know the exact number, but I would guess there are VERY few active coaches at programs clearly below ours that have taken their team to the CWS twice. Auburn is an extremely difficult job.
Who else has that on their resume... Other than Bianco?
Not that he's necessarily the best choice, but we could do FAR worse and likely will not hire someone as accomplished as Butch.
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Butch is in Y7 at Auburn- missed the tourney his 1st season and in 2021. Will likely make the tourney for 5th time this year with 2 CWS appearances and a Super.
We almost assuredly will not hire someone with that kind of a resume other than him. He is 52 tho and I would prefer someone a little younger
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Butch is in Y7 at Auburn- missed the tourney his 1st season and in 2021. Will likely make the tourney for 5th time this year with 2 CWS appearances and a Super.
We almost assuredly will not hire someone with that kind of a resume other than him. He is 52 tho and I would prefer someone a little younger
Yeah people acting like Butch wouldn't be a good hire are mistaken. The dude is putting up results at Auburn, which is one of the worst jobs in the SEC.
He wouldn't be my first call, but he's on the list
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Originally Posted by
KOdawg1
Yeah people acting like Butch wouldn't be a good hire are mistaken. The dude is putting up results at Auburn, which is one of the worst jobs in the SEC.
He wouldn't be my first call, but he's on the list
I think Butch would be good but he's not the best hire.
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Butch is in Y7 at Auburn- missed the tourney his 1st season and in 2021. Will likely make the tourney for 5th time this year with 2 CWS appearances and a Super.
We almost assuredly will not hire someone with that kind of a resume other than him. He is 52 tho and I would prefer someone a little younger
Seriously I don't know what's wrong with people. They come across as Texas fans in the early 2010s thinking they could hire Saban from Bama.
We have great fans, great facilities, and a good history. We have mediocre NIL. Our program needs to be built back up. We are a good landing spot, but not so good as to distinguish ourselves from a Vandy, A&M, etc and lure their coach away. That leaves mid majors, assistants, and Butch as the best options.
Butch is making Omaha 1 out of every 3 years at a school that has no fan support, worse facilities, no tradition, and I can't imagine their boosters are supporting Baseball NIL more than us. He SHOULD be able to have more success here. But even a 50% Supers or Omaha rate of success is great, and that's what he's doing there.
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Originally Posted by
Quaoarsking
If our fans will support NIL, any competent coach will have us in the hosting conversation next year. The days of long rebuilds are over.
Our fans aren't supporting it. Even diehards on here won't. We have the worst nil fanbase in the league.
Also, Butch has never won a game in Omaha, has never had more than 16 sec wins, and is about to finish .500 or worse in sec for 5th time in 7 years with a bunch of 4th and 5th year guys.
But maybe that's the best we could do given where we are now and our lack of nil
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Is there anyway to know our total NIL and the breakdown per sport?
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Originally Posted by
Goldendawg
Is there anyway to know our total NIL and the breakdown per sport?
No school would be stupid enough to release that to anyone not donating 7 figures minimum. You do not let that get out to the general public and have it be used against them in recruiting.
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Well if we are going by resumes (re Butch) the guy we have now won a national championship 2 years ago. And Verne Troyer up the road won one last year, would any of you want him?
Everyone wants to be a beast...until its time to do what beasts do.
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Some of you have gotten so singularly focused on one candidate, Haier, that you cannot open yourself up to other possibilities. It is very likely Haier would prefer to stay at Campbell over come here. I do not think some of you realize the shit we are about to eat in the coaching world for firing a coach 2 years removed from a national championship. This is not football where schools are raking in 100 mil plus each and every year.
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Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Some of you have gotten so singularly focused on one candidate, Haier, that you cannot open yourself up to other possibilities. It is very likely Haier would prefer to stay at Campbell over come here. I do not think some of you realize the shit we are about to eat in the coaching world for firing a coach 2 years removed from a national championship. This is not football where schools are raking in 100 mil plus each and every year.
You mean eating shit for firing a coach who finished last in the conference 2 years in a row.... despite having more resources than his competition? I don't think so.
Everyone wants to be a beast...until its time to do what beasts do.
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Originally Posted by
Leroy Jenkins
You mean eating shit for firing a coach who finished last in the conference 2 years in a row.... despite having more resources than his competition? I don't think so.
Baseball is different than football. Thats why you have so many coaches with long careers at one school. Firing Lemon 2 years after a Natty is going to eliminate alot of candidates
Doesnt mean we cant hire a good coach- but it will turn off alot of guys.
Walk like the King or walk like you don't care who the King is
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Originally Posted by
Coach34
Baseball is different than football. Thats why you have so many coaches with long careers at one school. Firing Lemon 2 years after a Natty is going to eliminate alot of candidates
Doesnt mean we cant hire a good coach- but it will turn off alot of guys.
I have no doubt he'll be back. The point is, with this mammoth collapse, he shouldn't be.
W-L record aside, there are just too many other issues.
Last edited by Leroy Jenkins; 05-08-2023 at 06:54 PM.
Everyone wants to be a beast...until its time to do what beasts do.
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Originally Posted by
StarkVegasSteve
Some of you have gotten so singularly focused on one candidate, Haier, that you cannot open yourself up to other possibilities. It is very likely Haier would prefer to stay at Campbell over come here. I do not think some of you realize the shit we are about to eat in the coaching world for firing a coach 2 years removed from a national championship. This is not football where schools are raking in 100 mil plus each and every year.
Disagree about coaching world turning a nose
If we had been competitive, yes, I would agree
Most reasonable coaches would look at this and say - Lemonis shit the bed given where he started
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Butch would be option 4 or 5 for me.
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